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Rd 5, Pick #143: S Jonathan Meeks - Clemson


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The Bills scout is saying that the other Clemson safety was very slow, and so they made Meeks play 15 yards back, which was why he didnt put up the stats other guys did. But when he was closer in he would make plays. They like him.

 

I'm lukewarm on him but I do know Pettine likes safeties.

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Last year, our 5th round pick was CUT before the season.

 

Zebrie Sanders? He went on IR, wasn't cut.

 

Please, please, SDS...16 pages is NOT enough! (see the post above this as well....)

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The Bills scout is saying that the other Clemson safety was very slow, and so they made Meeks play 15 yards back, which was why he didnt put up the stats other guys did. But when he was closer in he would make plays. They like him.

 

I'm lukewarm on him but I do know Pettine likes safeties.

 

Id guess being close to the Clemson staff helps that assessment.

 

 

 

and look at the results, I'm sick and tired of losing and this just continues the trend, until we get a GM with a clue we are screwed.

 

Then don't watch? No ones forcing you to come here and post about how you've never heard of guys.

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  1. Buffalo Bills@buffalobills 9m
    Jonathan Meeks: "I'm big fast, strong, and I can hit. This defense will allow me to do that" #BillsDraft
     
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    Meeks on his visit with #Bills DC Mike Pettine: "I just fell in love with the defense"
     
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    #Bills Meeks on his visit with #Bills: "It's a great organization to be a part of" #BillsDraft
     
    Buffalo Bills@buffalobills 12m
    #Bills S Jonathan Meeks on @BumpNrunGilm0re: "He's one of my really good friends ... we grew up playing against each other."

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This is the only highlight clip for the guy. He was just in the right place on an overthrown ball. Nice speed, though.

so just about how Byrd was in the "right place" on almost all of his interceptions his rookie season?

 

Just sayin...

 

 

Also, I personally don't believe in "right place at the right time" when it comes to football. Either you have instincts or you don't. Why was he in the "right place"? It was no where near anyone on that play. So either he was psychic and knew where the ball was going to be, or he was just lucky enough to be bad and out of the play by about 10-15 yards. Either one, I'm fine with. But there is no "right place" here.

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worst pick of an unbelievably great draft. probably could have gotten this guy with their last pick or as an UDFA.

many other rated players available.

 

I would not be so sure about that...And I'm not a huge fan of the way Meeks played in College at times...I was able to see him a lot and knew of him even when he was in HS...The thing is, Meeks has excellent size/speed, and there were some extenuating circumstances that effected his play at Clemson...And he should be a real good Special Teams contributor ..If you're looking at pure athletic numbers...He's just about the prototype Safety...And those guys don't usually last too long...I think based on that, the 5th Round is fine for him...I would have preferred the Bills Draft a pure CB here...But I understand the pick...Not crazy about it, but I get it... B-)

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Id guess being close to the Clemson staff helps that assessment.

 

 

 

Them don't watch? No ones forcing you to come here and post about how you've never heard of guys.

Yep the scout says he and Nix have known the Clemson staff for 30 years and they couldn't say enough good things about the kid. I'm wary of that kind of stuff holding too much weight though. I always think these coaches will sugarcoat their own players for a whole host of reasons.

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I would not be so sure about that...And I'm not a huge fan of the way Meeks played in College at times...I was able to see him a lot and knew of him even when he was in HS...The thing is, Meeks has excellent size/speed, and there were some extenuating circumstances that effected his play at Clemson...And he should be a real good Special Teams contributor ..If you're looking at pure athletic numbers...He's just about the prototype Safety...And those guys don't usually last too long...I think based on that, the 5th Round is fine for him...I would have preferred the Bills Draft a pure CB here...But I understand the pick...Not crazy about it, but I get it... B-)

 

Care to share more on the circumstances?

 

 

Yep the scout says he and Nix have known the Clemson staff for 30 years and they couldn't say enough good things about the kid. I'm wary of that kind of stuff holding too much weight though. I always think these coaches will sugarcoat their own players for a whole host of reasons.

 

For sure - I'm not saying its always good but... I'm not surprised for a late rounder to be a guy like that. After 30 years you hope they know them enough to know bs though.

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so just about how Byrd was in the "right place" on almost all of his interceptions his rookie season?

 

Just sayin...

 

 

Also, I personally don't believe in "right place at the right time" when it comes to football. Either you have instincts or you don't. Why was he in the "right place"? It was no where near anyone on that play. So either he was psychic and knew where the ball was going to be, or he was just lucky enough to be bad and out of the play by about 10-15 yards. Either one, I'm fine with. But there is no "right place" here.

 

I get what you're saying - he had the instinct to be in the direction of the play, but the ball was still overthrown. My point is that it's not a tremendous highlight or anything, and that's all we get when we search for him. Not knocking the guy or anything, just making an observation.

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Care to share more on the circumstances?

 

Well...The Bills Scout just touched on it a bit...He was asked to play as the last line of Defense due to his athleticism compared to the other Clemson safeties (the others were too slow) which took him out of showing a lot of his abilities...I don't think he's a center-field-type of Safety like Byrd at all...I don't think he's instinctive enough for that role...And that's pretty much what Clemson needed him to do because they had no one else to do it...I do think Pettine sees a role for him that is very different from what he did at Clemson... B-)

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