Like A Mofo Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 We don't have a QB. While its the FOs fault we don't have one, it's not their fault we couldn't secure Davis. RG3 or tjack? No brainer Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 So, the front office is a failure for not overpaying? No, the front office is a failure for not doing ANYTHING to an already weak roster. To an already weak franchise for long over 10 years. This organization is indefensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 You mean the front office that liked the guy so much they flew to D.C. en masse to wine and dine him? That's the problem. Hey, Morton's is a great steakhouse! They got a good meal and probably spent less than a $1,000 to talk to the guy. Worth the effort and it also shows they're not in panic mode by simply throwing a wad of cash at him. I get the sense the FO and HC know this is a rebuilding year, and while nice to have, Davis probably wouldn't have had much impact on the W-L record in 2013. If he only wanted a 1-year prove contract, then both sides probably made a rational decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) No, the front office is a failure for not doing ANYTHING to an already weak roster. To an already weak franchise for long over 10 years. This organization is indefensible. That doesn't seem to stop the defenders around here... If he only wanted a 1-year prove contract, then both sides probably made a rational decision. I agree with that. I get the sense the FO and HC know this is a rebuilding year, and while nice to have, Davis probably wouldn't have had much impact on the W-L record in 2013. I get the sense that the FO knows it's a rebuilding year and is going to apply the unused cap space to the bottom line unless they can get guys at bargain-basement prices. Edited March 29, 2013 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) We don't have a QB. While its the FOs fault we don't have one, it's not their fault we couldn't secure Davis. RG3 or tjack? No brainer You're fooling yourself. If the Bills had offered enough, he would have played under mickey mouse at quarterback Edited March 29, 2013 by first_and_ten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Good we don't need another has been! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Davis is staying home even though the Bills' offer was reportedly "a little better," and for two years. Recovering from a torn Achilles' tendon, Davis has wisely saddled up for a one-year deal, which gives him the opportunity to prove he's healthy and cash in with a bigger contract next offseason. Davis' role in the Redskins' Robert Griffin III-driven offense was never quite clear before he went down last season, but he still has TE1 upside. If healthy, he could enter 2013 as the Redskins' No. 2 option in the passing game. Davis is tentatively expected to be ready for training camp. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4716/fred-davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Another failure by this front office. Can't lure free agents with no QB and no real plan. I'll give them credit for at least trying, but unless they over pay, I don't see them landing any significant free agents. Nix has been an absolute failure throughout his Bills tenure and it starts with the Gailey hire. We are a laughingstock again and it is getting very old. Add Regier as a total failure also. What has he done to improve this team.as we sit near the bottom of the standings with an owner that will freely spend for a winner. Why is Regier and Nix still employed? Can I answer this question and have you respond to me? Last 3 trades made by Regier: Kassian for Hodgson Gaustad for a 1st rounder Roy for Ott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Davis is staying home even though the Bills' offer was reportedly "a little better," and for two years. Recovering from a torn Achilles' tendon, Davis has wisely saddled up for a one-year deal, which gives him the opportunity to prove he's healthy and cash in with a bigger contract next offseason. Davis' role in the Redskins' Robert Griffin III-driven offense was never quite clear before he went down last season, but he still has TE1 upside. If healthy, he could enter 2013 as the Redskins' No. 2 option in the passing game. Davis is tentatively expected to be ready for training camp. http://www.rotoworld...4716/fred-davis He won't be ready until mid-season. And even then, the odds are long that he'll be what he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 A lot of players are signing one year deals this offseason. If you were a player would you sign with a team in a complete rebuilding mode or a team that made the playoffs last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 He won't be ready until mid-season. And even then, the odds are long that he'll be what he was. That may or may not be true, but what are you basing that on? The report, on the day of his surgery, was that the recovery time was six months, not one year like serious ruptures. Davis himself, and his agent, are betting a million dollars or so on the fact he is going to be fully healthy to play a whole season. He's reported to be ready for training camp, and not one of those cases where they're holding him back to get him ready for week one of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Great. Now lets move on. Try to trade out of the 8th spot and draft Eifert. Fill in some holes in the draft. Wait until the 4th round for a QB, such as Bray, Scott, or Jones and go all in for a franchise signal caller next year. This strategy increases your chances at landing your quarterback of the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 That may or may not be true, but what are you basing that on? The report, on the day of his surgery, was that the recovery time was six months, not one year like serious ruptures. Davis himself, and his agent, are betting a million dollars or so on the fact he is going to be fully healthy to play a whole season. He's reported to be ready for training camp, and not one of those cases where they're holding him back to get him ready for week one of the season. I'm basing it on typical recovery times from Achilles surgery and the chances of successful return from Achilles surgery. Anyone can claim anything they like, especially when money is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I'm basing it on typical recovery times from Achilles surgery and the chances of successful return from Achilles surgery. Anyone can claim anything they like, especially when money is involved. True. I'll have to look for the link, but I based it on a Washington Post report the day of the surgery, performed by the same doctor that did Suggs injury, which said the recovery time was six months from that particular surgery, and that Suggs came back in five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 True. I'll have to look for the link, but I based it on a Washington Post report the day of the surgery, performed by the same doctor that did Suggs injury, which said the recovery time was six months from that particular surgery, and that Suggs came back in five. Suggs had a partial tear, which is a whole different animal. AFAIK, Davis' was a full tear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I'm surprised it's just a 1 year deal. I guess Davis is really optimistic about his recovery process and thinks he'll have a nice year this year. If I'm a team, and my doctors say he'll play this year but not really be himself, I want that 1-year deal because I might get him really cheap next year, and I have no risk in case he's never himself again. As for us not getting him, I'm kinda disappointed, but not really about Davis specifically. He's a good player when healthy, but also a major knucklehead, and there's no guarantee he's able to play this year. Having 2 decent TEs who are injured isn't the same as having 1 who is healthy. I'm more disappointed that the Bills continue to not do anything to improve the 2013 team. Was the plan really to sign Manny Lawson, then sit back and pop the bubbly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) I'm basing it on typical recovery times from Achilles surgery and the chances of successful return from Achilles surgery. Anyone can claim anything they like, especially when money is involved. tell me more about the actual surgery or injury he had. Suggs had a partial tear, which is a whole different animal. AFAIK, Davis' was a full tear. ah, fair enough. based on the report it sounded partial, but im not 100%. thats why i think its a bit foolish for us to project, when the range is so wide, and our info so slim... but ill do it anyway. as kelly points out, if he were worried about next season, he wouldve wanted a two year deal with us. it would have been a major advantage to him to have a healthy year going into free agency. he thinks THIS year is that healthy year though. he has more info than any of us, so.... i think thats the best we can go with until someone finds otherwise. Edited March 29, 2013 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 yeah he wanted to resign since the beginning he made that pretty clear. he only went to visit other teams to put pressure on the skins. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 Another failure by this front office. Can't lure free agents with no QB and no real plan. I'll give them credit for at least trying, but unless they over pay, I don't see them landing any significant free agents. Nix has been an absolute failure throughout his Bills tenure and it starts with the Gailey hire. We are a laughingstock again and it is getting very old. Add Regier as a total failure also. What has he done to improve this team.as we sit near the bottom of the standings with an owner that will freely spend for a winner. Why is Regier and Nix still employed? Another failure by this front office. Can't lure free agents with no QB and no real plan. I'll give them credit for at least trying, but unless they over pay, I don't see them landing any significant free agents. Nix has been an absolute failure throughout his Bills tenure and it starts with the Gailey hire. We are a laughingstock again and it is getting very old. Add Regier as a total failure also. What has he done to improve this team.as we sit near the bottom of the standings with an owner that will freely spend for a winner. Why is Regier and Nix still employed? I disagree I think this is a win because we didn't overpay for him. We made him an offer he chose the skins end of story. I like that the Bills took a shot at filling a need with a mid level free agent. I bet you they are not done. After the draft you'll see alot of value signings that fill some depth and maybe steal a starter or two. we'll know a lot more about their direction after the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 We can't overpay this year, not sure why anyone is surprised when a player chooses another team over us for relatively the same money. Until we stop being the worst team in the NFL, no player will come here unless we offer them significantly more money than other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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