Dorkington Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 When you have zero talent, does it matter if effort is involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I have to question a play call that has Kyle Williams dropping in to pass coverage. Any coach that calls that sucks and not the player. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's in My Blood Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Im not sure what to make of this quote, “You’re only as good as the effort you put forth. I don’t care who it is,” said Kelsay. “I’d take Mario Williams at full health and full speed probably over anybody else in the league. At the same time I’d take Sean Ferguson, who we cut, over a guy that’s playing 50 percent, and I think our coaches would too. The playmakers have to make plays and the way you do that is giving all out effort every play.” Was Kelsay taking a shot at Mario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Im not sure what to make of this quote, “You’re only as good as the effort you put forth. I don’t care who it is,” said Kelsay. “I’d take Mario Williams at full health and full speed probably over anybody else in the league. At the same time I’d take Sean Ferguson, who we cut, over a guy that’s playing 50 percent, and I think our coaches would too. The playmakers have to make plays and the way you do that is giving all out effort every play.” Was Kelsay taking a shot at Mario? yowza - that seems pretty direct. only thing is.... if the coaches feel the same, wheres the move to get those guys off the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsxfirefighter Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Wow...wonder who he could be talking about...50% of our Front Four...IE Marcell and Mario?? http://sports.yahoo.com/news/bills-chris-kelsay-questions-teammates-205949667--nfl.html Now, only if the rest of the team decided to play the game their being paid for the whole game....then we could really see where the problems with this team reside. I miss the days of Tasker and Talley....where it was 150% emotion and heart every damn play.. Saw Talley waving the Ralley Flag before game....I think he needs to be in the damn locker room kicking some rear ends and telling the players they dont deserve to wear the Bills Helmets that they sport!! These jokers need to earn it damn it...They got paid, now prove your worth every damn cent of that paycheck your gladly cashing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 After all the heat he has taken, he should go public with the players names that are not all in. The lazy bastards should get the reputation for being a turds. No excuse for not putting out 100% in a game!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-2/Chris-Kelsay-calls-defense-out-on-the-carpet/d40732e0-291e-44b5-9b31-b3cf1317bc68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb2590 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I think benching Mario for the Houston game and his old team would send a pretty clear message. Embarrass the man into playing hard. Eh, it actually probably wouldn't affect him. Worth a shot tho IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I read this today and i think he is really talking about one person. If thats the case i am damned proud of him. "“If you aren’t going to give us everything you’ve got you shouldn’t be on the field,” he said. “I don’t care who you are. Obviously I’m not the one to make those decisions because I’m in that mix. I’m not pointing the finger. I’m looking in the mirror myself first and foremost. If you’re not going to, you shouldn’t play " He is talking about Williams i think. He could be including others. Regardless of his ability because i dont want to hear any Chris bashing. I think the truth has come out. Williams is truly skating. At least Anderson hustled all game long. Whaddya think? Is he calling him out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garion Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I am more curious about Dareus as his target in terms of finger pointing. I am glad he stood up and said something. Choice and Kelsay as our teams leaders? Who would have thought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It's not Mario. Also, always make sure to post the source when copying content from somewhere else, don't want SDS to get in trouble! Anyway, from here: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/22/bills-chris-kelsay-rips-teammates-who-arent-playing-hard/ Kelsay didn’t name any names of teammates who aren’t trying, although he did suggest that Mario Williams isn’t going 100 percent because he’s hurt.“I’d take Mario Williams at full health and full speed probably over anybody else in the league,” Kelsay said. “At the same time I’d take Sean Ferguson, who we cut, over a guy that’s playing 50 percent, and I think our coaches would too. The playmakers have to make plays and the way you do that is giving all out effort every play.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzShowUsYourTitz Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) WOW. Finally someone standing up. Love the accountability. Sounds to me like he is calling out Mario. Just got to read between the lines. LOVE IT! Kelsay wasn’t pulling any punches. After watching the tape there is only one conclusion he can reach. “If you aren’t going to give us everything you’ve got you shouldn’t be on the field,” he said. “I don’t care who you are. Obviously I’m not the one to make those decisions because I’m in that mix. I’m not pointing the finger. I’m looking in the mirror myself first and foremost. If you’re not going to, you shouldn’t play.” Kelsay doesn’t deny that the effort issue is a big problem for a team, but he insists it will be addressed. And if the starters seeing the most time can’t give their best effort on every play, the veteran end said he’d rather line up with a less talented player who will. “You’re only as good as the effort you put forth. I don’t care who it is,” said Kelsay. “I’d take Mario Williams at full health and full speed probably over anybody else in the league. At the same time I’d take Sean Ferguson, who we cut, over a guy that’s playing 50 percent, and I think our coaches would too. The playmakers have to make plays and the way you do that is giving all out effort every play.” Edited October 22, 2012 by Cville Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) WOW. Finally someone standing up. Love the accountability. Sounds to me like he is calling out Mario. Just got to read between the lines. LOVE IT! Kelsay wasn’t pulling any punches. After watching the tape there is only one conclusion he can reach. “If you aren’t going to give us everything you’ve got you shouldn’t be on the field,” he said. “I don’t care who you are. Obviously I’m not the one to make those decisions because I’m in that mix. I’m not pointing the finger. I’m looking in the mirror myself first and foremost. If you’re not going to, you shouldn’t play.” Kelsay doesn’t deny that the effort issue is a big problem for a team, but he insists it will be addressed. And if the starters seeing the most time can’t give their best effort on every play, the veteran end said he’d rather line up with a less talented player who will. “You’re only as good as the effort you put forth. I don’t care who it is,” said Kelsay. “I’d take Mario Williams at full health and full speed probably over anybody else in the league. At the same time I’d take Sean Ferguson, who we cut, over a guy that’s playing 50 percent, and I think our coaches would too. The playmakers have to make plays and the way you do that is giving all out effort every play.” I think as fans we read far into things. Also, I don't think he's stupid enough to call out a fellow d-lineman after mentioning his name in the previous sentence. Especially after a subtle reference to him not being 100% healthy. Edited October 22, 2012 by stony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I am more curious about Dareus as his target in terms of finger pointing. There is no doubt in my mind that is exactly who he's talking to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Stopping the run and rushing the passer are all about effort and not giving up. After watching the Bills' complete inability to stop San Fran, the Pats, and even the Titans (for most of the game), I would say there are a lot of people about whom his comments would apply. As an aside, is there a site that keeps track of 3 and outs. I have to believe that we are near the bottom of the league (if not the bottom) at 3 and outs. We also have to be near the bottom of the league in allowing teams to convert third and longs. San Fran converted critical third and longs by RUNNING the ball. Yesterday, at the end of the game, we got the Titans into a couple of third/fourth and longs during the game winning drive and could not stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramses Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 although dareus may need it, i agree with 3rdand12 - i think kelsay was calling out mario. i think the veterans collectively would have more easily corrected dareus' behavior as he is just a young 2nd year player - behind the scenes. i think kelsay is calling out mario in a public but somewhat shrouded way as it is probably harder to change the behavior of a $100 million man who has previously been well accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) As bad as the D is playing, there is no place for the scrubs to be calling out the starters. If perennial disappointment Kelsay has something to say to his teammates, he should close the door and say it or simply STFU. The balls on this guy! This is called losing control of the locker room. Edited October 22, 2012 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Well, Kelsay has been with us the longest and he definitely plays with heart. I think he's allowed to speak up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I said during the game yesterday "I would bench Mario and Dareus until the 2nd half of the next game." Let them be embarrassed. See if they have the balls to come back strong. Especially benching Mario in his fairt trip back to Houston. I dont care how bad it would make the signing look, it would at least show that someone at OBD cares. Someone at OBD needs to light a fire. I was hoping there would be someone kicking over tables in team meetings today, but from the report I got from my friend that he was on the same plane as Mario today, I guess not. I realize players usually have the first few days of the Bye off, but they better be ready with a whole new perspective when they get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 As bad as the D is playing, there is no place for the scrubs to be calling out the starters. If perennial disappointment Kelsay has something to say to his teammates, he should close the door and say it or simply STFU. The balls on this guy! This is called losing control of the locker room. I don't care if it's someone on the practice squad saying this...if it's true and needs to be said, then say it. When something goes wrong, people have to be accountable. I hope someone is and gets what's coming to them...be it the bench or get cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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