Captain Hindsight Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Ive been watching Hairston Closely on NFL Game Rewind. I know Buddy says we can win with him, but what does TBD think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Ive been watching Hairston Closely on NFL Game Rewind. I know Buddy says we can win with him, but what does TBD think? where's your cousin captain foresight for the answer? Seriously though what did you see on rewind? Anything that stuck out? I don't have the option of that but do pay attention to the lines and thought Hairston did well for a rookie. Add in the whole no tc, no offseason activities, thrown to the wolves and I voted yes to this question. However I would like to hear what you have to say about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 For a rookie who was a mid-round draft pick, I don't know how anyone could say he doesn't have the potential to be a starter. The kid was a heckuva solid pick up for us. We need to find one or two more Chris Hairstons THIS year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 where's your cousin captain foresight for the answer? Seriously though what did you see on rewind? Anything that stuck out? I don't have the option of that but do pay attention to the lines and thought Hairston did well for a rookie. Add in the whole no tc, no offseason activities, thrown to the wolves and I voted yes to this question. However I would like to hear what you have to say about it. Hes on vacation Frankly I thought he struggled more than people realize. He pretty good at getting in the way and doesnt get beat on the edge often but he can be bull rushed and collapsed that way. Personally I'm not ready to anoint him the starter just yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I give Hairston some slack because he was a rookie with NO OTAs, and then missed a bunch of time due to injury, yet he still came in and at least held his own. I also dont see a Tackle outside of Kalil, that for certain, would come in and beat him out for the spot. So yes, Im fine with Hairston starting if that is how it works out. Another year in the system, playing next to the same guys, and with a full offseason worth of workouts and coaching... could be worse. I would still like to see the Bills bring in a couple of OTs from the 3rd-5th rounds to push the competition, and provide depth behind Hairston and Pears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainwampus Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I can't cite any specific stats or plays or anything, but I felt like Spiller didn't look like a superstar until Hairston took over for Bell last season. I remember Hairston absolutely crushing guys with blocks in the run game. He wasn't always perfect in the pass-blocking, but certainly a good rookie season. FYI, at the 2011 combine, he had 33 reps on the benchpress, the highest of any OT player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 He's a guy that can play in a pinch and fill in for a few games. However, he still has a long way to go to develop and at this point I don't feel extremely confident with him as the starting LT right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Absolutely. Players usually make their biggest gains in their second year, so he should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsFORlife50 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Personally I think at this point he is a better tackle then both Rieff or Martin so I would not waste a first on them. The only linemen I would take in the first is DeCastro and then kick Levitre to LT as he is a pretty good LT and Hairston can then be used as the backup swing tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 He's fine starting until Kalil is ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 He was going to start this year regardless of who we draft..... Keep in mind that he was starting even when Bell was healthy last year at the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) I'm okay with him penciled in as the starter in August as long as there is a viable "Plan B" if he ***** the bed prior to the season opener. I would like them to avoid what happened last year when the Bills counted on Merriman last year only to end up playing guys like Spencer Johnson at OLB as "Plan B", after Merriman to no ones surprise....went down for the season. Edited April 23, 2012 by LabattBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 As a rookie with no offseason last year he was solid, with a full offseason of coaching and work he can only get better, there is no rookie who will start over him in week one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 As a rookie with no offseason last year he was solid, with a full offseason of coaching and work he can only get better, there is no rookie who will start over him in week one Agreed. If Buddy can find another Hairston or two in the middle rounds for depth and competition then it would be just dandy. It will be interesting what will happen if Kalil ends up sliding to 10. Probably won't happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I say yes. I thought he looked pretty good without the advantages of a full offseason of preparation and practice. For him, I think overall physical condition is a big factor here. If he comes to camp fit, he'll be real good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I give Hairston some slack because he was a rookie with NO OTAs, and then missed a bunch of time due to injury, yet he still came in and at least held his own. I also dont see a Tackle outside of Kalil, that for certain, would come in and beat him out for the spot. So yes, Im fine with Hairston starting if that is how it works out. Another year in the system, playing next to the same guys, and with a full offseason worth of workouts and coaching... could be worse. I would still like to see the Bills bring in a couple of OTs from the 3rd-5th rounds to push the competition, and provide depth behind Hairston and Pears. DrD is rigtht. He'll due. As Leslie Frasier just said, LTs arent game changers anyway. Leave top 10 LT picks to teams like the Browns and Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'm surprised by the optimism of these results, frankly. Seven uneventful starts during a dismal losing streak but, hey, we know he'll get better! It'd would certainly be a nice story, but I don't think Hollywood's ready to buy the movie right just yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbelt City Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Hairston is huge and has a wingspan... He can hold up in our quick pass offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'm okay with him penciled in as the starter in August as long as there is a viable "Plan B" if he ***** the bed prior to the season opener. I would like them to avoid what happened last year when the Bills counted on Merriman last year only to end up playing guys like Spencer Johnson at OLB as "Plan B", after Merriman to no ones surprise....went down for the season. Agreed. Maybe Buddy has McNeil on his speed dial for first thing Saturday night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammet89 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Hairstons the starter we should go with... Unless kalil is on the board at 10 still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optometric Insight Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I voted yes because he was a rookie and the lockout, etc. last year. I don't remember seeing him get beat all the time and letting the end get to Fitz so just based on that, I would let him start but I'm also a teen so what do I know But it would be nice to grab a 2nd/3rd round LT and have Hairston hold down the fort while the rookie gets situated and adapted to the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstencel Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Think need to clarify what mean by start. Is he starting caliber period, or at left tackle. Think he is very well suited to be a long term starter at right tackle, but think of him more of a swing tackle, in that can play on left side in a pinch, but isnt his best position and probably dont want him starting there long term. I would say no, if mean just LT, and yes if RT is included in this discussion. I didnt answer cause not sure which mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Long Beach Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 He's got the opportunity to improve. Who knows if he can actually take a step forward. We've seen plenty of guys who have showed a little something, but have been unable to do more in subsequent years. See Ko "I'm worth Millions" Simpson. DBell was one who started out pretty rough but was able to consistently get better. He's the exception. I don't have a lot of faith in Hairston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Hairston played in Games 1-6 and fared pretty well. ProFootballFocus premium stats gave him positive grades in 4 of those 6 games. Fitz was unhurt and the team had a winning record. Hairston returned to the lineup in Games 11-17. There was a new O-Line every week. Musical Chairs Time. Hairston was one of the victims. Only 2 of the 7 games (Game 11 and 12 vs. Miami and the Jets) received positive grades from PFF. But Hairston has the size and wingspan. He needs minicamps and training camp, preseason and CONSISTENCY on that offensive line. This is on D'Alessandris to have a defined set of starters, and on our training staff to have them ready physically for the demands of the whole season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I am comparing his Combine numbers alone vs this years rookies. His 40 time is horrible, but if he's going forward we are winning, I never understood forty times with the Oline, I guess it shows he can get the line of scrimmage fast? 5.43 Jonathan Martin was 5.35 Bench Press, 33, better than any OT at the combine Vert Jump 29" would be 5th best at Combine among OT Broad 96" bottom tier, but not the worse 3 cone -7.9 seconds better than Mike Adams and Cordy Glen 4.7- 20 yard shuttle better than Reiff, Bobby Massie, Mike Adams and .05 away from Matt Kalil. I think he'll be fine, he played against some of the best at Clemson, beyond those you know in the ACC, he practiced against Bowers, Sapp, Branch and Malliciah Goodman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinWPB Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I am comparing his Combine numbers alone vs this years rookies. His 40 time is horrible, but if he's going forward we are winning, I never understood forty times with the Oline, I guess it shows he can get the line of scrimmage fast? 5.43 Jonathan Martin was 5.35 Bench Press, 33, better than any OT at the combine Vert Jump 29" would be 5th best at Combine among OT Broad 96" bottom tier, but not the worse 3 cone -7.9 seconds better than Mike Adams and Cordy Glen 4.7- 20 yard shuttle better than Reiff, Bobby Massie, Mike Adams and .05 away from Matt Kalil. I think he'll be fine, he played against some of the best at Clemson, beyond those you know in the ACC, he practiced against Bowers, Sapp, Branch and Malliciah Goodman. Sounds like if he was in this years draft everybody would be yelling for Hairston at #10 .Go figure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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