EastRochBillsfan Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 A fickle group we are here at the stadium wall. All part of the fiendish plot to spend money to hide the fact that Ralph is cheap. Bwah-hah-hah. PTR And everyone thinks the front office is so dumb. It takes a lot of intelligence to be cheap but to hide it at the same time. As for my take on Parrish, I see nothing wrong with extending his contract. He showed what he can bring to the table last year. Not too many people can stay with this man one on one. He is a dangerous weapon. And whether he has had his share of injuries or not, he helps this team. A lot of u guys are always biatching that we don't keep our players. Now we are trying to keep some of our players and it's still not good enough. Fickle I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Yeah Promo, what a smnart move to extend an under productive gadget player! You are right; everything the Bills do is great. Our dismal record is a mere coincidence. Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 So "the offense being horrible, and the coaches under-utilizing him" is an ok excuse for Fred, but does not apply to Roscoe throughout the Jauron years? Ok guys... Point is that FJ was STILL under utilized by gailey until about 1/3 of the way thru the season. Roscoe was very much utilized until he proved once again that durability is a question for him. Jauron certainly didn't know what to do with him, or with anybody on offense, for that matter. This doesn't change the fact that the Bills FO appears to have respect for Roscoe when at least the same is due Freddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Yeah Promo, what a smnart move to extend an under productive gadget player! You are right; everything the Bills do is great. Our dismal record is a mere coincidence. No, it's because we're cursed. We never should have let that Mogwai eat after midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 But, but, but... Ralph is cheap, the Bills are racist, and Roscoe is black Just to prove the point, the Bills are going to re-sign Parrish, stop payment on his signing bonus, and cut him before the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz's Beard Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 And the legend of "Fred Jackson" continues to grow... Dont get me wrong, I love Freddie, but looking at his production I fail to see these "special things" that have people believing he deserves to be first in line for a new contract (with 2 years remaining on his deal). 2010 927yds, 5 TDs, 2 RecTDs, 5 Fumbles 2009 1062 yds, 2 TDs, 2 RecTDs, 2 Fumbles Thats about it... If Roscoe is easily replaceable, Fred is even more so. Did you factor in the number of games where he was the feature back? Because for both years, it wasn't until something like 3 games in. He wasn't seeing the ball all that much at the beginning of the seasons. I believe Roscoe is more replaceable than Freddie, but in all honesty, I think both are necessary for the team to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I like this move if only because the guys shown that he can play in this system. Evans did not, why wouldnt we extend the guy that plays the ideal slot for us. Hes fast enough, but where he gets people is that he is really quick, and tougher than the 175 lbs he is. Good player who never fit what we were trying to do here when he was under contract for the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flomoe Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) I dont get it, reminds me of extending Kelsay. A 175lb slot receiver who can't stay healthy and will be 30 next year? Here's the reality. Parrish's career stats in 6 years are are 133 receptions for 1486 yards. Thats a per season average of 22 catches for 248 yards. His season high for receiving TD's is a whopping 2, his career high for receiving yards is 400. He does have 13 career fumbles with 6 lost though. His production is as imaginary as Spiller's 50 yard TD runs. He's averaged 11 games played a year for the last 3 years. So actually it makes perfect sense, in a Bills dysfunctional front office way. I don't disagree with anything that you say and if you look at it from the "dysfunctional" front office view, I guess it's perfectly clear. The only thing I disagree with your stats is that if you took what he did last year in 8 games and if you carry those stats through the year, those are some pretty decent numbers. Can't argue the staying healthy fact because so far he can't but IF he can, it does promise at least some entertainment out of the slot. The most important thing that I need to know though billsfan714, who is that in your avatar???? Good Lord!! Edited September 1, 2011 by flomoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) Can I ask a question to all of you who are griping about this? As long as it's a reasonable contract with language that protects the Bills in the case of injury (which I'm sure they'd insist on), and it doesn't preclude them from spending money in other areas (it won't - that's a Bills Fan Myth), why do you freaking care? It's not like it's your money. Edited September 1, 2011 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Can I ask a question to all of you who are griping about this? As long as it's a reasonable contract with language that protects the Bills in the case of injury (which I'm sure they'd insist on), and it doesn't preclude them from spending money in other areas (it won't - that's a Bills Fan Myth), why do you freaking care? It's not like it's your money. Actually, I would argue it IS our money. Where do you think that money comes from? Us, every time we buy a ticket or purchase merchandise. That being said, so long as the contract is reasonable it isn't a big deal...It just seems like it would make a whole lot more sense to see if Parrish can actually stay healthy and be a productive player for a whole season first. Personally I think I'd rather see the young prospects make this team over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarmanuscg07 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 HE was on pace for 800yds recieving 4tds and 260 punt return yds last year.. Im kind of surprised and impressed by that, I don't remember him being that kind of a factor last year, he consistently had 60 yds receiving per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bills-nfl/article541137.ece If moving Evans was only a cost-cutting move, why wouldn't they move Parrish instead at $3.3M a year? I like the move! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 You may have forgotten that much of what happened was the result of the way teams punted to the Bills that year BECAUSE he is such a weapon. He had one year with the highest return avg. But even in that year, he returned a lot fewer punts than other return leaders (Devin Hester was, by far, the best punt returner that year). The next year, he only returned 21 punts all year and went from 2 fair catches to 10. The year after that (2009), he only returned 24 punts, his avg had dropped to an incredible 5.5 yds and he fair caught 13 and fumbled 4. Clearly, Parrish's days as "the best punt returner in NFL history" are way behind him. He's lost interest ("disappeared")in that part of his game. I know that there are a lot of Roscoe haters and Evans lovers on this board. The one thing that I always found amusing is that, notwithstanding the difference is size, Roscoe never had a problem going over the middle. Evans on the other hand . . . . I like this move if only because the guys shown that he can play in this system. Evans did not, why wouldnt we extend the guy that plays the ideal slot for us. Hes fast enough, but where he gets people is that he is really quick, and tougher than the 175 lbs he is. Good player who never fit what we were trying to do here when he was under contract for the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Chan needs another wild cat QB For 8 games last year Roscoe = Maybin. Yep sounds like he deserves an extension to me. I do not understand what the rush to extend him is. At least wait until the season is half over to see what his play is like and if he stays healthy. I would do the same thing with Stevie and Fitz. Last year may have been an aberration you know like Jairus Byrd’s rookie year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Hester is by far the greatest punt returner I have ever seen. But I still believe that Roscoe is up there in regards to current returners. He is explosive in the open field and can make people miss. He wasn't given many opportunities after that fumble against Cleveland a few years back, which was an awful play. Roscoe is a mediocre punt returner at this point--steadily declined after his "record year". In fact, now that he is the slot, I bet he doesn't want to return punts anymore. The reason why Fitz isn't being extended yet is the Bills want to see if last year was a fluke or not, and because re-signing him, a QB, is an order of magnitude higher in money than Roscoe would be. Speaking of which, I'm all for a reasonable deal for Roscoe. But anything more than what he was making ($3.3M/year) is overpaying, unless there are provisions for missing games due to injury. Why wouldn't the Bills want to see if Roscoe's 8 games of productivity (and health) were a fluke or not? As for my take on Parrish, I see nothing wrong with extending his contract. He showed what he can bring to the table last year. Not too many people can stay with this man one on one. He is a dangerous weapon. And whether he has had his share of injuries or not, he helps this team. A lot of u guys are always biatching that we don't keep our players. Now we are trying to keep some of our players and it's still not good enough. Fickle I say. I don't think anyone is saying "don't keep Roscoe". Just don't see why we have to extend him now when he hasn't seen a snap since Nov 7, 2010. Can I ask a question to all of you who are griping about this? As long as it's a reasonable contract with language that protects the Bills in the case of injury (which I'm sure they'd insist on), and it doesn't preclude them from spending money in other areas (it won't - that's a Bills Fan Myth), why do you freaking care? It's not like it's your money. Can I ask you a question? Let's say Roscoe has a great September and then is injured and is out for a few more games, or goes on IR (there is a high probablility this happens). Would you extend him then? Would you look back and say "I'm glad we etended him in preseason? You may have forgotten that much of what happened was the result of the way teams punted to the Bills that year BECAUSE he is such a weapon. I know that there are a lot of Roscoe haters and Evans lovers on this board. The one thing that I always found amusing is that, notwithstanding the difference is size, Roscoe never had a problem going over the middle. Evans on the other hand . . . . His average dropped to 5.5 yards and he fair caught 13 balls. If he took 2 giant steps and laid down, he wouuld have had longer average return. Those aren't good numbers. DeSean Jackson and Josh Cribbs were still fielding a lot of punts..... Anyway, Evans looked good going over the middle in the week 2 Balt game last week. At what point did he tell the coaching staff that he refused to go over the middle? Does he simply run a different route than the opne called in the huddle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I'm cool with it. The way he looked last year before his injury was eye opening to say the least. Gailey can salvage this guy and make him a serious threat in the slot. Just keep him healthy. "before his injury" is the key phrase here. Roscoe is a very small guy. Not like short small, like slight small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 lets see if he can play 16 games for the first time since the 07-08 season. I'm in week 3 of Madden 12 and he is already out for 11 weeks lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I'm in week 3 of Madden 12 and he is already out for 11 weeks lmao But he should be back just in time for the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I'm in week 3 of Madden 12 and he is already out for 11 weeks lmao Ohh snap!!! I have to try now b/c I got Madden 12 last evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitz's Beard Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Ohh snap!!! I have to try now b/c I got Madden 12 last evening I started a Bills Franchise...and Lost Marcell for the entire season on the first snap of preseason...Re-start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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