UFO Found on Ocean Floor?

[Foxx]

On 4/11/2020 at 11:17 PM, 4merper4mer said:

Any updates on this?

'bout all i got...

[Deranged Rhino]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-opens-outer-space-for-business-11587316780

[4merper4mer]

Which is most irrational?

 

A. Getting all worked up that the Bills haven't found a UDFA punter

B.  Believing, despite math, that intelligent aliens could exist.

C. Believing that cutting Trent Murphy is the answer to everything.

 

 

Edited April 27, 2020 by 4merper4mer

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

17 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Which is most irrational?

 

A. Getting all worked up that the Bills haven't found a UDFA

B.  Believing, despite theoretical math, that intelligent aliens could exist.

C. Believing that cutting Trent Murphy is the answer to everything.

 

 

 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/simple-math-shows-how-many-space-aliens-may-be-out-ncna841371

 

If you look up the formula online, you'll see that it takes into account the odds that there are habitable planets around other stars, the likelihood that life will arise, and the probability that biology will occasionally evolve to produce clever beings. But even without wrestling with the Drake Equation, we can use similar reasoning to gauge the plentitude of alien societies and how close the Klingons might be.

 

By this rough and ready calculation, the nearest aliens are probably between one and two thousand light-years away. In other words, no closer than the three bright stars of Orion's Belt. Sure, alien neighbors might be farther — or closer. But this order-of-magnitude estimate tells us that they're not next door. They haven't heard our news reports, and they're not likely to have any incentive to visit. They simply don't know we're here.

Yes, the aliens are likely around, and 10,000 societies could inhabit our galaxy (not to mention those other galaxies!) They're not close. But they may be discoverable.

[4merper4mer]

28 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/simple-math-shows-how-many-space-aliens-may-be-out-ncna841371

 

If you look up the formula online, you'll see that it takes into account the odds that there are habitable planets around other stars, the likelihood that life will arise, and the probability that biology will occasionally evolve to produce clever beings. But even without wrestling with the Drake Equation, we can use similar reasoning to gauge the plentitude of alien societies and how close the Klingons might be.

 

By this rough and ready calculation, the nearest aliens are probably between one and two thousand light-years away. In other words, no closer than the three bright stars of Orion's Belt. Sure, alien neighbors might be farther — or closer. But this order-of-magnitude estimate tells us that they're not next door. They haven't heard our news reports, and they're not likely to have any incentive to visit. They simply don't know we're here.

Yes, the aliens are likely around, and 10,000 societies could inhabit our galaxy (not to mention those other galaxies!) They're not close. But they may be discoverable.

Wow.  Seriously?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:

Wow.  Seriously?

 

isn't what I posted different from the initial "statement" was, that Drakes equation was proof that life doesn't exist?

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

*Just the USG (once again) confirming UFO/UAPs are real. 

 

... So where did they come from? Who/what is operating them? And, why release this now and not 10 years ago?

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

isn't what I posted different from the initial "statement" was, that Drakes equation was proof that life doesn't exist?

 

 

Drake's equation itself isn't proof of anything.  The fact that the equation has a product of zero  is what shows aliens don't exist.

 

The shockingly haphazard article you posted had claims that only bolster this, despite trying to do the opposite.

 

If, as the article claims, there are 10s of thousands of civilizations in our galaxy alone, what are the odds that at least one of them is thousands or millions of years ahead of us?  Those are are very very high.  And yet, no evidence, no signals, no Von Neumann probes, no nothing.  There should be lots of all of those things.  Except math.  Accept math.

[Bad Things]

4 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

isn't what I posted different from the initial "statement" was, that Drakes equation was proof that life doesn't exist?

 

 

Mate, you're wasting your time. 

 

Just put him/her on "ignore" and move on. Some things just aren't worth it. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

9 minutes ago, Bad Things said:

Mate, you're wasting your time. 

 

Just put him/her on "ignore" and move on. Some things just aren't worth it. 

 

I actually enjoy the discussion.   No skin off my nose. 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

 

 

[Warcodered]

 

6 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Drake's equation itself isn't proof of anything.  The fact that the equation has a product of zero  is what shows aliens don't exist.

 

The shockingly haphazard article you posted had claims that only bolster this, despite trying to do the opposite.

 

If, as the article claims, there are 10s of thousands of civilizations in our galaxy alone, what are the odds that at least one of them is thousands or millions of years ahead of us?  Those are are very very high.  And yet, no evidence, no signals, no Von Neumann probes, no nothing.  There should be lots of all of those things.  Except math.  Accept math.

huh I didn't realize we didn't exist good to know.

[Augie]

6 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Drake's equation itself isn't proof of anything.  The fact that the equation has a product of zero  is what shows aliens don't exist.

 

The shockingly haphazard article you posted had claims that only bolster this, despite trying to do the opposite.

 

If, as the article claims, there are 10s of thousands of civilizations in our galaxy alone, what are the odds that at least one of them is thousands or millions of years ahead of us?  Those are are very very high.  And yet, no evidence, no signals, no Von Neumann probes, no nothing.  There should be lots of all of those things.  Except math.  Accept math.

 

So, are you saying............it’s not sitcom math? 

 

This is so confusing! 

13 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

huh I didn't realize we didn't exist good to know.

 

It’s all an illusion! 

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

So, are you saying............it’s not sitcom math? 

 

This is so confusing! 

 

It’s all an illusion! 

It's sitcom math because it was on a sitcom.  More comical yet is that the sitcom character used an equation to bolster an argument it actually refutes.

 

And the "UFO" is only U to some.  Not to the Pentagon.

 

 

[LeGOATski]

11 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Just the USG (once again) confirming UFO/UAPs are real. 

 

... So where did they come from? Who/what is operating them? And, why release this now and not 10 years ago?

Anything new on these videos? Or just the same three that Tom Delonge released?

[Deranged Rhino]

3 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Anything new on these videos? Or just the same three that Tom Delonge released?

Same sightings — just now officially sanctioned by the DoD rather than just the USN. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

13 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

 

 

 

How did I know this would be spoken to.   B) 

 

https://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-released-ufo-footage-tom-delonge-1500607

 

though this video seems to have been released prior 

 

coincidentally on the TV morning news UFO talk

 

One Senator says the tapes only scratch the surface ..

 

 

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-american-people-deserve-to-be-informed-harry-reid-says-ufo-footage-only-scratches-the-surface

 

5 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

How did I know this would be spoken to.   B) 

 

https://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-released-ufo-footage-tom-delonge-1500607

 

though this video seems to have been released prior 

 

coincidentally on the TV morning news UFO talk

 

One Senator says the tapes only scratch the surface ..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yup, it's the same three videos the USN leaked through the AATIP outfit (Delonge's group), though now instead of being "leaked" it's officially sanctioned by the DoD. So it's not new, but is a rather strong statement coming from the USG when they could have just ignored it and let AATIP run wild with it without ever confirming. The fact they did confirm it, and now Reid is again talking (about AATIP and other things) shows me that someone in the DoD wants this to be a talking point in the news cycle. 

 

Is it because it's just the start of more disclosures to come? (possibly) 

Or is it to try to deflect from other news in the ether which the DoD (or other parties) wish to bury? (possibly)

 

I get the sense that whoever is pushing this expected the Delonge group to be more effective at mainstreaming this information -- and this move is to try to goose the public. But I'm (of course) guessing.

 

[TroutDog]

Wow, I wish I were a member way back when this started!

 

I served as an air traffic controller in the USN and saw/heard of ‘UFO’s’ relatively regularly. While I was there (five years), we could figure out what they all were. 
 

I’ve got tons of interesting stories (including TWA800). Not aliens or a missile in case you’re wondering. ? 

[ChevyVanMiller]

1 hour ago, TroutDog said:

Wow, I wish I were a member way back when this started!

 

I served as an air traffic controller in the USN and saw/heard of ‘UFO’s’ relatively regularly. While I was there (five years), we could figure out what they all were. 
 

I’ve got tons of interesting stories (including TWA800). Not aliens or a missile in case you’re wondering. ? 

Do tell.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hydrogen-breathing-aliens-study-suggests-150119656.html

 

Hydrogen-breathing aliens? Study suggests new approach to finding extraterrestrial life

 

But what if alien life uses somewhat different chemistry to ours? A new study, published in Nature Astronomy, argues that our best chances of using atmospheres to find evidence of life is to broaden our search from focusing on planets like our own to include those with a hydrogen atmosphere.

 

We can probe the atmosphere of an exoplanet when it passes in front of its star. When such a transit happens, the star’s light has to pass through the planet’s atmosphere to reach us and some of it is absorbed as it goes. Looking at the star’s spectrum – its light broken down according to its wavelength – and working out what light is missing because of the transit reveals which gases the atmosphere consists of. Documenting exoplanet atmospheres is one of the goals of the much-delayed James Webb Space Telescope.

[4merper4mer]

Any updates on this?

[ICanSleepWhenI'mDead]

2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Any updates on this?

 

Well, I don't know if I would call it an update, but apparently the fact that we have no real evidence of alien life tends to prove that there is a conspiracy to hide it:

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/5/8/21244090/pentagon-ufo-videos-navy-alexander-wendt?utm_source=pocket-newtab

[LeGOATski]

On 5/10/2020 at 9:06 AM, ICanSleepWhenI'mDead said:

 

Well, I don't know if I would call it an update, but apparently the fact that we have no real evidence of alien life tends to prove that there is a conspiracy to hide it:

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/5/8/21244090/pentagon-ufo-videos-navy-alexander-wendt?utm_source=pocket-newtab

I think they hit on the truth, which is very complex and very simple at the same time: there's no upside.

 

If aliens existed on this planet, we'd have to wait for them to make themselves known to us. We can't spend the money trying to find them.

 

What we can spend the money on is technology that will allow us to get off this planet.

[4merper4mer]

4 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

1 I think they hit on the truth, which is very complex and very simple at the same time: there's no upside.

 

2 If aliens existed on this planet, we'd have to wait for them to make themselves known to us. We can't spend the money trying to find them.

 

3 What we can spend the money on is technology that will allow us to get off this planet.

1.  Accurate

2. They don't exist here or anywhere else.  Money spent trying to find them is wasted.  If they did exist they would be able to hide from us........except math.  Accept math.

3.  Correct.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/one-million-super-earth-discovered-222459492.html

Another day, another super-Earth? Not so fast. This one really is special.

Calling it "incredibly rare," New Zealand astronomers say that the planet "is one of only a handful that have been discovered with both size and orbit comparable to that of Earth," according to a statement.

 

 

 

 

It would also orbit its star at a location between Venus and Earth. 

 

However, as for life, or water, study authors say not to get our hopes up: "Although it’s not too much bigger than Earth, and orbiting its star at a similar distance, this planet would be very cold because its star is smaller than the sun and emits much less light,"  study co-author Michael Abrow of New Zealand's University of Canterbury told USA TODAY.

 

Haven't they seen the frozen worlds on Star Wars? 

[Deranged Rhino]

Reports of a crash in Brazil are all over the place. 

 

 

 

Translation:

 

now at night I heard a very loud noise in the sky, my husband and I saw 3 (ships or sla what they could be) were not airplanes because they were at a surreal speed ... And the noise was strange, it was loud! There were lights, blue, and red And, we are living the end of time. They are mapping the entire territory. In the end, no one will have anywhere to hide that they call me MAD from history, but whoever knows the Bible knows what I'm talking about

 

 

 

Translation: 

"Video of the MAGE UFO! Supposed flying saucer was filmed by a woman who claims to have breached the lockdown to take the video. 

 

#Ovni

#OvniMage

#Mage

 

Those tags on Twitter will lead you to more

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[Warcodered]

3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

 

 

I think I prefer this interpretation.

[LeGOATski]

 

[K-9]

Alien Agenda. That sums it up.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[LeGOATski]

2 hours ago, K-9 said:

Alien Agenda. That sums it up.

Your straight-forward alien news source! ?

[K-9]

2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Why are all UFO sightings automatically attributed to aliens? If it had 100 led equipped drones and a computer program, I could create the same phenomena.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Not UFO related but .... Space  "New" disc galaxy discovered. 

 

https://www.space.com/wolfe-disk-massive-galaxy-discovery.html

 

 

This process is thought to be fairly gradual, taking a long time. But the newly discovered galaxy DLA0817g, nicknamed the "Wolfe Disk," which scientists believe formed in the early universe, suggests that disk galaxies could actually form quite quickly. 

 

yet ..... somehow Middle Earth comes to mind 

 

 

 

 

[4merper4mer]

Sorry for the lack of a link but in the news today are claims of discovery that a parallel universe exists where physic are the opposite and time moves in reverse.

 

Think it through....I won't give you hints......one parallel universe where time runs backwords from ours can't really exist.  There would have to be infinite parallels.  Why?

[LeGOATski]

4 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Sorry for the lack of a link but in the news today are claims of discovery that a parallel universe exists where physic are the opposite and time moves in reverse.

 

Think it through....I won't give you hints......one parallel universe where time runs backwords from ours can't really exist.  There would have to be infinite parallels.  Why?

Because aliens exist.

 

Also, *backwards

 

https://www.sciencealert.com/of-course-nasa-did-not-detect-a-parallel-universe-in-antarctica

[4merper4mer]

29 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Because aliens exist.

 

Also, *backwards

 

https://www.sciencealert.com/of-course-nasa-did-not-detect-a-parallel-universe-in-antarctica

Aliens don't exist nor does a single parallel.  That article goes into detail but it is overkill.  Simple logic makes it impossible.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/research-reveals-odds-life-evolving-194243028.html

 

New research reveals the odds of life evolving on alien worlds

 

"In Bayesian inference, prior probability distributions always need to be selected," Kipping said. "But a key result here is that when one compares the rare-life versus common-life scenarios, the common-life scenario is always at least nine times more likely than the rare one."

This life-friendly probability distribution is based on the fact that life developed so quickly after Earth's formation. The earliest life forms emerged during the first 300 million years in Earth's history.