Astrobot Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/5/1/2147197/undrafted-free-agent-singings-nfl-draft-2011 Have at it. When we're allowed to, how would you complement what players we've taken? Astro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Grab a TE and some more OL. Maybe even a kicker and punter. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn Down For Watkins Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 thinkin they should bring in pat devlin and see what he can do in camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishP Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Ryan Bartholomew C 6'1" 302 Syracuse Kendric Burney DB 5'9" 186 North Carolina Mark Herzlich LB 6'4" 244 Boston College Patrick Devlin QB 6'3" 225 Delaware Jeffrey Maehl WR 6'1" 190 Oregon Richard Lapham OL 6'8" 315 Boston College Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 (edited) I'd like to give Kedric Burney,Kai Forbath, Kris O'Dowd,Noel Devine,Terrance Tolliver, and Weslye Sanders a look. Side Note: is Daniel Aiken from UVA really a 6 foot 4 244 pound OFFENSIVE LINEMAN???? Edited May 1, 2011 by mob16151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Schuylar Oordt - because I've heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Nishous - nice lsit but toward the top I would add TE Andre Smith from VA Tech. He is the complete package & Would be a true steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I'd bring Zack Pianalto (TE-UNC) in for a look-see. He had some injury issues, but when healthy he was a phenomenal prospect (and he fills a need). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishP Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Nishous - nice lsit but toward the top I would add TE Andre Smith from VA Tech. He is the complete package & Would be a true steal. Yeah, i think we are gonna maybe pick up a tight end for blocking purposes only in FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewsz1991 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Scott Lutrus Zach Hurd Marc Herzlich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloha22 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 DeAndre McDaniel Scott Tolzien John Clay Charlie Gantt Terrence Toliver Lestar Jean DeAndre Brown Orie Lemon Joshua Jasper Pierre Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Kendric Burney DB 5'9" 186 North Carolina Mark Herzlich LB 6'4" 244 Boston College Patrick Devlin QB 6'3" 225 Delaware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Schuylar Oordt - because I've heard of him. How about because he's 6'7", 246 lbs, recorded a 4.63 40 and a 36 vertical leap, and racked up >18 YPC at a small school with historically a good football program? Nishous - nice lsit but toward the top I would add TE Andre Smith from VA Tech. He is the complete package & Would be a true steal. Strange that he's not on that list of UFA. I agree, he would be valuable - immediate special teams contributor and good blocking skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 (edited) Janoris Jenkins, DB out of UF is the most valuable UDFA there is. He was booted form the team at UF a mere week or so by a new coach looking to make a stand. He was booted for drugs, but it was just weed. It was like his second weed violation and then he got in a little fight 2 entire years ago. Yeah he's no saint, but that's why he's available and he didn't kill anyone or have a cocaine problem (like a certain QB people wanted to draft). The kid was the second CB to start day one as a freshman in school history. He was a freshman all-american. He WAS without a doubt the best player on UF's defense until he was booted, once again by a new coach who looked to crack the whip and establish discipline. Plain and simple if Urban were still at UF he would not have been kicked off (since it wasn't that serious and he was one of Urban's guys), he would be the best player on the D next season, and he would have been a 1st round pick in next years draft (2 at the latest). Keep in mind I'm saying he was poised to be that next year, not that he would have been this year. He needed another year to blow up but he would have been up there. Same player. Worth bringing in. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=378601 Stats Overview Tackles Misc Interceptions YEAR TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFY FF BK INT YDS AVG LNG TD PD 2008 34 24 10 1 0 0 1 0 3 19 6.3 16 0 0 2009 29 24 5 0 0 0 1 0 2 4 2.0 4 0 0 2010 43 33 10 1 0 0 0 0 3 68 22.7 67 1 0 Edited May 1, 2011 by dayman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanInTexas Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Weslye Saunders, TE South Carolina. Talented receiver; Ok blocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted May 1, 2011 Author Share Posted May 1, 2011 Weslye Saunders, TE South Carolina. Talented receiver; Ok blocker I imagine he didn't get drafted because he was dismissed from the team in September. He did not play as a senior and there are serious concerns about his character. He can't block. Other than that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE GUY YELLING BEHIND YOU Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Janoris Jenkins, DB out of UF is the most valuable UDFA there is. He was booted form the team at UF a mere week or so by a new coach looking to make a stand. He was booted for drugs, but it was just weed. It was like his second weed violation and then he got in a little fight 2 entire years ago. Yeah he's no saint, but that's why he's available and he didn't kill anyone or have a cocaine problem (like a certain QB people wanted to draft). The kid was the second CB to start day one as a freshman in school history. He was a freshman all-american. He WAS without a doubt the best player on UF's defense until he was booted, once again by a new coach who looked to crack the whip and establish discipline. Plain and simple if Urban were still at UF he would not have been kicked off (since it wasn't that serious and he was one of Urban's guys), he would be the best player on the D next season, and he would have been a 1st round pick in next years draft (2 at the latest). Keep in mind I'm saying he was poised to be that next year, not that he would have been this year. He needed another year to blow up but he would have been up there. Same player. Worth bringing in. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=378601 Stats Overview Tackles Misc Interceptions YEAR TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFY FF BK INT YDS AVG LNG TD PD 2008 34 24 10 1 0 0 1 0 3 19 6.3 16 0 0 2009 29 24 5 0 0 0 1 0 2 4 2.0 4 0 0 2010 43 33 10 1 0 0 0 0 3 68 22.7 67 1 0 Would he be available for the supplemental draft? He just got booted recentlty. However, his last 2 "just weed" incidents came very close together. I believe one was in January and this past one was 2 weeks ago. He did have a different issue a year ago. Now, that is either stupid or sloppy and before you even think about it, you assess your locker room and determine whether we have strong enough leadership, like that Colorado kid is going to have with Ray Lewis, to tell him...This will not happen again, because you will not cost this football team on the field by your actions. But he may be worth a sniff if he is eligible for the supplemental draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET1062 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Mark Herzlich was a BEAST before getting cancer and was a sure first round pick. He is now cancer free, give him a year to build his body back up and get back into football shape and you have yourself a great football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllsNation Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 DeAndre McDaniel Scott Tolzien John Clay Charlie Gantt Terrence Toliver Lestar Jean DeAndre Brown Orie Lemon Joshua Jasper Pierre Allen this plus Pat Devlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/5/1/2147197/undrafted-free-agent-singings-nfl-draft-2011 Have at it. When we're allowed to, how would you complement what players we've taken? Astro TE, OL, OLB and don't forget to sign more DBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zona Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 i dont think teams can sign UFA's because of the lockout. So, this is a moot discussion. I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beautiful East Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 How about Will Hill? He could both take over from Donte at safety and be even more entertaining on Twitter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPicc2114 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I watched a lot of Mizzou games and Kevin Rutland was a pretty good DB. Hes got good size (About 6ft) and was a pretty solid tackler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted May 1, 2011 Author Share Posted May 1, 2011 From AOL Sportingnews: Top 20 undrafted players 1. Jerrard Tarrant, FS, Georgia Tech Missed the 2009 season after being suspended for rape charges that were later dropped. Has legitimate cover skills and could force his way onto a roster and get playing time thanks to his athletic skills. 2. Mark Herzlich, OLB, Boston College Beat cancer to start in 2010. Herzlich needs more time to regain his explosiveness and speed, but he’s a smart, tough, physical player who shares many qualities with Chiefs linebacker Mike Vrabel. 3. Ian Williams, NT, Notre Dame A three-year starter with experience in both a 3-4 and 4-3 defense, Williams has great character and work ethic. He is a much better run defender than pass rusher at this stage. 4. Owen Spencer, WR, North Carolina State Has great size (6-2, 192 pounds) and length. Good speed (4.55), but not very strong in his run after the catch or tough as a blocker. Does a good job of separating from press. Was a three-year starter for the Wolfpack. 5. Derrick Locke, RB, Kentucky An explosive, big-play threat that fell because of his diminutive stature (5-8 ¼, 187 pounds). Injury-prone. Does have excellent open-field ability. 6. Joe Lefeged, S, Rutgers Lack of production against the run kept him from getting drafted, but he has the speed, acceleration and quickness to become a viable NFL safety and special-teams player. Has the burst needed to close effectively. 7. Jeff Maehl, WR, Oregon Shined in the BCS title game by showing decent speed and toughness. He consistently goes across the middle and takes hits while holding onto the ball. Needs to add some bulk to continue that at the next level. 8. Jamar Newsome, WR, Central Florida Very quick and athletic receiver with good hands. Does not have premier playing speed and lacks size (6-0, 200 pounds). However, showed on film he has what it takes to make it as a slot receiver and returner in the NFL. 9. Terrence Toliver, WR, LSU Great combination of size (6-4, 211 pounds), speed and strength. Struggles with consistency at times and can disappear on film. When engaged, he can dominate his position, especially showing a solid ability to run after the catch. Needs to improve his route running to help create separation. 10. Damien Berry, RB, Miami (Fla.) A first-year starter in 2010 after a brief stint at safety. Highly productive special-teams player. More of a move-the-chains type of back. 11. Kris O’Dowd, C, USC A potential first-round pick last year, but fell this year because he lacks athleticism. What he has is toughness and competitiveness. 12. Jimmy Young, WR, TCU Lacks the explosiveness of TCU teammate Jeremy Kerley, but is a bigger receiver with better strength and deceptive playing speed. Good hands and is a very strong runner after the catch. 13. Ryan Bartholomew, C, Syracuse Very muscular and powerful center who is able to lock and control defensive tackles despite being less than 6-foot-1. Highly productive college player. 14. Justin Boren, G, Ohio State Decent size (6-2, 309 pounds) with strength and toughness. He is not really flexible and struggles with his balance. Should be a backup at all three interior offensive line positions. 15. Jon Cornell, MLB, Mississippi A smart, instinctive linebacker who is constantly around the ball making tackles against the run. Solid in small-area pass coverage, but lacks speed. 16. Anthony Elzy, RB, North Carolina Had three straight 100-yard games before getting hurt. A quick and athletic back with excellent hands and open-field running ability. Potentially a good third-down back. 17. Zac Etheridge, DB, Auburn A neck issue kept Etheridge from going in this year’s draft. He can be an immediate contributor on coverage teams. Has enough skills to eventually crack a starting lineup in the right situation. 18. Will Hill, S, Florida Undrafted because of maturity issues and poor top-end speed. However, he plays faster on film than he did at the Combine and shows the instincts needed to break effectively on plays in front. 19. Alex Linnenkohl, C, Oregon State A three-year starter for the Beavers. He has a square build with shorter arms for the position. Although he has very good initial quickness, he is only a marginal athlete with little upside. Smart and savvy. 20. Pierre Allen, DE, Nebraska A solid prospect with the measurables to be a prototypical defensive end. Gives maxium effort on every snap and could add depth for any 4-3 defense. Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2011-01/2011-nfl-draft/story/best-of-the-rest-top-20-undrafted-players#ixzz1L9Drl4GV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 DeAndre McDaniel Scott Tolzien John Clay Charlie Gantt Terrence Toliver Lestar Jean DeAndre Brown Orie Lemon Joshua Jasper Pierre Allen DeAndre Brown is an interesting story. That guy was awesome as a freshman. Looked like a potential future first rounder and another Marques Colston at the very least. Running under a deep ball which would have been an easy TD and his lower leg just snaps in half. Really felt bad for the guy. Never made it all the way back and apparently has a poor attitude. Big guy with a lot of receiving ability. 18. Will Hill, S, Florida Undrafted because of maturity issues and poor top-end speed. However, he plays faster on film than he did at the Combine and shows the instincts needed to break effectively on plays in front. Undrafted? Sour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Some good players that we could get post lock out, Herzlich, Winterswyk, Burney, Cedrick thorton, Ian Williams,Henery Hynoski (c'mon Dave bring the hammer home), Player Position Height Weight School Ryan Bartholomew C 6'1" 302 Syracuse Alexander Linnenkohl C 6'2" 304 Oregon St. Deunta Williams CB 6'2" 205 North Carolina Niles Brinkley DB 5'10" 193 Wisconsin Kendric Burney DB 5'9" 186 North Carolina Mario Butler DB 6'0" 182 Georgia Tech Vance Cuff DB 5'10" 178 Georgia Joe Lefeged DB 6'0" 210 Rutgers Andrew McGee DB 5'11" 195 Oklahoma St. Kevin Rutland DB 6'0" 190 Missouri David Sims DB 5'9" 200 Iowa St. Devon Torrence DB 6'0" 199 Ohio St. Wayne Daniels DE 6'0" 260 TCU Ladi Ajiboye DL 6'1" 297 South Carolina Pierre Allen DL 6'4" 273 Nebraska Brandon Bair DL 6'6" 276 Oregon Ugo Chinasa DL 6'5" 264 Oklahoma St. Demarcus Dobbs DL 6'2" 281 Georgia Kentrell Lockett DL 6'5" 241 Mississippi Martin Parker DL 6'2" 303 Richmond Adrian Taylor DL 6'3" 311 Oklahoma Cedric Thornton DL 6'3" 309 Southern Arkansas Colby Whitlock DL 6'2" 302 Texas Tech Ian Williams DL 6'1" 319 Notre Dame Ryan Winterswyk DL 6'4" 268 Boise St. John Graves DT 6'3" 286 Virginia Tech Sealver Siliga DT 6'2" 305 Utah Henry Hynoski FB 6'0" 257 Pittsburgh Will Hill FS 6'1" 202 Florida Jerrard Tarrant FS 6'0" 204 Georgia Tech Justin Boren G 6'3" 309 Ohio St. Dan Bailey K 6'0" 193 Oklahoma St. Ryan Donahue K 6'2" 193 Iowa Kai Forbath K 5'11" 197 UCLA Reid Forrest K 6'0" 189 Washington St. Joshua Jasper K 5'10" 174 LSU Jacob Rogers K 6'2" 213 Cincinnati Nick Bellore LB 6'1" 245 Central Michigan Mark Herzlich LB 6'4" 244 Boston College Jeremiha Hunter LB 6'1" 239 Iowa Elijah Joseph LB 6'1" 243 Temple Orie Lemon LB 6'1" 242 Oklahoma St. Scott Lutrus LB 6'2" 241 Connecticut Adrian Moten LB 6'2" 228 Maryland Derrell Smith LB 6'0" 243 Syracuse Daniel Aiken OL 6'4" 244 Virginia Garrett Chisolm OL 6'5" 312 South Carolina Joshua Davis OL 6'7" 313 Georgia Ray Dominguez OL 6'4" 334 Arkansas Adam Grant OL 6'6" 325 Arizona Richard Henry OL 6'3" 308 Nebraska Kyle Hix OL 6'7" 318 Texas Kevin Hughes OL 6'4" 302 Southeast Louisiana Zachary Hurd OL 6'7" 316 Connecticut Carl Johnson OL 6'5" 361 Florida Jarriel King OL 6'5" 317 South Carolina Richard Lapham OL 6'8" 315 Boston College Kristofer O'Dowd OL 6'4" 304 USC Stephen Schilling OL -- -- Michigan Willie Smith OL 6'5" 310 East Carolina Zane Taylor OL 6'3" 309 Utah Isaiah Thompson OL 6'3" 300 Houston Chas Henry P 6'3" 215 Florida Ryan Colburn QB 6'3" 223 Fresno St. Patrick Devlin QB 6'3" 225 Delaware Jerrod Johnson QB 6'5" 251 Texas A&M Joshua Nesbitt QB 6'1" 217 Georgia Tech Joshua Portis QB 6'3" 211 California (PA) Scott Tolzien QB 6'2" 212 Wisconsin Jeff Van Camp QB 6'5" 218 Florida Atlantic Armando Allen RB 5'8" 199 Notre Dame Matt Asiata RB 5'11" 229 Utah Damien Berry RB 5'10" 211 Miami John Clay RB 6'1" 230 Wisconsin Graig Cooper RB 5'10" 205 Miami Noel Devine RB 5'8" 179 West Virginia Shaun Draughn RB 5'11" 213 North Carolina Darren Evans RB 6'0" 227 Virginia Tech Mario Fannin RB 5'10" 231 Auburn Derrick Locke RB 5'8" 188 Kentucky Brandon Saine RB 5'11" 220 Ohio St. Vai Taua RB 5'10" 213 Nevada Jeron Johnson SS 5'10" 212 Boise St. Deandre McDaniel SS 6'0" 217 Clemson Nate Williams SS 6'0" 211 Washington Preston Dial TE 6'3" 237 Alabama Charlie Gantt TE 6'4" 252 Michigan St. Cameron Graham TE 6'3" 244 Louisville Schuylar Oordt TE 6'6" 261 Northern Iowa Zack Pianalto TE 6'3" 256 North Carolina Allen Reisner TE 6'2" 248 Iowa Weslye Saunders TE 6'5" 270 South Carolina Darvin Adams WR 6'2" 190 Auburn Armon Binns WR 6'3" 209 Cincinnati DeAndre Brown WR 6'6" 233 Southern Miss Mark Dell WR 6'0" 193 Michigan St. Tori Gurley WR 6'4" 216 South Carolina Jamel Hamler WR 6'1" 193 Fresno St. Andre Holmes WR 6'4" 210 Hillsdale Lestar Jean WR 6'3" 215 Florida Atlantic Ricardo Lockette WR 6'2" 211 Fort Valley St. Jeffrey Maehl WR 6'1" 190 Oregon Joe Morgan WR 6'1" 189 Walsh O.J. Murdock WR 5'11" 197 Fort Hays St. Jamar Newsome WR 6'1" 200 Central Florida Jock Sanders WR 5'6" 181 West Virginia Dane Sanzenbacher WR 5'11" 182 Ohio St. Keith Smith WR 6'2" 214 Purdue Owen Spencer WR 6'2" 195 N.C. State Terrence Toliver WR 6'4" 212 LSU Terrance Turner WR 6'2" 220 Indiana Marshall Williams WR 6'1" 188 Wake Forest Jimmy Young WR 6'0" 204 TCU http://www.bigblueview.com/2011/5/1/2147453/undrafted-free-agents-which-players-are-still-available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Janoris Jenkins, DB out of UF is the most valuable UDFA there is. He was booted form the team at UF a mere week or so by a new coach looking to make a stand. He was booted for drugs, but it was just weed. It was like his second weed violation and then he got in a little fight 2 entire years ago. Yeah he's no saint, but that's why he's available and he didn't kill anyone or have a cocaine problem (like a certain QB people wanted to draft). The kid was the second CB to start day one as a freshman in school history. He was a freshman all-american. He WAS without a doubt the best player on UF's defense until he was booted, once again by a new coach who looked to crack the whip and establish discipline. Plain and simple if Urban were still at UF he would not have been kicked off (since it wasn't that serious and he was one of Urban's guys), he would be the best player on the D next season, and he would have been a 1st round pick in next years draft (2 at the latest). Keep in mind I'm saying he was poised to be that next year, not that he would have been this year. He needed another year to blow up but he would have been up there. Same player. Worth bringing in. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=378601 Stats Overview Tackles Misc Interceptions YEAR TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFY FF BK INT YDS AVG LNG TD PD 2008 34 24 10 1 0 0 1 0 3 19 6.3 16 0 0 2009 29 24 5 0 0 0 1 0 2 4 2.0 4 0 0 2010 43 33 10 1 0 0 0 0 3 68 22.7 67 1 0 He'd cost a mid round pick next year - supplemental. Seeing his actions, and will hills twitter- I'd stay away from that secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) Locke could be am interesting change of pace back. Since we fattened up on dbs there's really no room to give any of the uda's a chance. Herzlich would be amazing of course, reminds me of Bryce Paup. But even if he ever gets back to playing strength I bet it takes at least 2 years. Edited May 2, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinWPB Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 #4 camp fodder or.......or maybe the best UDFA pickup ever. A shoulder injury which he has not fully recovered from has limited his ability since injury, if he ever gets back to 2009 form ... well just check out the highlights. If he can' t play QB he has the size to play WR or TE too. http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/blog?name=nfl_draft&id=5496051&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fblog%3fname%3dnfl_draft%26id%3d5496051 http://nfldraftmonsters.com/scouting/scouting-report-jerrod-johnson/ http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jerod+johnson+highlights&aq=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 here's the list per NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 i dont think teams can sign UFA's because of the lockout. So, this is a moot discussion. I could be wrong. No, but eventually they will so it is a good discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cincinnati Kid Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I think we'll grab Jarrod Johnson from Texas A&M and Josh Nesbitt from GT. Both mobile guys that Chan likes, and each with the potential to be our Brad Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He isn't listed in the UDFA list, but I know he didn't get drafted. Adam Froman, QB from Louisville was the 4th ranked QB according to Matt Waldman, who wrote for the NY Times draft blog this year. Here is a link to his analysis and video of Froman: NY Times Draft Blog I also like Tori Gurley, who is a big tall WR that Nix has shown to covet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 He'd cost a mid round pick next year - supplemental. Seeing his actions, and will hills twitter- I'd stay away from that secondary. Hill's twitter is insane and he's sort of overrated as a player but Janoris is worth a mid round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Mark Herzlich was a BEAST before getting cancer and was a sure first round pick. He is now cancer free, give him a year to build his body back up and get back into football shape and you have yourself a great football player. Absolutely. I can't believe no one drafted him. ACC Defensive player of the year before cancer, not to mention a stand-up guy and someone we could all root for. I was hoping we'd take him 4th round and can't believe we passed him on the 5th, 6th, and 7th too. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I imagine he didn't get drafted because he was dismissed from the team in September. He did not play as a senior and there are serious concerns about his character. He can't block. Other than that... Saunders is actually a really interesting story...He was suspended for lying twice to the NCAA about two trips he took with his best friend, no other than UNC DT Marvin Austin who was at the center of all the suspensions at North Carolina...Saunders did tell the whole truth the third time around and claims he did nothing wrong, that he paid for both trips himself, but was lying to the NCAA to protect his friends...He did not try to make excuses...But... I love this quote I got from The NFLDRAFTSCOUT.com..."I panicked." Saunders said at the Combine. "There's no excuse for lying. I wasn't truthful and forthcoming. I did hold back on information in the first two interviews. The third time I laid everything out on the table. It felt like they were investigating a murder. It was in the middle of the summer, they put me in a hot room at the Carolina Inn and stuck two tape recorders in front of me for two hours." Anyway, Saunders also broke a bone in his foot and was unable to run at the Combine...Still injured he gutted it out and ran a 4.93 at the SC Pro Day...I'm sure the combination of off-the-field stuff and the injury led to him not being Drafted...Someone will give him a chance...He's got a lot of upside and just based on the quotes I read seems to be a Kid that understands he did wrong...Who knows..he was once considered a big time TE Prospect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted May 2, 2011 Author Share Posted May 2, 2011 I'd like to give Kedric Burney,Kai Forbath, Kris O'Dowd,Noel Devine,Terrance Tolliver, and Weslye Sanders a look. Side Note: is Daniel Aiken from UVA really a 6 foot 4 244 pound OFFENSIVE LINEMAN???? Aiken has put on a pound and is now 245. He's a decent long snapper, but I'd think he'd snap in half with a guy like Kris Jenkins opposite him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) Scott Lutrus Zach Hurd Marc Herzlich What language are you speaking? Is this some sort of slavic profanity? As Crayonz pointed out, we've already drafted two French speakers in Marcel and D'Norris. And as Cam Newton showed, calling plays in English is very difficult. I'm sorry, what was the question again? Edited May 3, 2011 by San Jose Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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