julian

Yeah it’s less about the “out of the league” status and more about how bad those players were as a whole.

10 years is a long time in the NFL

Why is this happening

Nobody needed the all22 to see Allen was off with throws and off with some decisions, yet with that being said when he needed 2 TDs late to win the game he came through. As bad as the offense was, if your defense can’t stop Mac Jones and a bunch of JAGS you probably need to worry more about the D when considering wins going forward.

This is much less about Knox who’s a good player and much more about Kincaid who is obviously a better player and has been since he stepped into the building. It was time to make Kincaid the primary TE target, this just makes the decision much easier for coaches and players who love Knox and are loyal to Knox.

Watch them play the game of football, like the previous 3 head to head matches where Allen was the best player on the field on every occasion. Unfortunately winning titles takes a whole lot more than a QB, the gap between Allen and Mahomes is too small to call it McDermott’s biggest coaching mistake. That only works if you assume the same outcome in two totally different situations, which of course is not logical.

They drafted a QB the following year who has the ability like Mahomes to win multiple championships, unfortunately for Allen McDermott wasn’t Andy Reid and he didn’t have the luxury of the greatest TE of all time and the fastest most lethal non QB weapon in the league. In Hill. Mahomes doesn’t have 2 titles and 2 MVPs under McDermott.

This switching the offense to a more “balanced” attack and wanting Josh Allen to be a pocket passer is to blame. Imagine be blessed a physical talent the likes of which the NFL has never seen at QB and be so pathetically scared of his possible injury that you you design your offense to limit his physical gifts. Its absurd and a fireable offense.

Tua with 3 points in the half and Collingsworth comparing him to Montana can’t make this ***** up

Time to get back to Josh spreading it out in shotgun with RPOs and QB designed runs with Diggs Kincaid Hardy Davis Cook running routes

As much as I want McDermott and Dorsey fired after this game, too early to say with certainty but if this continues we may be talking about a partial rebuild

I’m on board with changes, this could get ugly

100%… I’m as optimistic as the ultra homers for the most part, but this needs big time change. what they’ve done to this offense is unforgivable.

McDermott is a coward who caved to outside pressure to become less reliant on a unicorn QB and worry more about Allen playing in 2030 than in his prime right now. I’m glad I’m not an owner, I’d need people to be put in a locked room for 48 hours before making any changes.

Paying Knox was a disaster, he’s so average and unfortunately you can’t take it back, but you can just accept it and move on and make Kincaid the primary pass catching TE and get back to Josh spreading it out and throwing to the WRs and running when he sees fit. 3 years of the media crying about the Bills lack of run game and Allen will get hurt has finally worn them down and this is a shell of the offense we once enjoyed.

I won’t argue about a guy with 2 titles and 2 MVPs being the best QB in the league, I think those achievements along with the eye test is unparalleled at this point. That being said, when I watch every QB play the game of football, I see Allen doing things on the field of play that no other QBs are capable of. It’s at the point now where I watch Mahomes play and it’s like watching a smaller less athletic version of Allen.

Awesome, thanks brother

Got it, I think QB is obviously in a group of its own and much more predictive of outcome due to injury, maybe other position losses are more difficult to fully judge impact, IDK. The DVOA you cited is very interesting, thanks for your take.

Is it possible the Bills are unlucky in that the players they have lost the last two seasons have been crucial starters compared to other teams ? Im actually asking because I don’t know, it’s not a statement hidden as a question.

Yeah I never thought you were and to be perfectly clear in case it was lost in translation, I don’t think the criticism of any one particular aspect or of the team as a whole is unwarranted. I enjoy reading it to be honest.

Lol brilliant, I’m glad there’s fans micro analyzing every aspect of the franchise’s functionality and decision making, it allows me to just stay off the roller coaster and enjoy the season. I didn’t actually expect anyone to agree on anything, that’s not how it works lol, there’s room for all perspectives.

I tried, carry on

If the Bills roll the Patriots again, can we all agree to stop coming up with reasons why we should be worried prior to playing them in the future.

I tend to agree, even though he did make some promising throws and runs, many people forget that staying healthy is not all about luck. Some athletes are able to absorb physical contact more positively than others. Unknown at this point where Richardson will fall on that spectrum but my feeling is he may need to avoid playing like Allen even though his body type may suggest he can.

Must have been hard for him to not openly celebrate the moment he was being informed of the trade by Jets management.