colin

i mean to write THAT'S MY HOT TAKE, SIMPLE AS.

Our O wasn't prepared and we had no change up that would work. dabol doesn't run the o very well, we just score and move the ball due to talent. THAT'S MY HOT TAKE.

ya, our play calling is simply not getting it done. what's worse, we aren't fooling anyone. we seem to run into a knowing D and pass into a D who knows our line calls and how to exploit them, and we are left with no answer.

coaching, fair or not, is judged by the end results. the end results of our OL is disgusting, and our OL coaching needs very rapid improvement.

ya man, our OL state today, and who they have shipped out of town vs who they kept just shows a bad job up at the top. dawkins, spain, morse, teller, brown, how much better is that then the trash we started the season with?

lol, the cover 1 post game, and i generally really like those guys, were sort of going on to say the penalties weren't he reason why we lost. im not sure if they meant to say the bills played horribly and deserved to lose (true) or if they were trying to not run afoul of the NFL by pointing the finger at the Refs. that said, they showed the 4th and 2 call of false start on us that was actually off sides on the D, a play call that likely would have changed the entire outcome of the game. maybe they have to say that for politics, and then they can show the truth in the program. i will say, and that ref from the NBA who called a couple games for whoever (not a network i don't think) showing the make up calls and favoritism (he's the one who got busted shaving points), makes it clear to me that while the NFL might not be in on some kind of fix, a really low standard of officiating and part time refs not making a whole lot of money is a bit of a vulnerability for gambling/shenanigans.

8 games in, the difference is our D has played way better, and instead of some stinkers and exciting close ones, we have 5 blow out wins and 3 really close (last drive of game in everyone) losses. On O, we are much streakier this season, with way more bouts of just sucking. Interesting stats OP.

the issues we have on O w the line and run game is a mix of coaching and players. the solution at this point, however, can only be coaching, because we ain't getting new players (guys coming back from injury and maybe a bit of a shuffle aside). and even then, selecting who plays on our roster is a coaching call. dabol and our clown OL coaching staff need to really make an impacting change, and fast.

im extra worried about the bills, but i fully expect them to show improve and destroy the jets. im pretty sure mcd is reading the riot act to fatbol on repeat, and the d coaches are telling the D "we are the back bone of the team right now, we have to be perfect".

bro, this is exactly it. we come in w a plan, if the plan doesn't work, we might attempt a lil switcharoo at half time (miami). if that doesn't work, well were fudged. i really think it's because we just don't regularly practice enough bedrock type plays that suit a team identity that we can just run when the fit hits the shan. cover 2 and some 3rd and long blitzes by a garbage team just nuked our O. that combined w how all our scoring the past 2 seasons has been largely a result of diggs, allen, and a couple other guys just being better than everyone else tells me where the biggest issue/easiest fix is.

another part of this is while we take risks and don't play with a formation/line up advantage most of the time, teams are getting pretty good at figuring out what we are calling.

it's in 20/20 hindsight, but a conservative move to take the rope out of the OC and O's hands is to force conservative calls w no non conservative audibles. just basically shoplifting the 3s w a small chance at 7 and nearly no chance of a turnover, but i don't think they did that at all.

we need better talent at OL, but the constantly missing blocks (as in not even attempting to block a free runner) and the way we get schooled by games and stunts makes me think our biggest coaching shortfall is OL.

they're gonna have to change the name to the XXXFL!

in terms of historic significance we can't know until later in the season at the earliest. in terms of where we were, and where the opponents were on the day of the game, yes this is the worst loss and combined w our play vs Tenn, first half miami, and now this game i'd say the odds (for betting) of us being pretenders and falling apart are higher now than us going to the chip. we had the #1 scoring O and D coming into this game (2 teams have ever finished the season with that, both champs) and were the best odds to win the chip as of last week. Jags had not won on american soil since week 1 2020!!! the penalties, the turnovers, the zero rhythm on O, and losing by 3 points all come together for this to be the worst upset of a bills team given expectations coming into the game. sad

apparently i must know? so a fan needs omniscience in order to criticize the coaching for a team w the number one scoring O and D who just lost to the actual worst team in the league? give your head a shake! the point is this was a great opportunity for some HC conservatism, to take the rope away from the OC (who was awful) and go real conservative and kick some 3s and walk away a winner.

lol, i was about to disagree, but you are totally right, we really do. we got that 2 pt conversion vs tenn, so at the end we were down by 3, and we went for it instead of kicking. i understand some people feel like we should have gone for it and all that, but you set yourself up to be down by the kick, and didn't do it. and ya, today they did the same. in a sense, going with some of the plays that put the ball at risk down in the jags end, even while our o had been awful, also showed that. some conservative down and distance turtle play woulda set us up for like 3 more fg attempts, walking away w a 6 point win! lol. i kinda wonder if mccoach understands how to not be conservative without being just balls out aggressive. like, he was way too conservative at times before, and now he seems like he might just bench our punter and kicker!

the more time we have to prep for teams, the worse our O plays in the start (i think some tv guy pointed that out). Pittz, first half of miami, etc. that shows me a coaching staff who just doesn't get the team ready, they don't figure something out to give the o an advantage. while i agree our OL is bad, it is not worse than the 3 back ups the jags had today, who played better than our line vs a better D than theirs. Jax's best OL was out as a surprise, and they just plugged a guy in. that guy is not as good as the starter, he's way worse. we have been sliding OTs to G, started a rookie at OT, and sliding that waste of a roster spot fatty ford in and out. that combined w the fact that we ditched wyatt teller, and to a lesser extent q spain, makes me think our OL coaching doesn't really know what they are doing. people credit dabol for these stats, but how often are our drives rescued by allen just doing some kind of superman thing? basically most of our scoring drives are like that, that's not on coaching, that's just superior talent. the jags ran a blitz heavy scheme mixing in cover 2 and some other wrinkles, and the bills O only ever seemed to call plays that gave the O a very high level of difficulty. remember the cover zero jail break blitz that allen sort of rolled away from (free rusher) and hit beaz for like 3 yards and a first? that to me is an example of how our scheme/coaching/preparation just simply doesn't put our O in an advantage situation, and it's really just our O talent having to perform magic.

allen was pretty much trash yesterday, he said as much. the issue in our o is not allen turning chicken poop into chicken salad every play, he does that too much as it is. the issue is trash OL play and just terrible overall OC scheme. dabol loves to dial up creative stuff and odd formations, but we never find a good rhythm and we just make everything so difficult. we have the best QB/WR combo in the nfl, our overall stats from crushing cans shows that, but our O just friggen disappears way too often. OL talent, OL coaching (i think biggest hole on the team) and our OC's lack of big picture understanding is killing us. both miami games, pittz, and this jags game our O was in complete disarray. That's half the games we have played this year. with the cans we have played, the d getting so many turnovers, and just the talent on O, we have some sick stats, but that's nothing consistent or repeatable, and that's a function of coaching more than anything else. to all those who say it could be or is an execution issue more than a coaching issue: look at our penalties. a lack of discipline comes from the top, and it's gotten to be way too much.

Allen stank, but with a couple exceptions of him scrambling or the ball getting out super fast to a wr who just whipped his man off the line, it seemed like the jags knew our every play. They showed zone, and then jumped beaz cuz our zone beater. Every run was sniffed out they blitzed and had free runners on just about every 3rd and long. Josh was bad, our OL was absolute trash, and dabol is in over his head.

As mentioned above, we need new ol coaching

This is not a well coached team. The d plays hard, but super sloppy with tons of penalties. The O, which was even pointed out by the half time show, has no identity and fatass dabol just dials up silly gimmicks The oline is actually awful, bottom 10 and potentially bottom 5.

id take a flyer on him.

we obviously need to take what is there because our weapons simply cannot be covered consistently, but the oline is not good. With brown out and ford in and williams back at RT, we have a downgrade at two spots in the line.

if we can't get OG (which i really don't see happening in a way where the player gets integrated quickly) or pass rusher, i'd take OBJ if the deal was right. he's a clown but has huge talent and that would be an insane WR corps to recon with.