colin

interesting stats, i think smith was good and mahomes is great, but of course ried and that squad is a big tail wind. wrt allen vs pat last year, i don't think your take is that controversial, i mean that's basically how MVP voting went. do many people argue it?

Honestly, if this just lead to both teams doing what they've done for a little while, which is falling apart in the playoffs in spite of solid QB play, it would make both front offices look clever. I'd say the best move if it's on the table.

well, anyone who followed mccoach in philly or carolina knows he likes his coverage to be sound and dependable, and his line to be deep, fresh, and agile mobile and hostile. they have thrown the kitchen sink at the DL since they (he and bean) got here. first pick of the last 3 drafts have been DL, and a few more above that, as well as some bigger FA contracts. it will pay off at some point, I think by game 10 or so of the 2021 season. one thing i think we can take to the bank, if we have a D like 2 years ago and an O like last year, the chip is ours to lose.

i've taken a dump on knox plenty of times, as it stands right now he's simply not an effective player from the tight end position. an average NFL starting TE would have been a huge help in the KC game, an above average TE and above average nfl RB in that game mighta given us a snowballs chance of winning that game. part of knox's problem tho, is he is a great individual athlete who came out raw and has essentially been the best TE on the roster the whole time he's been on the team. that's a problem schematically and for his development. dabol must go back to his NE roots and have our O take better advantage of the opponents weaknesses and mix in some more quick hitting plays where targets underneath get the ball quickly, or our RBs get good carries into passing Ds. imo he's a bit in love w Josh's limitless talent and we put the whole team on his shoulders too much. if knox can show some consistency, i think dabo will do his part and we can play the game from an advantage position much more.

i share the frustration w other bills fans w our run D and the often general lack of physicality, but star was a high pick, and rated as one of the top talents on most draft boards, and our HC who was his DC in carolina did opt to go get him, so it kinda makes sense that he can play football. i hope he and our new rookies set the tone as a bigger more fisticuffs inspiring DL this year.

i agree with the thrust of you post, but would like to add that diggs rarely has circus catches because he does all the little things up to and as the ball is in the air so well he makes the play easier for himself, and harder for defenders. it's a pleasure to watch. I suppose the downside of that is because he is not huge or super fast he can be "taken out" with outstanding double coverage (contrast that with terrell owens, who ran every route at full speed and often looked like he might fall over out of his breaks. it lead to him dropping some balls because of how hard he was working, but it made him more or less uncoverable). The upside is that he's super reliable, and if he's dinged up or as he gets older, smooth precise play is the last thing to fade for a WR (besides height obviously), so he can be a top producer for a while.

LOOOOOL, that was awesome!

imo allen's largest flaw at the moment as a qb is his nerves. like favre before him, he plays with such juice that at times he can get tight or force things, we saw that in the KC games and the houston game in the prior playoffs. crowd noise will play into that, but it kinda seems like he's a bit more in control (for the most part) on the road, likely because he doesn't put the same pressure on himself to perform for the home audience. if he has full control of his mental and physical being on the pitch in year 4, it is going to be something else to watch.

i hope he shapes up and plays better, but the FO didn't draft moss w a 3rd after drafting singletary w a 3rd the year before because they think motor can't be improved upon. you can say the same for AJE. all those guys are on notice. good for the team tho.

I think this guy is actually correct that Groot didn't get a lot of shine from any kind of one on one pass rush, or dipping and bending around to the passer. The thing is, our dl last year has a near the top pass rush win rate, and we didn't disrupt the passer anywhere nearly enough. St some point, somebody has to finish the play. Imo, that's what both of our first two picks show ab ability to do, Groot with what looks like the greater upside and pass rush, boogie with being stout and cleaning up the run and such. Big long with a sick get off and good instinct (cuz he barely knows how to play the position at this point in his career) are some serious traits for a DE, and I think he can ride that, along w the strong depth we have at dl (even though no one really stands out) giving him lessons, competition, and perhaps most importantly physical and mental relief as he rotates in.

its' a crap shoot, but i agree w people who say boogie is going to pay dividends earlier than groot. if all of that potential can be put into practice, groot could end up being a good player i think. my main hope is that both of these guys can be used to steal away angles between gaps so our LBs are just heat seaking instead of sifting through blocks

ok, i stand corrected about the only one, but i still think they have a much more complete roster than most teams, including the bills. if wentz comes back to form i think the bills would need to be a better team than they were last year to beat them.

because no body is perfect. look at the team stats, w old man rivers at qb they were the only team in the playoffs w a top 10 O and top 10 D, and they gave us a real good shot, but josh allen pulled off a miracle and the D finally made a second half stop. KC has a sick roster, but it's stars and then just whoever everywhere else on the roster. indy has more breadth than anyone else, that's how it makes sense.

wentz looked like a guy with his one foot out of the nfl last year, but if reich can get him to play well, the colts really do have the most complete roster in the NFL. maybe less super star individuals, but just outstanding linemen, linebackers, solid RB and TE, decent WR, can cover some (perhaps their real weakness), and a really smart coach w a balanced game plan. i really hope the big super talent rookies we drafted will gel enough so that by the playoffs they can be weapons so we can impose a little will on teams like the colts and win it walking away once we are up large in the 2nd half.

when he fell to the 2nd, i was so hopeful we'd draft him. i bot the line on ford tho, thought/hoped he'd be the deathstar at OG or RT. i think our FO has positions they care about, and positions they don't wrt draft capital and max potential. w the exception of gabe davis, knox (lol), and the two RBs that everyone didn't feel too good about at the end of last season, all of our skill position talent, and clearly our best guys and a strength of the team, are FA or trades.

i remember reading over some post, on some carolina thing that linked to a philly site, talking about mcd D. basically, his blue print is he looks for steady smart players in the back 7, with more sort of freak talent closer to the ball, and more emphasis on skills as you move out further. the lynch pin of the whole thing is the DL. every place he's been he's had success, and in ever instance it came from rotating in like 7-10 deep DL players who can follow his schemes to create pressure in a disciplined manor and mess up the run game enough for his back 7 to be heat seeking missiles. we had that in 19, and mcd had that everywhere else he went. with the big spending last year (on duds, sadly) and the draft picks this year, and the attempt to sign watt all tell me he is simply not happy w what is DL looked like last season. we all dump on edmunds, but i remember watching the cover 1 breakdown of the afc chip game, and there were 3rd down plays and big run gainers where the interior DL just straight up took the wrong gap making the near impossible job of our MLB totally impossible. as for coverage, i think a young guy on the roster is gonna be cb2, and there rest is solid if lacking depth. on O, it's safe to say that our brain trust thinks tackles and C are important, with C being a big step back from OT, and Gs are kinda just guys. we are returning one of the better pass blocking OT tandums in the nfl, and threw 2 draft picks on athletic freak project OTs. i just hope w everyone returning hopefully one of our TEs and RBs wake up and see the opportunity of just stealing yards form NFL D's who are hell bent on stopping the pass in front of them. at some point, one of these young guys just has to step up and make themselves indefensible. that quick RB we signed could make himself a hero by ripping off some strong runs while staring down a 6 man box.

lol, going through the teams that need qb, texans popped into my head, but lol.

so, arguing about if rogers is a baby or the goat who was hard done by, can this even happen? anyone got an insight as to what team might end up going for him? although it won't ever happen, i think if he went to cleveland they'd be a top 3 team to win the chip this year.

i don't really have a strong opinion on this, did gb f up or is rogers a baby? could be both! i gotta say tho, i'm liking the holy war going on in this thread! i really don't get how people get so passionate about players and teams who aren't the bills. if they aren't the group you have a rooting interest in, i just can't see how someone cares. good bantz tho! i dunno dude, i figure they are just really conservative and don't want to lose rogers, and based on what i've read it seems like he's always whining and aching over something, so maybe they thought this would pass. they kept rogers on the pine for a couple few seasons w favre as the starter, and then he came on like gangbusters.

not sure what kind of draft capital it's gonna take to get rogers, but it would be a huge haul. if rogers leaves, and the new picks power up GB to go get another chip, and that new qb looks good, that franchise really has to be considered the greatest/luckiest ever.

i wasn't aware of that on the cap, although i suspect the inside expectations are much higher (see cowboys paying dak). also, i was talking about teams who pay the 5th year option but let the guy walk after. i was wondering how common that was.

dude, i take a dump on edmunds fairly often, but this is very true. what kinda changed my mind a bit (from like maybe to let's give it a shot anyhow) was his interviews at the end of the season. he was really critical of himself. not eeor style down in the dumps, but reflective and just not satisfied. given his age and obvious talent, and his absolute no excuse for himself (a season when the team went to the afc chip game and he was hurt too boot) mentality makes me think he will leave no stone unturned in trying to be the best he can

for a low enough pick, or as pointed above an excess player and really low pick, i'd do it. we have what, 2 TEs on the roster who played at all last year?

i think with the guys to come off the books and the new replacements we just drafted who will be dirt cheap, we have enough cap to just pay edmunds his option next year. to not pay it would be to create a hole, not smart when you think you are in a prime window for a chip. given how flippin young dude is, i really think the bills are making him earn his second contract through all 5 years. if he shows just insane consistent play this season then yah, he gets an early extension, but if his next two years are like his last two years (some good, some regression, some pretty bad) then i bet he walks after year 5. does anyone have stats on how often a 1st pick is extended to year 5, but then not resigned by his drafting team? i think we did that w gilmore, but i think it's not that common.

agree with ethan in crazy town, unless he straight unsat milano (and how much of an upgrade could he possibly be in his first year? might not even be better tbh) he'd play a few snaps as our like dime linebacker, which means we'd be a modified 4-2 in dime, and we are a straight 4-2 in base, so we'd have to take other starters off the pitch. he's a good looking player, assuming he can do it i suppose he could be like the honey badger kid from lsu, but i think he's more of a close to the line guy, and would still be making a position change.