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no way, they are balling today. They absolutely need the two seed and they absolutely want to get Josh an MVP or do their best to help him there.

Kind of predictable that WNY weather the last 2 weeks maybe putting the kibosh on Allen’s stats and MVP push. Let’s see if he can overcome it.

Checking the Chiefs board it seems to be split on whether they should root to beat Denver to eliminate them. Or tank the game on purpose to eliminate Cincinnati. The smart posters say to start no one of importance and lose, thereby eliminating maybe the best QB,WR, WR combination in the league that gives KC fits. The dumb ones say they’re not scared of anyone and they hate Denver so get rid of them.

listening to some of the sports shows this morning while driving around they all picked the Bills in a romp. I hope Buffalo can prove them right.

There's some weather guys here...where's all the rain coming from for tomorrow? There's nothing major on the radar tonight anywhere near WNY so I assume it hasn't formed yet?

Maye did not resemble a top rookie QB today. I'm sure he will have better days but I didn't see much special today.

I don't disagree, but McD was pissed after the game. I'm sure vanilla was the gameplan, but they did not execute it anywhere close to what he probably expected. To have to field an on-sides kick at the end to hold off the awful Patriots looks pretty bad today.

For me, it's all of the above as well. If you choose to go vanilla, then you still have to execute, and they didn't. You just get the sense sometimes that when the Bills start to "feel" themselves and read the press clippings, they play as if they can roll out of bed at home in front of the Mafia and get an automatic W. And we saw that against the Pats in the first half. If they want to take week 18 off against NE that's fine, as long as they put out max effort against the Jets.

Man, watching the Chargers annilhilate the Pats today really hits home how much the Bills played around last week and did not take that game seriously. That needs to be cleaned up vs the NYJ.

Yep. And the LAC aren't going anywhere in the playoffs running, it will be up to Herbert to carry them.

I don't know who's in and who's out on the Jets DLine, but i think this will be a 180+ rushing day for the Bills. Maybe that includes a Josh tush-push or two. I really think the Bills take it to the Jets tomorrow, just not sure how impressive Allen will be. He should do Ok, there's no need to take risky shots downfield in lousy rain but he will probably take a few.

If the Oline can dominate the trenches, I think Buffalo can run and pass well enough in the rain to win going away. Allen could prob take off and scramble/slide more than a few times. If he wants to just stand still in the pocket and throw, i honestly don't think that's his strength. When he's on, he's moving, extending plays and creating stuff.

Pats stink, what the hell were we doing last week?

It's *Only* if he breaks the record that he will be back in play. If he falls one yard short he has zero shot. I don't think he gets it, not if the Eagles care about their playoff run. The only voter I've heard consistently on TV is Acho. He's been very measured and rational. Many of these other tv guys spouting off are overly emotional and have personal agendas to root for certain guy(s). I don't think they represent the majority of the voters.

Jeez Maye and Christian Gonzalez already head knocked hard in this game. Herbert reminding everyone why you don't want to play him in the 1st round.

I agree but I'd make a bet that if he sets the rushing record he has a real shot to win MVP.

Voters may be hoping that Saquon breaks the record. That would be a good excuse to not vote for Allen.... or Lamar for a 3rd time. With the Eagles locked in to their division title and also keeping Hurts out, seems kinda nuts to run him more than a handful of times. Maybe they hope he can break a long run or two.

They need to script something to get Allen and the offense off to a fast start. Too many home games where they go 3 and out right out of the gate and it messes up the entire first Qtr possession time (examples this season: Arizona, Tenn, Miami, SF, NE). Yes, they usually get it together and sometimes roll, but in a game to seal up the 2 seed they should try to put the weakened Jets away quickly if the Bills are what we think they are.

What Kansas City did to the Steelers in Pittsburgh's stadium delegitimized them as any kind serious contender. They were easily handled by the Chiefs. Houston also got terribly injured at KC the week earlier. Baltimore beat up two teams (Steelers and Texans) that are hemorrhaging at the worst time. I'm not discrediting the Ravens, they still had to win those games but to beat the Giants, Steelers and Houston in these last 3 games is not equivalent to winning at Detroit and vs KC. Not even close.

Been to some very cold and also rainy games. but for whatever reason i remember the (1980’s?) game vs the Pats when the garbage bags were blowing around it was so windy. Like 50+ gusts. It was hard to sit and watch

Damn RIP Greg. very sad. guys disappear from the public eye and next thing you know they are very sick or dead. We are zipping through our lives fast.

I think it matters to a lot of us for various reasons. Bills fans want him to be recognized with the highest individual honor in the NFL. It would be a ticket to the HOF without any question. He deserves it not just for this season but for his body of work and offensive production (records) over the past several years. Lamar is not 3 MVP’s to Zero better than Josh. I also want Allen to leave Buffalo someday with hardware. The Lombardi is what we all want but the MVP is a nice consolation prize for him and the organization. Who knows if Josh will be this close again? maybe next season Mahomes goes off again, then Burrow makes a run… or Jayden Daniels, Goff, Lamar again, etc. He’s so close now, just needs a decent game and win vs the Jets.

Lamar's last 3 games against the Giants, Steelers and Houston have been excellent, but they are not better than Allen's big National TV games against KC, SF, LAR and Det where he did all sorts of "alien" stuff. The game vs New England in the freezing cold, where the Bills offense struggled seems to have flipped the entire script, even though Buffalo won. I don't know, it's all very strange the way the Loudest voices are screaming for Lamar and everyone has sort of gone quiet about Allen.

I just want to get to that game. If the Bills struggle this Sunday i will be more nervous about the round 1 matchup than I already am.

That's not happening. But if they find a reason to not give it to Allen i think they bypass Lamar as well and award Saquon, Goff or even Darnold. That would shut everyone up I think. One thing for sure, Allen has to hold serve this weekend and win the game.