Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

Thought I read awhile back they can pick it up, but if he doesn't step up this season can just as easily still cut him after this year?

I'm wondering if Fisher will also be used as a backup tackle and will practice some with O-line. To me if that is the case he has a higher likely hood of making the team. I'd have thought they'd sign/draft one good receiving TE, so far signed two good blockers, Croom isn't a bad receiver based on his experience, but not a true TE. Assuming they still draft or sign J Cook that gives them their true TE receiving threat so unless it turns out Fisher is a better receiving threat than Croom, can see Fisher getting cut unless he's also viewed as backup tackle and maybe even as the OP asked FB too.

I'm not a big college follower, do watch most SU games on TV, was wondering about the QB there, can't recall his name, Nunes is it. Any idea what round he's expected to go? Seems I recall watching one of his games and announcing talking liek they thought he'd be drafted at some point.

Really doubt they will stay #2 overall when only starting 10 guys! Wait if they start 10 on D can they go with 12 on offense??

I don't care what your job is CEO of a Fortune 500 company, NFL GM, or a ditch digger, there will always be parts of everyone's job that they enjoy more than other parts and tend to do a better job at that part, it's the fun part. For Whaley, I too think it was the scouting part, which may have caused the business part to suffer as a result and not get as much attention as needed. Always thought that was true of John Butler too. he enjoyed the scouting part and tended to often over pay for players as he didn't have the time or desire to spend on the negotiation part.

So if the Bills never signed another player this year their rollover would be $33 mil, plus the yearly adjustment??

So whats the difference between adjusted and maximum salary cap? I'd have expected 2020 to be a larger number than 2019, so am guessing by the time next spring rolls around the adjusted 2020 cap will maybe add $20 mil or so on top??

Unless they sign Jared Cook, he'd maybe be the one exception, I'd prefer them fill their typical 3rd TE slot via the draft.

Currently the team has 2 TE's on the roster, the new guy and Croom, teams typically carry 3 so if you sign Eifert, you're at three. I'd rather see them draft a TE and go with the two they have now. At least Croom has stayed healthy and is likely no matter how much of a prove it deal it is, still much cheaper option and for the past two years has had better stats. Infact when looking at his career stats, there was only one year Eifert was really good.

Both Ike and if Teller were listed have statistics based on rookie play. They both have ample room to show improvement, will they who know. Thought I saw earlier in the week stats that showed Long below average as a center, but above as a guard. And the reason for the below average center ratings were partly due to bad snaps, which can be hard to do with a bad injured thumb. Plus put three above average guys out there, and all of a sudden those playing next to them look better too. Adding in the nine listed plus Teller and that guy Sirius something leaves them with at least 11 lineman, teams usually go with 9 though a couple may end up on practice squad. I think they will still use a 2nd or 3rd rounder on a lineman too.

Well since you believe he would have made all pro again, that makes all the difference with your expert credibility, which BTW also is backed up by no data other than the couple of Bills, you mention. What about the rest of the league. The Redskins over the past 20 years or so are one of the best teams to look at to make the authors point. I didn't bother mentioning Mario as I'd think he helps prove the authors point, 6 year contract, one good year, and even if Rex didn't ruin him, it still took him until the 3rd year of his contract to have that good of a year. BTW I do recall many post the first couple of years Mario was here, reading what a waste of money he was in signing him and even after the 4 years were up and he was gone, the posts saying he was a bad signing far outweighed the ones who felt the signing was good. As far as me going hard on it, you replied to my post stating that I'm wrong and the Greg Laundry is wrong who I think has a hell of a lot more credibility than you do. So if I'm a waste of time, why did you reply with no data either to back it up other than 3 Bills, in which none really dispute Laundry's position. (I must have missed Robert Woods making all pro)

As far as Mario goes, he signed the highest contract in NFL history for a defensive player, made all pro one time. Thanks for mentioning him, guess Mario does prove the authors point of the 85% failure part. Or do you consider being the highest paid defensive player in league history and making all pro 1 time show success. I will agree, Rex caused his stats and play to drop way off, but he didn't go to Miami and have much success either. IMO if you look at the top 50 players signed in FA each season based on contract value, then I'd think that 85% is a pretty accurate number. If you look at the total number of players yes likely more than 20% are successful signings because the lower paid ones do more work out. And will agree our FO of late has been more successful as they haven't signed many of the top $$ players. Authors may pull numbers out of their head without looking at any data, but that's OK when they have alot of experience in the field The authors source is himself as he does this type of thing for a living. Did he literally mean 85% probably not, the point was there;s a pretty high rate of failure looking at top paid free agents. What credibility do you have to dispute him other than posting on a fan message board?

He never said 85% failure, he said 80 to 85% bad value proposition, big difference. If these guys were signed to reasonable contracts, it would be fine, but in particular the first couple of days of FA, many are over paid.

OK I'll counter Gilmore and Woods with Clay, Mario, Percy Harvens, seems I can recall a long list of lineman signed by the Bills who were flops Look at the numbers from the 31 other teams in the league and also the ones that didn't work out. Granted a team that's been losing for years certainly the numbers are going to be much lower. On a league wide basis, I'd think that 85% number isn't bad. How many players have left NE over maybe the past 10 years and have done much better on their new team.

I think that sounds about right. Based on what he said: The people who know him best—decided that his projected production will NOT match the price of his contract demands. And if the team that knows the player better than anyone else is taking a pass, you must give that some deep thought. The majority of the really good ones are kept and resigned. I recall Marv Levy one saying something along the same line; "Free Agents typically hurt the team they are leaving more than they help the team they are going too."

And you just assume which side it the truth. Here's another just as likely take infact I'd argue more likely. Buffalo didn't want to re-do his contract or at least not anywhere to the level of money the Raiders gave him. Then could say Beane spurned AB.

Well if it's dinner in Calif, must be having avocado and guacamole or something similar.

Kind of surprised Jared Cook is still unsigned, unless he' just asking way more thn anyone wants to pay including Buffalo.

In the past ten seasons they won more than 6 games only four times, twice 9, once 8, and once 7. Last year they won 6. It's not like they were winning 10 or 11 games and dropped to 6 wins. Looking at the past 5 they went 9, 8, 7, 9, 6. Other than the year they made the playoffs, they were getting worse. Don't know how you came to the conclusion you came too?? ??

It's 12:30 in the afternoon now. No signings announced today yet! What's Beane doing, out playing golf? What a deplorable front office!!

If you're keeping McCoy for another year to me a better option than Johnson would be draft 2nd to 3rd round rookie. You could likely get as good production from a rookie as Johnson. I think WR is one of the hardest and longest positions for rookies to develop at, where as RB is the fastest.

What if BPA available at 9 is a QB, do you take him too? When was the last time you've heard a team come out after the draft and state, "We didn't get the guy we really wanted, but wer'e happy with who we got instead" Instead all you ever hear is "he's the guy we wanted all along!" Likely the difference in grading between the 9th best and maybe the 15th best is so slight, one scout just grading ever so slightly different could probably bump a guy from 15 to 10 in the blink of an eye. Do teams even truly have a definitive order or do they group players together, these are our top 5, then the next five, and so on. But you'll here he was the BPA whomever it is. When you get below the 4th round or so, then BPA is more important as at that point, very little idea anymore if the person will even still be in the league in 3 years. In the 1st couple of rounds you want someone who'll work out for the team, and also be able to become a major contributor early on.

Maybe in the last 20 years it's changed but typically military aircraft have lower factor of safety than commercial, so unless you're going to completely gut and re-do everything including structural, would you really want to be flying on that? Less weight makes them faster.

They certainly have filled many spots thru FA, but as has been pointed out, most contracts can walk away from in 1 to 2 years with little pain. That being said makes me feel they'll need to fill slots through the draft now so they are ready to be big contributors in 1 to 2 years. Therefore would rather see them trade down or stay at 9, but not move up.

You really want to make that statement within 24 hours of OBJ being traded after signing a big extension just last year?