Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

I nominate Dick Jauron and Chan Gailey for the task!

Yeah but look at what happened in the Denver game. Watched another game over the weekend, (may have been a college game) team lined up for FG just before ball was snapped, TO called, still snapped the ball kicker kicked it and made FG for practice. Now kicks the 2nd one for real and misses so never know. Granted in this case TO was called way prior.

If you're talking about he FG at the end, believe the clock was already stopped. While I'm not absolving McD of all the issues, posts like this are comical in that people who call themselves fans and post all these facts, didn't even know the clock was stopped. Do wonder about all the holding calls on both offense and defense. Some of them by all players not just the Bills are so obvious, why are they doing it. Is it that the players all know, officials allow holding, but just never sure how far they will allow it. And varies so much from crew to crew and even play to play as to what the allowed level is at the moment.

Certainly having a QB of Allen's capability, makes the range of error much larger in who you might choose, though that's kind of what we have now too. McD has made the playoffs and had a significant winning record in 5 of the 6 (maybe 7) years he's been here Certainly would go for an offensive minded coach, person may be great with the X's and O's but doesn't always translate to being a good HC. So there is still a risk. The other question then is who's going to do the interviewing. Assuming Pegula keeps Beane, likely would fall on him. In fairness to him, he's never hired a HC before, likely never even interviewed one. Maybe he participated in the process when the Panthers fired Rivera and hired the next guy?? If you also axed Beane, makes it even tougher. Makes it tricky and a crap shoot to some level on who you hire. I suppose Pegula could talk to his good buddy JJ for advise. Also have to wonder a bit if Pegula's major focus these days is taking care of his wife and may not want to deal with any of this and keep McD around for another year with promises from him of major staff and roster changes.

Good news is they are mostly all young except Morse so should/could be around for awhile. Not sure too if replacing Morse with Bates would be much of a drop either if Morse were to retire or they made big changes in off season and let Morse go for cap reasons.

Yeah I'd agree too, it's not been a season long thing,. more just past few games. Agree too don't understand why they took him out. Admittedly I didn't see what he did on the play prior, maybe he just ran 50 yards downfield??

Did Bass struggle last season? don't recall it? Was thinking could it be the holder?

This is the exact reason why I wouldn't fire McD now. Too often when teams make an in-season fire and bring in an interim guy, the change helps and the team wins. But rarely is that guy ever the real answer. But now you're caught up by the fact this guy did win a few games and team looked better and you hire him, most often ends up being a mistake. For that reason if you're going to fire him, I'd wait till year end to do so, then you have a choice of anyone you want. And as you said it is a desirable spot. At this point too, team needs to do more than get a new HC, need to replace a number of players, both safeties, a CB, sign Jones or another run stopping DT, WR#2 and maybe #3? maybe a center. If you hire Brady, likely much of the coaching staff will stay intact too and less likely to make larger changes that are needed for the long term..

Really not in any way an indictment on Pegula. 75% of the coaches that are hired never make it beyond their 1st contract. So Pegula would just join a long list of other owners that are not able to predict the future and hire the wrong guy. So yes a likely better than 50/50 he hires the wrong guy, but that's just normal in the NFL

Have to wonder if Torrence sticking his arm up right before the snap is causing Brown to be real close to jumping early. IMO there's been a few plays where was borderline whether they could have called Brown for jumping.

Wonder is that on Brady or is that a McD choice? I'm sure they both talked, but which one initially had the idea?

Agree! The difference being from everything I read, Elam's injury was relatively minor compared to some of these others. White, Doyle, and Hines, all season ending. Milano, Jones, and Harris has a likely small chance of coming back this year.

So do they too have slots for debit cards today?

I'm more surprised that a kicker has 19!

Can recall when I was a little kid my father talking about someday you'll have to pay to watch TV and the coin slot is kind of what I thought he meant. I'm not sure if at the time he was actually talking about cable or something else, but certainly have gone to a pay model.

I wouldn't take less than a 2nd rounder.

Did he recover a fumble no, the rest, I don't know did he? Could argue that he was more instrumental in that they won. And he has a bigger name too. With him having 2 Int's it's hard to claim it's a rigged election is my point when viewing it.

Must have been a slow week for ST. Ramsey did also have two int's so is a legit debate. I'd like to see who came in 2nd, but can't find where they publish that.

Agree, but not anymore pampered than the rest of the population. It has nothing to do with football players, it's just like in general

Reading through this thread, people ripping the coaching staff for not using Hines more last year. The issue was right after the signed Hines, Allen got hurt, then the 1st blizzard happened which canceled a couple of practices. Recall reading article in early December saying that up till that point, Hines and Allen had only been able to practice together like 2 times. That to me was the biggest issue with not using him much as a RB.

Don't see how this changes anything. The way I view it, every potential infraction can be viewed on a scale of 1 to 10. Some refs may call a PI or def holding at a 2 level and another only at a 4 level. Eliminating the ticky tack as you suggest would just move the bar up, but won't really change the subjectivity of calls. Add to that within a year or two of changing the standards, once everyone adjusts the same arguments will prevail, just at a higher level of what's an infraction and what isn't. To me the issue is the players have just got too big and too fast for officials to be able to deal with it consistently.

Would these stats somehow take into account the fact that the defense was often in bad field position to due to a turnover by the offense? Much tougher job for the defense when they are coming on the field on their own 35 yard line because of an int. It is funny how here the first 4 weeks many were praising the defense and McD. Then they have all the injuries, struggling and now it's McD's fault. Yes injuries happen to all teams, but when 3 of your probably 5 best players are out, plus throw in Poyer and Oliver for a game each, not surprising they struggle.

Seems like Beane has a planned tendency top draft players based on potential more than other teams do. As a result of this it often takes longer for the player to start to showcase himself. That's a real problem here on TBD as most here have little to no patience for that. We need them to become stars right away. Factoring in injuries often extends the timeline even longer. There are risks in doing that because some never develop as thought like Edmunds. Others Knox AJ, Brown, even Oliver took longer than hoped for.

Article in the Athletic lists possible new head Coaches for Syracuse and lists ole Dougie as a possibility on a fairly long list of names. Not exactly Bills news, but as an ex Bills HC I'm sure he'd be in the western NY new much more if they did hire him and we post about Daboll and others like they are still here. Saints offensive line coach Doug Marrone, 59, played and coached at Syracuse. Marrone was the Orange head coach from 2009 to ’12 and did pretty well, twice posting eight-win seasons before leaving to become the Bills’ head coach. He was 25-25 at Syracuse and knows what it takes to win there. He’s also not that far removed from coaching in college, having spent the 2021 season as Alabama’s offensive line coach.

Good chance Douglas wins defensive player of the week with 2 Int and fumble recovery.