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Dan Orlovsky had a scathing review of Josh Allen.

Can't stand the skinny numbers, not to mention the font is ugly.

PFF chart also posted in the other Allen thread. Yikes.

These charts are courtesy of PFF.

Let's put things into perspective... Boise State Passing Player School Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate Josh Allen Wyoming 12 27 44.4 131 4.9 2.3 1 2 82.6 Hawaii Passing Player School Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate Josh Allen Wyoming 9 19 47.4 92 4.8 5.9 1 0 105.4 Colorado State Passing Player School Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate Josh Allen Wyoming 10 20 50.0 138 6.9 6.9 0 0 108.0 Ohio State Passing Player School Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate Baker Mayfield Oklahoma 27 35 77.1 386 11.0 12.7 3 0 198.1 TCU Passing Player School Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate Baker Mayfield Oklahoma 15 23 65.2 243 10.6 14.0 4 0 211.4 Georgia Passing Player School Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate Baker Mayfield Oklahoma 23 35 65.7 287 8.2 8.1 2 1 147.7 I mean, what are we really talking about??

Haha, I see potential for both a negative AND positive argument. Prior to that point, he blasted each logo with precision, no missteps. What was it about seeing the Bills logo that made him hiccup? Not only once, but TWICE? The Bills gotta be on his mind...

Has someone shared this video already? He only missed one target... Baker Mayfield's pinpoint accuracy

This is a couple years old, but in the spirit of April Fool's, as well as how hot of a topic the QB position has been, here's a prank on Michael Vick that warrants a few laughs... Nephew Tommy Michael Vick Prank

Is a calculator allowed? I'd like to see what Rudolph scored. Have you guys seen his recall at Mariucci's white board? Very impressive. Mason Rudolph at the whiteboard with Steve Mariucci Interview session starts at 02:30

Passing Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate Career Miami (OH) 854 1304 65.5 10829 8.3 8.4 84 34 151.3 2001 Miami (OH) MAC FR QB 12 241 381 63.3 3105 8.1 7.9 25 13 146.5 2002 Miami (OH) MAC SO QB 12 271 428 63.3 3238 7.6 7.4 22 11 138.7 *2003 Miami (OH) MAC JR QB 14 342 495 69.1 4486 9.1 9.6 37 10 165.8 Passing Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate Career Wyoming 365 649 56.2 5066 7.8 7.7 44 21 137.7 2015 Wyoming MWC SO QB 2 4 6 66.7 51 8.5 8.5 0 0 138.1 *2016 Wyoming MWC SO QB 14 209 373 56.0 3203 8.6 8.3 28 15 144.9 *2017 Wyoming MWC JR QB 11 152 270 56.3 1812 6.7 6.9 16 6 127.8 It's probably a bit unfair to compare Allen to Roethlisberger. He has the size, yes, but nowhere close to the same processor upstairs.

He didn't run at the combine either. I don't think he wants that aspect of his game to wow the scouts. Also interesting to note: according to Mayock, teams are having trouble reaching him. They want to sit down and get him on the white board, but are having trouble in their efforts to know him. I also remember Lamar's interview where he stated he didn't want to speak after winning the Heisman. Seems like an overly shy guy and I don't think any of this pre-draft stuff appeals to him.

This article didn't do him any favors... Josh Rosen's preference It probably came from his earlier comments. He later came out and refuted that report.

For the sake of the Cleveland Brown's organization, as well as their loyal fanbase, I really, really, really hope they don't take Allen. Let the Jets screw up the pick!

I went back and looked at the 1985 NFL Draft, didn't realize the team was also in dire need of wide receivers. They selected three that year. Rather than drafting CB Derrick Burroughs at 14, I wonder what it was they didn't like about that receiver from Mississippi Valley St who went 16th to the 49ers? Can you imagine if Rice was selected at 14 and Reed was also picked in the 4th round? Wow. But every one of these drafts are filled with epic misses. If only I had a time machine...

It's funny how people are ready to give up the 12th, 22nd, 53rd, 56th, 65th, and another 2019 first round pick for Josh Rosen, but can't stomach the idea of giving up the 22nd pick alone for a QB who was just named the Superbowl MVP. To be clear, I'm not advocating giving up the 22nd pick for a player who will be a UFA next year, but I also don't want to pay a king's ransom on a QB from this particular draft. I'm just smiling at how tantalizing the unknown seems to be for some of you folks.

Would've liked to see the two UGA RBs on that list, specifically Michele.

Pro Football Focus had him rated as the 50th best tackle and a grade of "poor." https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/jared-veldheer/5594 For comparison's sake, Jordan Mills is rated as the 43rd best tackle and a grade of "below average."

To be fair, Stafford played in the toughest football conference - the SEC - and his completion percentage, yards per attempt, and TDs increased every year. He threw for over 60% his final season.

I suspect Newton would've looked like a varsity QB playing with and against junior varsity players.

Scary schedule right there. You're making excuses for the kid. He played ho hum against lesser competition and like absolute garbage when he faced power 5 teams. I can't tell you for certain if he'll work out in the National Football League, no one can, but history suggests he won't.

Did you also watch the numerous times he bailed from a clean pocket? For argument's sake, let's put another QB in Allen's position, under the same circumstances, playing with and against that level of competition. How do you think Aaron Rodgers would fare? Let's go for a player with a closer parallel - how did Carson Wentz fare? "Josh Allen's teammates sucked, so he sucked" is not an argument that holds water with me. The great ones shine like a flashlight in a room full of darkness.

You'd never think this was a guy who struggled to throw for 300 yards against that level of competition. Twice in 26 games he accomplished this "feat." Was surprised to see he was 9/19 for 92 yards against those world beaters known as Hawaii. Those are Tyrod Taylor type of numbers. I think he'll be the next Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, Blake Bortles, etc. Guys with all the desired check marks, but players that don't have the brain that makes the game easy.

He has all the athletic ability you'd wish for in a QB, but the tape doesn't lie.

Can anyone recall the richest package of draft picks ever exchanged for the right to trade up? It's rumored for the Bills to move to #2, they'd have to give picks #12, #22, #53, #65, AND a 2019 1st round pick. Has any team ever traded THREE first round picks? The 2011 Julio Jones trade was the richest I can remember. ATL received: #6 pick in the draft CLE received: #27 pick in the draft, 2011 2nd round pick, 2011 4th round pick, 2012 1st round pick, 2012 4th round pick Looking back at the Mark Sanchez trade: NYJ received: #5 pick in the draft CLE received: #17 pick in the draft, 2nd round pick (#52), plus three marginal players - DE Kenyon Coleman, QB Brett Ratliff, and DB Abram Elam Just trying to put this potential trade into context...

True, Allen wasn't surrounded by NFL caliber talent, but he also had the luxury of going against DBs that won't even be considered as UDFAs. Playing against the likes of Gardner Webb, Texas State, New Mexico, etc., he should be KILLING those teams. If a player can't dominate in a pool of lesser talent, what does it say about that player? Forget about his stature and arm, his performance left A LOT to be desired. You're asking for someone who isn't innately accurate to star in a league where anticipation and accuracy are valued above all else. Can it be done? Sure, but it's asking a lot, considering no other QB in this modern era has gone on to have success when throwing for less than 60% in college.