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True, Brown is having a career year, despite missing on many other plays. But to think Allen isn’t holding back the offense, based on his play, I don’t know what you’re watching. Every QB leaves plays on the field, but because our receivers have to be open before Allen throws the ball (and even then he doesn’t always throw it) we leave more plays on the field versus those teams who have better QBs. It really can’t be debated.

It means great QBs elevate the level of play of those around them. You’d get greater production out of those “covered” WRs with a better QB.

The reality is, on most plays receivers will appear covered. It’s on the QB to “throw them open” the majority of the time. Saying Duke doesn’t get open is only true to an extent, if he (Or any of the other receivers on the roster) had a top shelf QB throwing the ball, those players would be in a better position to succeed (or fail if they’re not up to catching passes in tight quarters).

If we weren’t trading up for Rosen I was a fan of picking Jackson at 23, but then I heard him speak... I (wrongly) allowed his vernacular to correlate to his football IQ and I assume most NFL GMs felt the same. On the surface you had a guy perform at a high level at a division I program, putting up stats his comparable, Vick, could only dream about, but since the NFL is such a cerebral league, I didn’t think he’d have what it took to thrive. It’s still early, but I wish the Bills would’ve kept both 2nd rounders and selected Jackson at 23. Even if he wasn’t the same player on the Bills as he is in Baltimore, I do think he’d be an upgrade to Allen. At some point talent takes over, even in the face of lesser coaching.

Most of us were skeptical about an underperforming Mountain West QB becoming a franchise QB at the most difficult level of football. Every stat that was pulled suggested he‘d be an NFL bust, I remember one had the likelihood at 81%! While I wouldn’t call him a bust, I don’t think he’ll ever be anything more than an average or slightly above average QB. All the traits required to be an elite signal caller - timing, touch, anticipation, accuracy, field vision - he struggles at every single one. Asking and/or expecting him to make giant leaps of improvement in those areas is probably unfair to him. He is what he is and what he is isn’t good enough.

I don’t believe McDermott and Allen are a super bowl winning combination, so they need to move on from one or both. As Leodis McKelvin used to say, “point blank period.”

Meanwhile Lamar Jackson just put on another clinic ? One of these days we’ll get that position right, just keep picking them.

Don’t know if this has been discussed, but I absolutely HATED the 3rd and 8 run to play for a FG. Don’t know if that falls on Daboll or McD’s direction, but it was a cowardly call that was bailed out by defensive holding. The coaches lack aggression, I wish they were as greedy as Belicheat and co. That timid mindset trickles down to the players. There was a quote a week or two ago from Allen that went something like “with the way our defense plays, I don’t feel like I always have to throw for touchdowns.” Whaaat?! Anyone else catch that golden nugget?

Ok, I’m all for letting the draft come to you and never trading up again ?

No QB gets away with intentional grounding more than Brady. Its infuriating they won’t call it.

Would it have been better to draft Lamar at 23 and retain those 2 second round picks we traded for Allen? ?

I posted in another thread, but Taylor had almost as many solo tackles in this one game (3) as Star does on the entire season (4). His one TFL is also 0.5 more than Star has on the year.

ESPN has the opposite: Browns (-2.5) and their matchup predictor has the Browns chances of winning at 59.6%.

In this one game against the Redskins, Vincent Taylor had almost as many solo tackles (3) as Star has all season (4). Taylor’s one TFL also exceeds Star’s 0.5 TFL on the season. I’d like to hear the Star apologists defend those numbers. EDIT: before I’m told “it’s not Star’s job to make tackles” consider a true space eater like Ted Washington averaged close to 50 tackles per season which equates to 3 a game.

The FO must read the boards ?

You realize those aren’t Josh’s legs? Looks like all they did was replace his face. Everything else is identical to the Rabb pic, all the way down to the creases in the uniform.

Anyone who says that having the ability to throw the ball up and down the field doesn’t equate to much (in the passing game era) is simply a lost cause for this discussion.

All this talk about the run defense, I just want an offense that can hold its own in the passing game era. That’s all I want for Christmas.

Guess you missed the part where I said his size, measurables, and collegiate production were worth the 74th selection. On a team that needed a WR. It wasn’t a revisionist post.

I love Singletary and think he’ll be a good player in this league for a long time, but the Bills create their own holes. I would’ve much rather gone into the season with Lesean McCoy and 3rd round draft pick Terry McLaurin. This isn’t a revisionist post based on the success Scary Terry has had thus far. The team needed a WR. McLaurin had good size, elite speed, and a productive college career. I thought he was worth a flyer. Adding Singletary when we had much more pressing needs felt like adding Spiller when Lynch and Jackson were already in the fold. RBs can be found in almost any round, the Bills continue to overvalue the position.

Daniel Jones 300+ yards and 4 TD passes in a loss.

To be honest, Allen looks worlds better than I thought he would coming out of Wyoming. I thought he’d be an instant bust. He hasn’t been that, but I don’t think he’ll ever be a franchise level QB. He didn’t throw for many yards or TDs in college and that’s transferring over to the NFL thus far. He just doesn’t have the mind that makes the game look easy.

I’m all for moving Tremaine to the outside and drafting a natural MLB next year. Tremaine could continue calling the D until the rookie is ready. Also need at least one legit run stuffing DT. Harrison Phillips is close to being that, but I’d love someone like Damon “Snacks” Harrison since Mt. Washington can’t be cloned.

I miss Ted Washington.

Right now? He’s looked better than Allen all season. Jags lucked up finding him, he reminds me of a young Tony Romo. Elsewhere around the league, Drew Brees got off the couch and threw for almost 400 today.