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IT was probably one his WRs adding to their rap sheets.

He takes enough hits and we need to get White or Trubisky (or their replacement) as many reps as possible.

Jackson will be fine. I have a friend who was an All-American DL at Tenn and had a tough time sticking in the NFL. He said the size, speed and talent difference between college football and pro football is hard to comprehend. He said it takes even really good players time to adjust and some never do. It’s why some of this discussion is premature. There is often a huge jump between year 1 and year 2. Just look at Cook, Shakir, Bernard, and Rousseau for recent examples. However, sometimes the jump takes longer. Look at Poyer and Hyde. Both become starters in their 4th seasons, but were allowed to walk at FAs. Neither was thought of a a future all-pro until they got to Buffalo in year 5. This is why I’m being very patient with Bishop. The speed is there and so is the football IQ. It’s really about staying healthy and adjusting to the speed of the NFL.

WR was the top priority in that draft. After taking Coleman, DeJean was off the board when the Bills drafted again. It’s really that simple.

I agree with most of this post, except in 2024, the Bills drafted a good number of players with significant NCAA experience and many in leadership roles on their college teams. I believe the thinking at the time was that these kind of guys would adjust quicker to the NFL and be able to contribute sooner. After the first 2 picks, Beane drafted 5 guys with 4-6 years of college experience ranging between 44-53 games played. I’m not sure that strategy worked so far. Ray Davis has, so far, been the biggest contributor of that group. Ulofoshio and Solomon look like they’ll be gone soon (admittedly they are late rd picks). SVPG is still developing, and Carter seems to already been passed on the depth chart by 2025 draftees. That doesn’t mean Carter or SVPG won’t eventually succeed in NFL, but they aren’t immediate impact players even in a depth role hoped for. I’d also add that this is not a full indictment of the 2024 class. I like Davis, Grable, and still have high hopes for Bishop and especially Coleman. I also still strongly believe that SVPG has a chance to be a starting NFL center. I don’t think people would complain to heavily if we ended up with 3 starters from this class.

There is a ton of “depth” on this roster that deserves a “courtesy” cut. Sadly, in some cases we don’t have even an adequate replacement. On offense: Trubisky, white, Moore, Samuel, Van Denmark On defense: Carter, Ogunjobi, Ulofoshio, Andreessen, D Jackson, White, Ingram, Forrest, Herndon. If these guys were cut no one would notice they were gone except maybe White. Hairston isn’t ready to start yet.

Our top 3 receivers are Palmer, Shakir (slot) and Coleman. The question is who are their backups. Moore and Samuel are Shakir's backups. Neither has much utility as a primary boundary receiver if Palmer or Coleman are injured. That leaves Shenault and Shavers as the backups. So would you rather have Gabe Davis as the primary boundary backup or Shavers and/or Shenault. To me the answer is easy. I'd rather have Davis.

Not really. Minnesota used the pick we gave them for Diggs on Jefferson. Also Diggs is getting close to a HOF resume. He had 6 straight years of 1000 yards or better. Lead the league in yards and catches one season, had over 100 catches 5 times including 4 straight years, has over 10K in yards, 70 TDs and was an All-Pro twice. Right now he is 50th in yards for a career by a receiver/TE. Not a HOFer, but a couple of good seasons could get him very close.

What r u talking about? Nebraska hasn’t been relevant in nearly 30 years. Different coach, different recruiting era etc…. Clemson, who I agree with hasn’t been great in recent years, still has the same head coach and has remained relevant by winning the ACC every year but two in the last decade. PS I‘m a GA fan and IU alum.

I hate to throw gas on the fire, but would the Bills have been better off keeping the pick and drafting Jefferson?

Yes I know that (so does every WNYer). That was the humor in my post. IU is calling the mascot a bison, thus it’s a bison shirt.

Besides their two National Champions in the last decade?

As a born and raised WNYer and a proud alumnus of Indiana University, I wholeheartedly approve of this. Can't wait to be able to wear a Bison emblemed shirt on Saturdays and a Buffalo emblemed shirt on Sundays. Go Hoosiers! Go Dawgs! Go Bills!

Is it a bad thing this late in camp that a team allegedly going to compete for a Super Bowl has no idea, outside of Benford and T Johnson, who the other 3 starters are in the D backfield? White looks old. Rapp is injured again. Bishop is coming off an injury and looked bad against the Bears. Hairston is now "healthy" but is a rookie with very few reps in camp so far. Hamlin looks like a solid depth, but shouldn't start. The rest of the bowl of Spaghetti, Forrest, Herndon, Jackson, Lewis, Strong, Hancock and Ingram aren't ready to be starters (Strong & Hancock) or (aren't good enough to start (Lewis) or so bad they should even be on the roster (everyone else).

I have zero issue with bringing Gabe back in a depth role. However, the guy only caught 51% of his targets over his career in Buffalo. He is an upgrade over Samuel and Moore at this point and we know he can get down field and block. Having him at WR 4 is fine. How cheap will he sign as the Bills have zero cap space? By the way, Samuel's cap hit if cut is $12 million. If he is gifted a roster spot his cap hit in only $9. Maybe there is some way to do an injury settlement and get rid of his negative cap hit. Moore cost 2.5 to keep or let go.

I only have 44 guys with 5 probables who have “earned” roster spots or were highly drafted players Offense (21 + 2 probable) 2 QB - Allen, Trubisky 4 RB/FB - Cook, Davis, Johnson, Gilliam 3 TE - Knox, Kincaid, Hawes 4 WR - Palmer, Shakir, Coleman, Shavers - Shenault (WR/KR - Probable) - Samuel and Moore should be cut 4 IOL - McGovern, Edwards, Torrence & Anderson - SVPG if not put on IR/PUP 4 OT - Brown, Dawkins, Grable (if healthy), Lundt Defense (21 + 2 probable) 4 DE - Bosa, Rousseau, Epenesa, Jackson 4 DT - Jones, Oliver, Sanders, Walker - (Carter - probable) 3 LB - Milano, Bernard, Williams - Andreessen (probable because of ST) 5 CB - Benford, White, Hairston, T Johnson, Strong 4 S - Rapp, Bishop, Hamlin, Hancock 1 DB - Lewis Specialists (2 + 1 probable) - Ferguson (LS), Bass (PK - if healthy) & Robbins (P - probable but has been inconsistent) WR and the DBs are a mess because of injuries and bad play. At WR Moore and Samuel should be gone but Samuel’s contract may keep him here. At CB White looks old, Hairston is injured and Strong is a rookie. Dane Jackson and Ingram aren’t worth a roster spot much less PT. S is similar to CB. Forrest and Herndon haven’t earn a job, Rapp and Bishop aren’t exactly healthy, and Hancock is a rookie. Hamlin also isn’t good, but at least he is serviceable. LB has questions as well. The top 3 are solid+, but there is zero depth behind them unless Thompson can get healthy. Ulofoshio should be cut On the DL -Carter is likely making the team, but shouldn’t. He just isn't good enough. Ogunjobi is worse and will likely be cut, suspension or no. Solomon has a chance, but there isn’t much there either. His chance is that the Bills keep him around until Hoecht returns. Along the OL - I think the only spot open is the 5th inside spot. That depends on SVPG health. I suspect he starts the year on the PUP list. Green could get the job as he is waiver exempt. The OT spots are set unless Grable’s concussion persists. Imho, Grable’s concussion is Van Denmark’s only road to a roster spot. This defense needs better depth Beane!

Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/joe-flacco-named-starting-quarterback Browns gonna Browns They sign Bond, now name Flacco the starter to throw to him. LOL. The Buffalo Sabres of the NFL.

Right. It was meaningless game with depth players, vanilla play calling and a vanilla D scheme.

The melt down on this board over a pre-season loss to the Bears would be sad if it wasn't so funny and misplaced. They lost last year 33-6 to the Bears. Didn't we go 0-4 one year in preseason and play in the Super Bowl. Let me know how they do when the starters play.

The Bills have no viable safeties. Rapp is hurt again and remains hurt. Forrest apparently can't beat out a much of injured or bad players. Hamlin is all effort no results. Bishop is raw and injury prone Hancock is a rookie with zero NFL experience. Cam Lewis is a JAG and not even a good one. Does the work dumpster fire mean anything.

Cut we cut both Mitch and White? I'm sure there is a better QB in the CFL somewhere.

My bad. I should have looked before posting.

Is Bishop now replacing Cook as the board whipping boy?