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This is a 4 receiver offense (plus the backs); Kincaid and Shakir inside, Coleman and Palmer outside. I doubt Samuel, Shavers or Moore see much PT. The top 4 will receive 60 to 100 targets each, Cook sees 40-50 and the rest get the leftovers.

Reasons for optimism - Allen, the great RB room, healthy Milano, T Johnson, Kincaid, Bosa and clear improvement from Coleman. I mentioned this when Coleman was drafted, but he is size and speed wise very similar to Tee Higgins and Michael Pittman who were drafted at the top of the 2020 draft’s 2nd rd. Higgins year 1 - 67/108 908 6TDs, year 2 74/110 1091 6 TDs Pittman year 1 - 40/61 503 1 TD, year 2 88/129 1082 6 TDs Coleman year 1 - 29/57 556 4 TDs, year 2 ???? I wouldn’t be all surprised if Coleman doubles his targets. If that happens, he could easily get to 1000 yards. Remember, he average 19 yards per catch last season.

Which of the guys on this list might actually help the Bills this season? I can see Gore helping in a pinch; possibly Logue, but the rest seem like cannon fodder. Jackson, Phillips and Poyer are done as NFLers. I’ll revise this post and add I think Green and Feeney would be adequate fill ins on the line if pressed into service.

I think you'll be surprised when he plays over Samuel on gameday.

The only semi surprise was Ingram making the roster, but even that isn’t much of a surprise. I’d say Ingram, Van Denmark, Solomon and Carter are the first players gone when the IR and suspended players return (depending on position).

So far I've seen Green, Gosnell, Latu, Ciarlo, and Jenkins to be added to PS if they clear. Also Jordan Phillips will be added to PS. Possible PS Ulofoshio, Hardy, D Jackson, and Clayton (apparently their is an International PS spot)

Updated: I have 33 players released, waived, cut or other wise let go. 1 placed on IR. Updated info in Bold QB - White, Buechele RB - Young, Howard TE - Latu, Sokol WR - Hamler, Shenault, Gosnell, Virgil, Dubose, Prather OL - Green, M Edwards, Bayer, Gouraige, Reimer, Feeney, Clayton DE - Ceaser DT - Rogers LB - Ulofoshio, Cairlo, Hollins, Jenkins CB - Hardy, D Jackson, Couch S - Herndon, Forrest DB - Alexander, Hollis K - Davis Edited: Forrest, Rogers & Jenkins added. Grable added to IR to start the season.

Laugh at the Raiders all you want, but Geno can throw the ball and their offense features Brock Bowers and Ashton Jeanty. I also think Dont'e Thornton is going to excel in their offense.

Bye Bye Mike, good luck in all your future endeavors.

Who could get traded instead of cut/waived/released? OL - Lundt, Van Denmark DL - Carter WR - Moore, Samuel TE - Davidson RB - Gore

This is certainly possible. Lets hope we never have to see the 3rd QB play in a game this coming season. Let's also hope the only time we see Mitch is when the Bills are up 30 in the 4th qtr.

Remember there is the emergency QB rule. The team can put a 3rd QB on the 53 or use one of their 2 weekly PS elevation on the emergency QB. That QB can't play in the game, unless a 3rd QB is needed for injuries. My guess is White is likely to be cut, but on the PS and then elevated each week as the emergency QB.

You clearly missed the point of my post. My post wasn’t about releasing guys prior to the last pre-season game, but illustrating how lousy a significant piece of the “depth” is.

I think he can afford Sunday ticket for the folks

I wanted Beane to spend on a non-retread starter at CB as well, but with having to re-sign Shakir, Benard, Cook, Josh, and Benford and limited cap space, Beane had to make a choice between getting needed help at WR (Palmer), DE (Bosa) and a CB starter and a S starter. He felt (right or wrong) that DE and WR were bigger off-season needs than CB/S and with limited cap space for FA he went in that direction. I understand the decision and mostly agree with it. Our WR play and DE play were worse than our DB play last season (and that is saying something). He also had Bishop who he hopes will make a huge step forward in year 2 at S and a good group of CBs with 1st rd grades. PS I'm not absolving Beane from wasting money on Samuel or for blowing the Elam draft pick. I think we'd all feel better about things if Elam had worked out.

Let's hold out some hope that it turns out to be something minor.

Hairston may start and if White can comeback healthy he will start. Forrest was also expected to compete for a starting S job, but it didn't work out. Bosa is the only DL FA or Draftee set to start. Sorry!

I'll add more facts. We drafted 2 DT, 1 DE and signed Bosa at DE, but really no other DE or DT that could make the team We then drafted 2 CB, 1 S/CB and signed 3 FAs who could make the team in White, Jackson and Forrest. It seems to me we spent more draft and roster capital (and maybe cap space) on the D secondary than on the DL.

You're right, I keep forgetting the rule about never letting facts get in the way of a good rant.

We also drafted 3 DBs (Hairston, Strong & Hancock) and signed White, Jackson, and Forrest among others.

The rate guys are getting injured, will we have 53 players to make a roster with?

Aren't you forgetting Douglas? Can you imagine if Douglas and Simmons are starting for the Bills week 1?

They'd prefer to Whip it! Whip it good!

We'd "save" 1.8 mill in cap if he is cut, but McD loves his vets. I highly doubt he gets cut, but stranger things have happened. There are 7 DT on the camp roster who will or could make the team. Oliver, Sanders and Walker are set. Jones is next, followed by Carter, the suspended Ogunjobi, and Lodge. If you cut Jones, then your only vet depth is Ogunjobi, who is suspended for 6 games and hasn't exactly shined in camp.

to the posters who disagree with me, which guys on this list would you miss if they were cut tomorrow? Which of these guys, beside Tre White, will get significant PT even if they make the team? Maybe Moore if he builds some chemistry with Josh?