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Actually he hit the highest speed in the gauntlet test over the last two years (20.36 MPH). Puca Nacua is second at 20.06. The NFL world is pissed that we "gave" Worthy to KC. But what people forget about Hill is his in game speed, not just his 40 speed. His 22.01 mph on a TD in week 5 this past season was the fastest recorded ball-carrier speed last season. As Coleman said in his presser, he doesn't remember ever getting caught from behind.

Our OLine coach apparently has been talking to Van Pran and believes he can cross train him to also be an effective guard. The reason he fell to the 5th was "short arm" BS. This kid was a a 3 year starter, team captain and anchor for a line on a team that won 2 national championships and only lost 2 games while Van Pran was a starter. He is very smart and durable. He allowed only 1 sack in 1300 pass plays during his career at UGA. This may sound silly, but he is known as the best shotgun snapper in this draft class. Seems like an important skill set in today's pass happy NFL.

No surprise. It had to be done by May 2. Good article today in the Athletic on why it was a no brainer.

There goes the myth that Beane only drafts defensive players. The truth about the draft is that teams are looking for two things. Broadly speaking teams are looking for eventual starters early and later they are looking for cheap roster depth. If a late pick becomes a starter (like Milano, Benford or Shakir) then all the better; just don't expect it. This year's draft can be broken down even further Picks 1 - 2 - starters sooner than later. Coleman starts day 1 and Bishop easily pushes for immediate PT and maybe beats out Edwards for a starting job. Picks 3 - 4 - Rotational players - Carter and Davis will get snaps this season. Davis could win the RB2 job. Pick 5 - Van Pran is an interesting case. Most prognosticators had him as a top 100 pick, yet we got him at 141. At worst he is depth this season, but he might be this class' Milano. I'm admittedly a little biased here, but he could win the starting C job in camp, and be Josh's C for the next decade. He reminds me of a better David Andrews, who was a UDFA out of Georgia with similar experience and leadership and he won the starters job in NE. Andrews has been the starter since 2015. Picks 6, 7 & 9 - D depth with upside. A Butkus Award finalist, the FBS leader in sacks and a small fast skilled cover corner. These are high motor guys who will fight for a roster spot, contribute on special teams and hopefully develop into rotational depth. Picks 8 & 10 - O Line projects. Both likely start on the practice squad and hang around for a few years to see if they develop (aka Doyle). Best case one becomes the next Wyatt Teller. If I had to guess on the future of this class, we get 3 starters (Coleman, Bishop and Van Pran), 2 guys that get a second contract and make an impact (Carter and Solomon), 1 guy who contributes but is allowed to walk when his contract ends (Davis), 1 guy who gets a chance at being the kick returner (Hardy) and 3 guys who make little to no impact.

Ask Harvey Weinstein. He used to produce such films in WNY.

Considering all the actual high character guys they just drafted, this is really a strange signing.

This is certainly close. On offense I don't think we can pencil in Grable or Shorter, especially if Beane signs the vet he has been working out. On defense I think Beane has created a battle for the 5th and final LB slot between Spector and Ulofoshio. I also think Hamlin makes the team. Hardy is an interesting question. I see him fighting Hamler for the kick returner slot.

In a typical draft class I am hoping for two potential starters and a few guys who contribute enough to earn a second contract. Anything more than that elevates the class to elite status. Anything less, the class disappoints. Take the last few Bills classes for example. 2023 (6 picks) - 2 immediate starters - Kincaid and Torrence. A contributor in Williams and maybe one in Shorter. 2022 (8 picks) - 4 starters - Cook, Bernard and late rd steals Shakir & Benford. 2 potential contributors in Elam and Spector 2021 (8 picks) - 2 starters - Rousseau and Brown. Basham played but was a bust. Hamlin was a contributor before his injury and Doyle is a still hanging around. 2020 (7 Picks) - 3 starters - Epenesa, Davis & Bass. 2 contributors in Moss and Dane Jackson. Hodgins is still also in the league 2022 is already a legendary class with 4 starters and if Elam finally develops he could be a 5th. For the 2024 class (10 picks) I see the following: 3 potential starters - Coleman, Bishop and Van Pran 2 early contributors - Davis and Carter 3 special teamers - Ulofoshio, Solomon and Hardy 2 projects - Grable and Clayton Odds are that after the top 5 players on this list, any production we get from the bottom 5 potentially turns a solid class into a good or even great one. For example, Solomon could become an elite situational pass rusher or one of Grable or Clayon develop into a Teller or Peters and become a long-term starter for the Bills.

I think the quality of this roster is about the same last year, but with more youth and therefore more upside. QB is Allen The RB room is better with Cook, Johnson and Davis The TEs are the same, except Kincaid is poised to become a bigger piece of the offense. The O line lost the aging Morse, but has better depth now with the addition of Van Pran who could challenge for a start job this season. I actually think the WR room is less proven but has significantly more upside. Don't forget that Diggs after week 6, Davis, Sherfield and Harty all sucked last year. Only Shakir's breakout saved the group from truly being terrible. I'm coming around on Coleman after reading his gauntlet drill speed (20 mph+) and I was astonished at Shakir's improvement last season, especially when the stats after week 6 showed that he was our most effective pass catcher in terms of yard (total), yard/att and explosive plays. On defense The DT's are the same in Jones and Oliver, but with better depth. The Edge rushers are possibly worse on paper because of the loss of Floyd, but could be better as Rousseau returns to his natural position and Miller is health again The LB room is as deep as it's ever been and has Milano back and ascending pros Benard and Williams The CB starters all return in Douglas, all-pro Taron Johnson and emerging star Benford The safeties are a question with Edwards and Rapp now starters, but Hyde and Poyer were not exactly what they once were and Beane added a possible starter in Bishop in the draft. I don't think people are saying that any longer with Collins, Dell and Dalton Schultz. I wonder how our friend Stef is going to feel playing 4th fiddle to those 3?

One other note about Keon. https://www.buffalobills.com/news/buffalo-bills-select-fsu-wr-keon-coleman-with-no-33-overall-pick-2024-nfl-draft The player 2nd on the list is Puca Nacua who hit 20.06. He seems to do ok last season despite running 4.57 at his pro day. Puka is 6'2 210

I don't think you can say that. All you can say is that the WR room is inexperienced. Also to only discuss the WR room is to ignore two other key players in the passing game Kincaid and Cook. I wonder how Packers fans and the media ranked the Packers WR/TE group entering last season that featured 6 1st and 2nd year players. That seemed to work out ok as they hauled in 255 catches for 3177 yards and 28 TDs, with no player having more than 96 targets or 793 yards. Talk about a balanced attack. David and Diggs are the past, and they stunk last year. Time to move forward with Samuel and the kids.

A Coleman Comparison Keon Coleman (Combine) 6'3", 213, 321/8 arm, 9 3/8 hand, 4.61 40, 1.54 10, 38 vertical (drafted 33rd in 2024) Tee Higgins (Pro day) 6'4", 216, 34 1/8 Arm, 9.25 hand; 4.54 40, 1.66 10, 31 Vertical (drafted 33rd in 2020) Michael Pittman (Combine) 6'4", 223, 32.5 arm, 9.25 hand, 4.52, 1.51 10, 36.5 vertical (drafted 34th in 2020) I would say Higgins and Pittman are pretty good comparisons to Coleman. Hopefully he'll be as effective in the NFL. As a rookie for Cinn, Higgins had 67 catches on 108 targets for 908 and 6 TDs. In the next 3 years (Tee was hurt much of this past season) he had about 2750 yards on 230 catches 18 TDS. Pittman had 40 catches on 61 targets as a rookie for 503 yards and a TD. In the 3 years since he has had over 3100 yards on nearly 300 catches with 14 TDS.

Dude the stats are the stats. After week 6 Kincaid and Shakir were both more effective last season than Diggs. How do you define better? Diggs is certainly the player with the better history, but past performance is no guarantee of future results. I'll ask another question. Which of these 3 players has the most upside next season? Remember the goal here is to put the best team on the field going forward. Just because Diggs has had 5 straight 1000 yards seasons (an amazing accomplishment by the way), it doesn't mean that he is that player any longer.

OK, you be the judge. Here are the stats from last season. Which of the 3 players listed was the most effective receiver? Here are the stats after week 6 when we opened up the offense and started using Kincaid and Shakir more. (Stats include the playoffs) Diggs - 111 tgts, 68 rec, 636 yards, 3 TDS, Catch % 61.26, yards/att 5.73 Kincaid - 83 tgts, 64 rec, 659 yards, 3 TDS, Catch % 77.11%, yards/att 7.94 Shakir - 52 tgts, 45 rec, 646 yards, 3 TDS, Catch % 86.54%, yards/att 12.42

Thanks for the list. Maybe I should re-phrase. How many have made the active roster? It looks like Alec Anderson, Jonathan Kingsley and Ingram. Q. Morris as well?

I'm surprised it's that many. Who?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2024-nfl-draft-winners-and-losers-eagles-steelers-commanders-load-up-more-iffy-moves-by-panthers/ Winners - Buffalo Bills

This maybe a reach, but I think they would have. We know that the Bills had Coleman higher than McConkey, Mitchell, Legette, Worthy, and Pearsall. If they didn't they would have taken one of Worthy, McConkey, Legette or Pearsall at 28 (or 32) instead of trading down (twice). So let's say for arguments sake that the Bills don't make the trade and draft Coleman at 28. Dallas and Baltimore don't take a WR. Dallas didn't grab a WR until the 6th round and Baltimore stole Tez Walker in the 4th. We know SF didn't want Legette, McConkey and Coleman. That leaves one question, would they have taken Worthy over Pearsall? That's the real question. Given how the 49ers went somewhat off the board by drafting Pearsall with Legette, McConkey, Coleman, & Mitchell available, I believe they had Pearsall ranked ahead of Worthy as well. By way the NFL had a draft grade of 6.4 on McConkey, 6.35 on Mitchell, 6.32 on Pearsall, 6.29 on Worthy, 6.26 on Legette, and 6.25 on Coleman Given this back drop, it seems to me that KC would ended up with Worthy anyway. I'm therefore glad Beane stuck to his guns, traded down and added the 3rd rd pick.

Loved Rosemy at UGA. Excellent possession receiver, but not a great fit here with Coleman, Hollins and Shorter already here. I'd love to see him make an NFL roster.

If Van Pran starts for the Bills it will be at C. He played C at UGA and is excellent at the shotgun snap. If Edwards falters or the McGovern at C experiment fails, the Bills will move McGovern to G, Edwards to the bench and Van Pran to center.

How many UDFA have made the Bills in the last 5 years?

Despite the contrarians on this thread, I think with Diggs gone, Brady (and thus Josh) has the freedom to try anything and with all the skill personnel. We will see 12 personnel (Kincaid and Knox), we'll see Cook split out, Samuel in the backfield and we could easily see Davis and Cook on the field at the same time. The most exciting thing is Josh is no longer handcuffed having to feed Diggs. My bold prediction for this coming season is we'll see the most dynamic offense Josh has ever QB'd.

As an IU alum, I'm very proud of point guard Xavier Johnson making the transition to football! He is a little injury prone however.

Singing?

I give Beane and company a solid B+. There are things to like about every single pick, and I like that we filled most of holes in the roster. I think we have at least 3 potential starters in this class. Coleman will start this season and depending on how camp goes, I think Van Pran and Bishop will push at worst for immediate PT. If either Edwards falters, Van Pran and Bishop will become starters this season. Bishop has size and speed. Van Pran allowed only 1 sack in 1300 passing attempts while at UGA and Coleman had 20 TD catches the last 2 years. This stats stood out to me when I realized that Shakir, Kincaid and Diggs only had 9 TDS on 246 targets from week 7 through the playoffs. Having someone that can go up and grab a ball in the red zone and end zone is a huge upgrade for our passing attack. I didn't know much about Solomon and Ulofoshio before the draft, but hard to argue with drafting the FBS sack leader in Solomon and a Butkus Award finalist in Ulofoshio in the late stages of the draft. If Solomon can have a similar impact in the pros as he did in college (a big if), it will help Beane move on from Miller. I also love the Davis pick. He is excellent catching out of the backfield, can make tacklers miss and get tough yards. He will thrive in Buffalo. Carter is by all accounts a really good football player in the 3 technique which is something we needed depth at. He is also a smart kid, a team leader at Duke and they say he is good against he run. Both lineman are developmental but are huge and athletic. We'll see if the CB (Hardy) can play CB in the NFL, but he is fast and could easily out battle Hamler for the kick returner job. Biggest complaints are Coleman lack of speed (although his in game speed is very good) and our failure with 10 picks to add a speed receiver option to help stretch the field. I'm a little surprised at Beane made all 10 choices. With the Diggs trade, the pick 144 for the Bears 4th in 2025 and compensatory picks, I think the Bills now have as many as 12 picks in 2025.