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No one thinks this is anywhere near the best WR room in the NFL. Everyone wants it to be better, including Beane and Josh. However, our passing attack isn't predicated on WRs as much as WRs, TEs and RBs. We may have the best group of pass catching RBs in the NFL with 3 guys who can catch, break tackles and out run defenders. Kincaid, when healthy, is as dangerous as most WRs and brings size. The truth is what is truly missing is someone who can take the top off the defense. Coleman, who should improve in year 2, isn't that guy. Samuel has the speed, but no one has every utilized him in that manner. Palmer can get down field, but isn't a HR threat. In this draft there are guys with that HR ability and the good news for the Bills is that most of those guys are actually Rd 4-5 players.

No question both are overpaid. I wouldn't have signed either player, but I'm not the GM. However, they are here and Brady, Josh, Beane and McD need to find away to get value out of them. I do think Palmer has the chance to have a breakout year here. My opinion as to why WR is unlikely to be the priority on days 1 & 2 of the draft simply comes down to why did the Bills lose in the playoffs the last 2 years? The answer was defensive mistakes much brought on by lack of adequate D depth. With White, D Jones and Bosa as current projected starters, given their ages, injury histories and 1 year contracts, it's imperative that Beane get long-term replacements for them in the draft, especially in a drafted loaded with Edge and DT early with a decent amount of talented CBs. It's simply a matter of demand meeting supply. Add that the WR crop is not the greatest (especially compared to last season) early in the draft and our signing of Palmer, leads me to believe that WR isn't an early priority. The biggest caveat for me at WR is somehow Egbuka falls to 30. If I were Beane and Egbuka was sitting there at 30, I'd throw away my draft script and take him and then let the chips fall where they may. He is the one WR who might be available at 30 who would change our offense for the better for the next 5-7 years.

What? Palmer is a proven NFL receiver. Samuel is a proven NFL receiver. They aren't stars and Brady needs to rethink how he utilized (or didn't utilize) Samuel, but they are proven NFL players. Just FYI: Samuel has 4 seasons in his career with over 600 yards receiving, including one with 800+ yards. Palmer has 3 of 580+ in his 4 NFL season including one over 750 yards. Palmer has averaged over 15 yards per catch in the last 2 seasons. Beane is investing up to $12 mill a season in Palmer. He is going to play the Amari Cooper role this coming season with probably just as good or better results. That said, I agree on wanting more vertical threat(s) down the field and guys like Felton, Kyle Williams, Arian Smith and Thornton can deliver that ability.

Updated for Tre White. Net of the suspensions there are 52 jobs currently spoken for. The Bills have 10 draft picks at their disposal starting Thursday. Not sure how they fit 10 draftees on the roster. Guys I currently have listed who may end up on the wrong side of the cut line to make room for draft picks are White (QB), Green (OL), Spector (LB), Shenault (WR), Davidson (TE), Dane Jackson (CB), Ingram (CB), Codrington (KR/CB), Hamlin (S), Andreessen (LB), and Van Denmark (OL).

He has 13.5 sacks for his career, is suspended for 6 games and who knows what we'll actually get out of his this coming season and beyond. At best he's AJE's replacement.

That is distinctly possible. Works out like a 5th year option.

My hot take is we will regret letting Cook walk after this season.

I don’t think you’ll see a WR early. I think Beane will go after a speed receiver in the 4th rd like Thornton, Arian Smith, Felton or Kyle Williams. The name of this early draft is bolstering the defense with premium picks. Our starters at 3 key D positions, run stopping D Line (Jones), CB2 (White) and edge rusher (Bosa), are all on 1 years deals and all have significant age and/or injury history. Beane will draft their understudies/replacements with his 1st 3 picks. Given the depth of DT and Edge in the top 70 players and a fair amount of corners who should be available late in the 1st, this draft kind of plays into our needs.

Bosa can rent it from him for the year he is here.

What does Tre White’s signing mean to the Bills’ draft strategy?

Tre White PFF grade 2024 52.9 Dane Jackson PFF grade 2024 33.8 Rasul Douglas PFF grade 59.2 Elam PFF grade 70.2 For some reason I don’t feel better about the changes at CB despite the returnees being former and once again Bills.

From ESPN mock draft simulator. Buffalo Bills Round 1, Pick 30 James Pearce Jr. Tennessee Rk: 16 EDGE Chance available at Pick 83% Round 2, Pick 47 Azareye'h Thomas Florida State Rk: 29 CB Chance available at Pick 16% Round 2, Pick 62 T.J. Sanders South Carolina Rk: 42 DT Chance available at Pick 71% Round 3, Pick 100 Billy Bowman Jr. Oklahoma Rk: 92 S Chance available at Pick >95% Round 4, Pick 138 Chimere ***** Florida Rk: 114 WR Chance available at Pick 91% Round 5, Pick 173 Cody Simon Ohio State Rk: 131 LB Chance available at Pick 66% Round 7, Pick 227 Luke Lachey Iowa Rk: 189 TE Chance available at Pick 88%

I’m a Bulldawg fan and Starks is a game changer and would love to see him fall to us l, but I don’t think he falls past 20, but I agree he could slide some. The player who slides in the mocks I’ve done recently is Pearce the edge rusher out of Tennessee. If he is there at 30, Beane is going to have a hard time not taking him.

Mondon the LB from GA Thornton, Felton and Kyle Williams. At least one of these speed receivers will make a huge impact on their teams in year 1.

Hairston. I keep mocking the draft on ESPN's mock draft simulator and in nearly every time if I don't grab Hairston at 30, there is no left by 56. As much as I like a DT at 30, CB has to be the pick. As to Hairston, I want him speed on the outside.

He'll be up for parole in 2026. Maybe KC can fix that oversight then.

Or Rashee Rice (or Rae Carruth - now that was a killer WR)

I think y'all are kind off missing the point of my post. My post was a list of great players at various other positions off the top of my head. It wasn't a list of greatest Bills ever. The point was I couldn't easily name great former and current Bills at nearly every position, but I could think of anyone that stood out at that level of greatness for CB or TE. Lots of very good CBs, some even excellent for a time, but none I'd consider as an all-time great Bill.

This is the one position in Bills history that we really can’t identify one or two guys who were great. Lots of very good but go through other positions and you find one or two great players. QB - Kelly, Allen RB - Simpson , Thomas FB - Gilcrest WR - Reed, Lofton, Diggs Center - Hull, Wood O Tackle - Dawkins, R Brown, S Brown? O Guard - Ritcher, Joe D, Shaw D End/Edge - B Smith DT - K Williams, Sestak NT - Smerlas LB - Biscuit, Fletcher, Talley S - Poyer, Hyde I’ve probably missed one or two guys, but you get the point. At CB, I don’t see anyone close to these levels of play. TE is the other position lacking a truly great player.

Gretzky has more assists (1963) then the next closest player has points (Jagr 1921 pts - 766g-1155 a). Ovi actually beat Gretzky in goals in the same number of games (1487 games), but trails the Great One by 1190 assists. Only Messier (1193) and Francis (1249) have more assists in their careers than the gap between Gretzky and Ovi. One NFL record that probably won't be broken is OJ's yards per game (143.1) in the 1973 season. What about Brady's 7 Super Bowl wins?

You do know the BPA doesn’t really exist. There is no such thing as a consensus list with every player graded identically. Every team has different criteria in building their list. The Bills have been known to have very specific criteria on physical characteristics for players by position. Other teams are less restrictive. Some teams likely weigh need more than others and we also know the Philly likes to draft players off top college teams like GA, OSU and Bame. Other teams aren’t as picky about which college team a guy played for. Therefore the Bills list is not the same as KCs, or Phillys or the NYJ’s or etc…. Those lists are also different from the lists made by media members or other so called experts. That said comparing Beane to well known public lists like Mel Kiper, Beane has rarely “reached” against the perceived consensus. The only two real reaches my researched revealed were Elam (bust) and Cook (star). Guys like Ford and Basham were drafted about where the “experts” predicted. As fans we just have to hope that Beane sticks to his list, but need will play into how that list is constructed.

Lewis is an emergency safety. Last year he served as Taron's primary backup.

I went and did a review of our opening day roster the last 5 years and came away with some interesting thoughts on how that might affect our draft strategy Offense QB - 2 unless we have a draftee. Current roster 3 - White or Trubisky likely to get cut OL - 9. Current roster 10 - Green likely to be cut RB/FB - 4-5. Current roster 4. Draft pick possible but unlikely TE - 3. Current roster 2. Draft pick likely with camp competition with Davidson for the 3rd TE job WR - 6. Current roster 5. In the OP I said I’d like a speedster added and now think that’s likely; guys like Felton, K Williams, A Smith & Thornton Defense DE - 5. Current roster 5, but Hoecht suspended. Draft pick necessary AJE & Bosa on one year deals. DL - 5. Current roster 4, but Ogunjobi suspended. Draft pick necessary to add depth and replace D Jones long-term LB - 6. Current roster 6, but Spector’s job is tenuous at best. I see a middle rd pick used to replace Spector or Buffalo Joe CB - 6. Current roster 6, but with Codrington. Rostered 7 in 2023. 1st rd pick likely used at add a talented CB. S - 4. Current roster 4. Carried 5 last year and I think we do it again this year. Draft pick necessary with 3/4 on 1 year deals. Right now I see Beane drafting 7 players with a CB, DT and Edge early followed by a TE, Speed WR, LB and S later depending on how the draft falls. UDFA QB Rourke (IU) signed after the draft.

I think people are not appreciating that TE is a need in this draft. Right now the Bills TE depth is Kincaid, Knox (who is likely in his final season as a Bill), pass catching PS player Davidson and former UDFA Armani Rogers who hasn't played a snap in the NFL since 2022. With Morris gone as the depth blocking TE and special teams ace, Beane needs to replace those attributes as neither Davidson or Rogers has that skill set.