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I'm not sure it really makes sense to eliminate WR or CB just based on the number of official visits either; it makes sense that they'd bring more WRs and CBs in for visits considering (1) they're still potentially viewed as a need, and more importantly, (2) you generally have 3 or 4 WR/CBs on the field on most plays versus, for example, one TE. The CBs that were brought in were not 1st round prospects, so that can probably be safely ruled out, but in regard to WR for example, he eliminates WR from the list and keeps TE despite the fact that he believes 4 WRs and 4 TEs were brought in for official visits. So again, you're talking about a position where there's generally 3 or 4 times as many WRs on the field as there are TEs and yet we spent more visits on TEs, so based on this, the conclusion would seem to be that Buffalo is being more selective with WRs than they are with TEs. Of those visits, all 4 WRs are considered to be 1st round picks or fringe 1st round picks. The TEs, with the exception of Hockenson, are all considered to be Day 2 or Day 3 prospects. And yet Turner argues that it's the WR position that's being evaluated for depth rather than the TE position. I don't really follow that logic. It seems to me that if we're eliminating WR, we should also eliminate TE based on the same logic.

His list of options at #9 is based specifically on the rationale that every first round pick Beane has made has been someone that came in for an official visit. The senior bowl meetings, combine meetings, etc. do not matter for that part of the article. He even makes sure to bold it so that readers can't miss it:

That may be, but they also brought Allen to Buffalo for an official visit which is what Turner is basing his list of possibilities off of.

The workouts that Turner is referring to would have taken place in Buffalo so you're talking about something else.

Presumably some DE in there, but I think Edmunds could and should take some of those snaps once Lorax is gone.

I don't necessarily think it's wise to draft another LB so high despite believing that taking advantage of Edmunds' versatility would be better than simply playing him at MLB, but having said... I did my best to determine the snap counts from the 3 LBs when all 3 were healthy and it looks like when all 3 were healthy, they played the following percentage of defensive snaps (ignoring special teams): Edmunds: 99% Milano: 90% Lorax: 52% So while Lorax was obviously used significantly less, he was still playing over half the defensive snaps. So again, I don't necessarily think it would be wise to take another LB that high, but they could still make it work with Edmunds, Milano, and White/Bush all playing the majority of snaps. Other thoughts on the article: It's a good read, but as others pointed out, kinda weird that he just assumes Hockenson came in for a visit so that he can make him the choice while still fitting the main criteria, which is that every player they've drafted in the 1st has come in for an official visit. It is very likely that Hockenson has been visiting with teams on the down low, but we simply don't know who those teams are. It might include the Bills but it might not.

Would love for Metcalf to be the pick. We'll see. Ultimately I think it's him, Wilkins, Burns, or Gary. I think the relative lack of smoke around DK given the Bills WR need and Beane's draft tendencies is interesting to me.

Quinnen is obviously a lock to be gone at #9 and Allen and Oliver are both very likely to be gone as well. My guess is that the Bills don't necessarily want Jonah or Hockenson that high in the draft anyways, so it wouldn't be a bad thing if someone else takes them before us.

I personally think Gore is better than McCoy at this point in their careers and think whoever the Bills could realistically draft would have a chance of being an upgrade as well, so I'd personally rather just have McCoy off the team at this point.

Theoretically, they could forego the FB position and carry 4 RBs, or simply cut one of the 3 guys they currently have under contract. All of their contracts (tbd on Yeldon but probably a safe assumption) can be cut for decent savings. McCoy is the obvious choice to me but I don't REALLY believe he or Gore get moved.

I'm torn between my personal hope that McCoy is traded/the fact that we now have three veteran RBs and still seem like we should draft one vs. the fact that Gore seemingly signed with Buffalo so that he could play with McCoy. Would love to see Buffalo trade McCoy for something, but I don't really see it. Kinda wonder if one of these RBs ends up getting cut in training camp.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/04/22/nfl-mock-draft-fmia-peter-king/ A couple noteworthy items to me: He has joined the chorus of NFL reporters projecting Ed Oliver to the Jets at #3, though he notes that on the surface, he doesn't seem like an obvious fit in the 3-4 that Gregg apparently intends to run. He says most teams have Quinnen Williams as the #1 prospect in the draft. Projects that the Dolphins trade a 3rd rounder for Josh Rosen and says that nobody has studied Rosen more than the Dolphins. Has Haskins as the #2 QB taken, but it's all the way down at #15. He has Clemson's DTs, Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence going #13 and #14 respectively. Says that Miami will likely value Wilkins highly given Flores' connection to the Patriots and the Patriots belief in 315+ pounders with quickness. DK goes #30 in this mock to the Packers. He believes that at least 3 teams in the 20's want RB Josh Jacobs and that someone will likely trade up for him to get ahead of the other teams in the 20s.

He's insanely athletic and as a passer, put up one of the all-time best seasons. This is a good read that breaks down how he compares to Baker last year as well as Josh Rosen. https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/contextualized-quarterbacking--kyler-vs.-baker-vs.-rosen

I don't think Lock's ceiling is as high as Allen's, but I think he's much further along in terms of ball placement than Allen was in college. Allen's running ability set him up to have more early success than I think Lock will as well, but I think Lock is more likely to become a great passer than Allen (though again, IF it all clicks for Allen, like you said his potential is insanely high).

I think we purposefully started putting a lot of smoke out there once it got out that we loved Josh Allen so that people didn't know which rumor was real and which was smoke. That doesn't really seem to be the case this year; I wonder if people haven't actually picked up on who Buffalo really wants yet.

Won't bother with my own thread, but like Gunner, I didn't scout the QBs nearly as in-depth as I did the prior year since Buffalo has their QB now. I scouted 5 of them, and never got around to scouting Kyler enough to assign a grade/write a scouting report. Based on the little that I saw of Kyler, I would venture to guess that he'd be my top rated QB had I done my deep-dive, but we'll never know for sure. Of the QBs that I did scout, I have them rated: Drew Lock - Top 15 pick, same grade as I gave Josh Allen last year Daniel Jones - Top 15 pick, slightly below Lock Dwayne Haskins - Late 1st round pick Clayton Thorson - 4th-5th round pick Ryan Finley - 5th or 6th round pick If interested, you can view the full scouting reports for this year's QB class as well as the two years before here: https://draftqbs.wordpress.com/

Saw this on Rotoworld this morning:

Bills have been connected to Oliver for a while now so probably a moot point, but I think it was Jeremiah that pegged Oliver at 3 earlier this week before Matt Miller’s report about Bills and Oliver.

How?

Below average. I don’t think anyone would argue that lol. The Bills offense weapons remain among the worst in the league.

Dane Brugler's latest 7 round mock draft has him going 112th to the Bills, which would mean 4th round I believe. Kiper/McShay do not have him in their 3 round mock. WalterFootball projects him to go between the 3rd-5th round range.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/insider/story/_/id/26540477/picking-10-sleepers-2019-nfl-draft-love-more-most It's an ESPN+ article, but the short version of guys that PFF thinks are flying under the radar are: David Long, CB, Michigan - PFF's #4 corner in the draft, he played 595 coverage snaps, was targeted just 60 times, and allowed just 18 receptions for 130 yards and a passer rating of 24.3 over 3 years. 80th percentile or higher in vertical leap, 3 cone, and 20 yard shuttle along with a solid 4.45 40, but he gets knocked because he's only 5'10 5/8" though he does have above-average wingspan. Khalen Saunders, DT, Western Illinois - PFF's #7 DT in the draft, he's a 324 lb nose tackle and he posted the 5th highest run stop percentage among DTs in the draft class and dominated the one-on-one drills at the Senior Bowl. Didn't test very well at the combine, but FWIW, of his top 4 physical comparisons, 3 of them are Jurell Casey, Mo Hurst, and Da'Ron Payne. Diontae Johnson, WR, Toledo - PFF's #11 WR in the draft, Diontae broke 10 tackles on 49 receptions this year. He also posted the 4th highest receiving grade in the country and led the country in punt return average. Hjalte Froholdt, OG, Arkansas - PFF's #4 OG in the draft, he's relatively weak as a run blocker, but in the passing game, he allowed just 5 pressures all season. Matched up against Quinnen Williams, who received PFF's highest grade ever, Froholdt surrendered 0 pressures on 41 pass-blocking snaps. Maxx Crosby, DE, Eastern Michigan - PFF's #12 EDGE in the draft, he racked up 133 pressures and 72 run snaps in his career (#9 and #7 in the class respectively). 6'5", 255 lbs, and he tested in the 90th percentile or higher among defensive linemen in the 40 yard dash, vertical leap, broad jump, 3 cone drill, 20 yard shuttle, and 60 yard shuttle; he's an absolute freak athletically speaking with great production to go along with it. Ronheen Bingham, EDGE, Arkansas State - PFF's #11 EDGE in the draft, he's only 6'2" and 240 lbs, but Bingham posted the highest pass-rushing grade in the country thanks to his ferocious spin move. Josh Oliver, TE, San Jose State - PFF's #5 TE in the class, he racked up 16 catches in contested situations this year, 4 more than the next closest TE and ranking among the top 10 of all pass-catchers. Te'Von Coney, LB, Notre Dame - PFF's #3 LB in the class, Coney missed just 17 tackles out of 319 attempts in his career. In the pass game, he allowed 16 first downs compared to 30 coverage stops. Jimmy Moreland, CB, James Madison - PFF's #11 CB in the class, PFF has limited film of him but was able to grade 5 of his games. In those games, he allowed 23 receptions on 46 targets, but also racked up 4 INTs and 3 PBUs. Max Scharping, OT, Northern Illinois - PFF's #7 OT in the class, he allowed 33 pressures over 1,894 pass-blocking snaps over the course of his career.

"Whoops, we forgot to include the starting QB." Sure.

One of the best WR prospects in the draft IMO