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I'd prefer Ed Oliver, but DK is probably my #2 realistic option so I'd be pretty happy with this. Having said that, who is this Gramling guy? I feel like I'm generally pretty well-versed on the draft community and I've never heard of him. This rationale makes sense, but it's also possible they just saw those two as potential buy-low candidates (especially in regard to Antonio Brown).

Yes, he's been with Seattle for almost a decade now.

If it's a "generational" anything (besides like a kicker/punter obviously), I'd probably lean that way over basically anything else. Quenton Nelson was one example of that IMO. As far as comparing between positions, obviously that's something that everyone has to do. IMO, Oliver is one of the top 2 or 3 prospects in this draft, so if he's on the board at 9, he's almost certainly my choice. DK is the #1 WR IMO and I think he's a borderline elite prospect. Positional value does factor in. For example, I have Devin White ahead of Metcalf on my big board, but for the Bills, I would take Metcalf between the two since Buffalo already has two talented young LBs. I would also factor salaries into the equation; that's the main reason why taking Saquon at #2 was so dumb IMO. With some positions, taking a guy at #9 means making him one of the highest paid at his position in the league as a rookie; that's just not really a good investment.

Isn't it possible that like a ton of other athletes, he also would like to live in NYC? Professional athletes wanting to play in New York isn't exactly shocking. The fact that it also might help his wife's career is a bonus.

I believe DK is a top 10 prospect, but I don't think he'll be BPA at #9. We'll see though. I personally would be happy if he were the pick but they can go in a lot of other directions that I'll still be happy with.

Vita Vea is their Star Lo basically; Quinnen would be McCoy's replacement. I kinda think they'd take Devin White even with Q on the board though.

Wouldn't he, Sanders, and Oruwariye all not count if that Penn State WR doesn't count? So based on that, we're at like 26 if I counted right.

I don't really see how it happens barring a trade up, but Quinnen is IMO the #1 player in this draft. Would be huge to add him to the team if they find a way (without giving up too much).

Based on this tweet, Miles Sanders wouldn't count as a top 30 visit either, right?

Are we both talking about Khalil Hodge? I think being optimistic, Johnson might sneak into the 4th. I think he'll at least be drafted at some point, though he seems to be rated outside the top 20 WRs in the draft by most people at this point. I'm less optimistic about Hodge; he was never viewed close to the same level of prospect as Johnson and he's probably hurt his stock worse in the lead up to the draft than Johnson did. Edit: It's difficult to find mocks that go deep enough to include Hodge, but a few sources: Matt Miller has him rated as the #41 off-ball LB in the draft with an undrafted grade - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2829000-nfl-draft-400-ranking-the-drafts-top-linebackers#slide10 Dane Brugler's 7 round mock has Hodge going undrafted - https://theathletic.com/909149/2019/04/08/dane-bruglers-mock-draft-5-0-projecting-all-seven-rounds-and-all-254-selections/ WalterFootball is the most optimistic that I've seen, ranking him as the #25 inside linebacker with a draft range of 5th-7th rounds (though this has him listed at a 4.72 40 when he didn't even hit 5 seconds at his Pro Day, which is generally faster than official times to boot) - https://walterfootball.com/draft2019ILB.php NFL.com has him graded as a UDFA (and I believe their #36 ILB prospect if I'm counting correctly) - https://www.nfl.com/prospects/khalil-hodge?id=3219484f-4425-7085-52f4-8666ba393f79 He's been constantly talked about throughout the year as a guy hoping to be taken on Day 3 and like I said, that was before he fell on his face at his pro day. It's still possible he gets drafted, but I would be blown away if anyone touches him on the first two days of the draft.

People kinda came in late to the party and assumed that DK Metcalf blew up after the NFL Combine. The fact of the matter is that he was viewed by many as the #1 WR prospect or close to for most of the year and his draft stock has probably declined since the combine if anything.

I would think he's a possibility as an UDFA guy. He was viewed as a 6th or 7th and that was before he absolutely tanked his pro day. At any rate, like one of the other posters said, they don't count against our 30 visits so it makes sense to bring them all in as long as we have the time to fit them in.

That BuffFanatics post is from Twitter but I don't see anything on Twitter or Instagram from Metcalf with that picture in it. I might be wrong and just haven't found it though. At any rate, probably doesn't mean anything beyond him getting a shirt from the team when he visited.

Where is that picture even from? It doesn't look like DK posted it on his social media accounts

We say that, but people knew about Josh Allen and Harrison Phillips last year. Buffalo doesn't appear to be without its leaks.

I don't really see why Williams couldn't hypothetically start from Day 1 at OG.

Definitely interesting to hear.

From today's Albert Breer article: https://amp.si.com/nfl/2019/04/11/nfl-cba-collective-bargaining-agreement-nflpa-jerry-jones-minneapolis?__twitter_impression=true

To be fair, that still makes him bigger than Hollywood Brown, who some still believe will be the first WR taken in the draft. And if you focus on just Isabella's games against what most would consider to be good competition (and let's not get it twisted, everyone has cupcakes on their schedules; just not as much as UMass due to their conference), you're left with 13 games, which is perfect because that's roughly how many games a college player generally plays in a season so you can get a gauge of what Isabella's numbers would have been if he only played against solid competition. In those 13 games, Isabella put up 82 receptions for 1,182 yards and 6 TDs while also adding 130 rushing yards; which would put him right up there with almost all of the other WRs in this class (and this collection of 13 games is probably stronger than most of these guys face in a given year). The list of opponents is below: Florida Boston College x2 Mississippi State x2 South Carolina Temple Tennessee Appalachian State Florida International x2 South Florida Georgia Having said all that, just because he put up good numbers in college doesn't necessarily mean he'll do the same in the NFL, but he has the physical skills to be good, has the production that would suggest he might be good, and other WRs that are just as small or smaller are considered among the best WR prospects in the class as well.

Is it bold to say that I think a WR will be taken in the top 10?

I'm pretty much always happy to trade down, but if we stay at #9, I don't really see any way that we end up in what I would categorize as "no man's land". There's more than 9 good players that would fit positions of need for us.

You're not really going to find that in this year's draft. I think Deebo Samuel might be the closest but he's two inches shorter than DeAndre and doesn't have the wingspan that DeAndre had. I think he's more or less got all of those attributes, but probably not as high-end as Hopkins is in any of them.

My personal top 5 is: DK Metcalf - Checks basically all of the boxes for me; can be a starter from Day 1 as mainly a vertical threat IMO with the potential to become an elite WR Deebo Samuel - Isn't the freakish athlete that Metcalf is but he's still strong, explosive, big and good hands, and a great route runner Stanley Morgan - My favorite potential value play at the position; might be the best route runner in the draft class, nailed every athletic measurement besides 40 time (which is still a decent 4.53), and has good hands as well N'Keal Harry - I'm still a bit wary of his separation skills and overall explosiveness, but great body control and contested catch ability as well as potentially being a YAC threat. Also love his relative youth and the fact that he was a difference maker at such a young age in college. Tyre Brady - Like Harry, I'm a bit wary of his separation skills and overall explosiveness, but I think his body control and hands are even better than Harry's. I was tempted to put Brady above Harry, but I think Harry has more YAC potential and Brady will have a red flag from getting into trouble early in his career. Honorable mentions (not in any particular order): Emanuel Hall, Andy Isabella, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Kelvin Harmon, Hakeem Butler I think the guys at WalterFootball have been discussing Campbell as a potential late 1st rounder most of the year, but yeah, it's definitely not the consensus.

Just comparing to last year, the games that are different are: Last year: Chargers - good Vikings - meh Packers - meh Texans - meh Colts - good Bears - good Jaguars - bad Lions - bad This year: Giants - bad Cowboys - good Redskins - bad Eagles - good Browns - good Steelers - good Bengals - bad Broncos - meh I think one of the Giants/Bengals will end up being more competitive than people expect, but either way, I think this year's slate is at least on par with last year's, if not more difficult. Jets should obviously be improved as well (while the Dolphins should be worse). Last year's schedule looked more difficult when it came out than this year's does, but the Jags, Vikings, and Packers were all pretty big disappointments. That could obviously happen this year too, but for now at least, I think this year's slate looks to be on par or stronger.

I don't know the Jets schedule, but I don't think the Bills schedule looks any easier than last year's. At the end of the day, I think the playoffs are only within reach if Allen takes a major step forwards (which is absolutely possible but not something I'm willing to count on).