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Highlighting a different section of the rule: Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is: forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the initial contact is lower than the player’s neck I can't believe we have people arguing that this is a bad call. It's a textbook penalty, and close to being suspension worthy. Hyde will probably get a fine

In this situation, the defender can aim the tackle somewhere below the receivers neck/head area. Hyde could hit him in his midsection and would still have a good chance of dislodging the ball This was a good call, and IMO the rule is a good thing for the game. Do we want more violent hits to players heads and more concussions?

Are we talking about the same play?

I'd recommend reading the rule that I posted. Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is: forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the initial contact is lower than the player’s neck Hyde put his shoulder into the receivers neck/head area. It does NOT need to be helmet on helmet to be a penalty. This was 100% the correct call. The NFL will probably add this hit to their video of examples of illegal hits...

This is literally a textbook penalty. https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/defenseless-player/ PLAYERS IN A DEFENSELESS POSTURE It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture. Players in a defenseless posture are: A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass (passing posture) A receiver attempting to catch a pass who has not had time to clearly become a runner. If the player is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is: forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the initial contact is lower than the player’s neck, and regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him He's clearly a defenseless player, and Hyde clearly put his shoulder into his helmet. 10 years ago that would've been a great defensive play. Nowadays that's a penalty 100% of the time.

I don't know if it's possible to overstate how bad the Jets are this season. The 18 points we scored is the least amount of points scored against the Jets so far this season. The 10 points the Jets scored is the 3rd most they've put up in a game. The Jets had the lead for more time in this game than the rest of the season combined. I'm happy we won, and I'm happy the defensive was dominant in the 2nd half. But, this won't be good enough against a team that's playing at even an average level. Bone headed penalties, terrible playcalling (4 runs by RB in the 1st half??), terrible clock management (including the Mcdermott special - using a defensive timeout for no apparent reason), multiple missed FGs, and 0-fer in the Red Zone. That's really not gonna cut it unless we get to play the Jets every week.

By what measure was KC's defense from last year worse than the Bills DEF this year? 2019 DEF rankings for KC Points against 7th Total yards allowed 17th Rushing yards allowed 26th Passing yards allowed 8th The only reason the Bills defense isn't bottom 5 across all categories this season is that we've played the historically inept Jets twice out of seven games.

A win is a win is a win, but dang. The game the Bills played isn't good enough to beat any team that's not a bottom feeder.

Bills 35 Jets 17 The Jets are one of the worst teams I've ever seen. If we don't win this I am giving up on the season.

John Brown had a pretty brutal drop on 3rd down on the first drive. If he makes a routine catch there we would've had a first down Overall I don't think Allen was as bad as the boxscore looks, or that Mahomes was as good as the boxscore looks. Allen was under constant pressure and had to throw the ball away a number of times. There were a few bad drops, and a few inaccurate balls that his WR could have bailed him out on, and there were a few flat out terrible throws. Allen lost a lot of yards to defensive penalties (holding or DPI). Mahomes had a very clean pocket for most of the night. He made some bad throws that his guys caught (Kelce catch for example). Not to say that Mahomes was bad, but he had a very pedestrian night.

Those are exactly the types of picks we could afford to give away. A 3rd+5th for an actual GOOD player on the defensive line. We're in a championship window with Allen on a rookie contract. We should be going all in this year and next year.

Why punish the people in florida/tenn/texas because they don't live under stricter guidelines set by the Governor? Well, like you said, life is not fair 😄

Doesn't mention the 4.4mm deadcap for this season

The 2018 Chiefs went 12-4 with 2 regular season wins over playoff teams. Mahomes threw for 5,000 yards, 50 TDs, and won the regular season MVP. They won a playoff game before losing in the AFCCG in OT to the eventual SB winning Patriots. I'd say they were pretty well established as an elite team.

1997-2020 would be 46 championship games, or 92 different chances for teams to play in championship games I'm more surprised that 8 teams haven't been there in that timeframe.

There's no evidence to suggest Star is important to this defense. In fact, all quantifiable evidence points towards Star not having much of an impact. I understand that being double teamed is a positive that won't show up on a stat sheet. But this guy has very few tackles, tackles for loss, sacks, QB pressures, and only played 46% of snaps last year. Getting double teamed on occasion doesn't suddenly make Star the pivotal part of this defense. So why did our defense get so much worse from 2019 to 2020 if Star wasn't a pivotal player? There's a lot of factors that go into it. In no particular order: J Philips leaves in free agency Shaq Lawson leaves in free agency Jerry Hughes is a year older Star opts out Offensive holding penalties are not being called to the same standard Strength of schedule Is Star a good player? That's debatable, but I don't think so. "Good" to me means better than average, and I think he's the definition of average. Is Star overpaid? That's an easy Yes Did Star opting out hurt the team? Yes. Even though I think Star is a JAG that could have been easily replaced, we didn't even try to find a replacement.

So Star played every first down, and every first down was a positive defensive play, leading to easier 2nd/3rd downs and being able to sub Star out? Wow, didn't realize he was even better than Aaron Donald

Was Star missed last year on the 54% of defensive snaps that he did not play on? I have a hard time believing a guy that played less than half of our defensive snaps had a sizeable impact.

Not saying Allen and the offense played well, but they played significantly better than the defense last night. This reminds me of some of the hot takes after the Bills vs Saints game that we lost 47-10. People trying to blame the loss solely on Tyrod when the DEF gave up 300 yards rushing and a TD on almost every Saints possession.

I was one of the more vocal people in saying that Star was overpaid, and I'll stick to my guns. There was too much turnover on the D-line this offseason to pinpoint how much of an impact Star had. In addition to Star opting out, we lost J Phillips and Shaq Lawson in free agency. I thought those three guys would've been easy enough to replace, but here we are.

I was one of the few people that said extending MCdermott was a mistake, and that we should've at least waited for him to finish out this season before doing so. Marvin Lewis is the perfect comparison - new coach comes in and brings a joke of a franchise up to respectability. However, he's only good enough to make the playoffs, but never win in the playoffs. This season has shown that we can beat low-end playoff teams (Raiders, Rams), but that we aren't that close to contending with Superbowl caliber teams (Titans, Chiefs). All that being said I do think Mcdermott is overrated on these boards. He's an average to slightly above average coach. People on here talking CoY candidate after week 4 were getting carried away

When did we have the ball with a chance to get the lead in the 4th quarter??? Is he counting the kickoff with the Bills down 17-23 ? Or maybe the overturned fumble call? Maybe someone can look this up, but I imagine getting 245 rushing yards and 37 minutes TOP will result in a win 95%+ of the time. And that's the BLUEPRINT to beat the Chiefs? Ok...

Chiefs 41 Bills 27 Our defense continues to play the way it has all season. Josh and the offense play OK but can't carry the team to victory.

The only thing the short fields did was hurt the Titans total yards by the end of the game. Titans had 6 TDs on 9 possessions. At what point does "bend but don't break" turn into "bend over and take it" ?

The announcers for the game were absolute trash. They had the narrative that it was a bad throw by Josh, and that he was forcing throws all night. The first INT wasn't a perfect throw, but it certainly wasn't a bad throw either. That's a catch 99% of the time in the NFL. Josh had a few bad throws (2nd INT being the worst), but Tannehill forced just as many throws. Josh had about 5 pretty routine NFL catches dropped whereas AJ Brown kept making contested catches for Tannehill.