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Nah. These guys are going for a young franchise caliber guy. They’ve talked from the beginning about “sustained success”. Not standing pat at 9-7, etc etc. They want a guy that will be here for 10-15years. Not 2-4years.

Not even. Ducasse and Miller can battle for guard spot (hopefully improve under new system). Groy can be the center. -Right Tackle is a need. -depth on the inside is a need, but can happen in the later rounds of the draft.

Man... best guess I’ve made in 2018!!!! whooooo!!!! Great deal!!!

Part of a move up to #12???

Beau Allen. screams process. Seems like an underrated signing that could have major upside. He’s been a rotational guy and is poised for a bigger role.

I think they’ll take whichever of Rosen or Darnold is there at #2 if they trade up.

Beau Allen at DT and Vinny Curry at Defensive end could be cheaper options that Philadelphia likely won’t be able to keep. Christian Jones from the Bears is an option st linebacker. I think whatever they try to add will will be on the cheaper end. originally I thought about a guy like Lotulelei, but he doesn’t really fit what they’ve shown they like to do. Mostly Cheap & young, they’ll go after some older guys, but the younger guys are the only types they’ll invest term & big money into. Hyde & Poyer are the key examples.

I think they’re trying to keep as many options open to themselves as possible. These signings help in that regard.

Only 26. 320lb defensive tackle from the Eagles. Played as a rotational #3 guy last season. Could he be a solid cheap option to start at the nose? Also a Wisconsin grad, I love linemen and linebackers from those Big10 schools (especially Wisconsin and Iowa).

I think it has to do with the contract. $10M cap hit for the next four years. This team is looking to get younger everywhere it can. And they’re also trying to max out their compensation pick formula, not sure if this would impact it, but if it does, that’s another reason.

Yea I don’t even want them to delve into the box that is Richard Sherman. Too high maintenance, too old, too injured, too expensive. Those are 4 HUGE no’s. I assume Beane & McDermott feel similarly so I’m not worried.

He’ll get cut. No one is giving up anything for an athletic tight end who has yet to show the ability to consistently catch the ball.

Typical Miami move. Now they just need to find someone to trade Landry to, cut Suh, find Tannehill’s replacement, etc etc. That organization seems to be chasing Shula’s hey-day.

Idk. He is extremely intelligent. Something like thise quotes tells me that he’s smart and he’ll say what needs to be said. Will he do what needs to be done? And can he do it while getting people to follow him because they want to, and not because he’s asking them to. That is my question with Rosen. I mean, if a team asks if you want to backup or challenge for the job, it’s very simple “I’m going to compete like I’m competing to start, but if I don’t win the job I’ll keep competing and be as good of a teammate as I can be.” I don’t see how you answer differently when being asked to compete for the job or simply be a backup. Also, Jeff Fisher? With quarterbacks? If I’m the agent I get him as far away from that guy as possible.

I like him a lot for two reasons; 1. His floor seems a lot higher than those of the other top-6 QB’s. His upside may be limited but I think he’ll be comparable to Cousins in terms of how his career goes, i.e. solid but unspectacular, a top 15QB but not a top 10QB 2. Of all the flaws of all the QB’s, his seem the least concerning. A. His arm isn’t strong enough: Answer: but he has enough to make all the throws (and is especially good with the deep ball). B. He plays in a spread against the Big12: Answer: Many people don’t realize Darnold was also playing a lot of spread & RPO this year. Mayfield as well, and also against Big12 defenses. Rosen and Allen played more pro-style. But the league is moving far more towards the spread and using RPO’s anyways. Meanwhile: Rosen- “Attitude” questions, and moreso, injury questions. He’s had multiple injuries and multiple concussions at UCLA. Darnold- Weird delivery. Small hands (by itself not always an issue). Led the nation in fumbles (AND that’s what makes it an issue). Prone to interceptions as well. Mayfield- Attitude could cause him to implode. Height is a concern. Not only that, his height causes restrictions on the type of offense that can be run. Developing the correct throwing lanes is vital with a guy his height, and therefore a play-action pro-style offense will likely be key, from a guy who hasn’t taken snaps from center. Allen- The inaccuracy is scary. That’s all I’ll say. He’s got the rocket but no touch. Jackson- I worry that he’s going to get injured. For such An amazing athlete, he’s incredibly lanky and I could see him getting injured early on in his career. Also the fact that I believe his play making ability, while an amazing asset, will always cause him to bail on plays too quickly and look to run. People want to compare him to Bryce Petty? I don’t see it. His throwing motion is better, he’s more accurate, his arm is stronger and he has a quicker release. He also seems to have the right attitude to lead a team, and that’s huge. Also, I think he’s probably right with Mayfield for being the most accurate short to intermediate passer. Along with the fact that I think he has the most accurate deep ball. If the price to move move up is too costly (and in my opinion it likely will be), I’d stay at 21 and take Rudolph. Put him in a competition with a veteran for a year (McCown? Bridgewater? Bradford? Keenum? Chase Daniel? Matt Moore? Derek Anderson?) and let him take the job when he’s learned a bit.

Craziest would be Cleveland taking QB at one and 4 and dealing one away for more value... that would be epic

I would love it. 4th Round? I see a lot of teams not really knowing where to put him.

Having listened to Beane talk about what they’re looking for in a quarterback, I don’t honk either guy fits the Bill. i could totally see them going after a vet like Bradford, McCown, even Bortles if he’s cut, and then drafting someone to sit behind the vet. Even Bridgewater is a possibility. As for draft quarterbacks, I think they’ll go after Darnold/Allen/Rudolph. I think Rudolph will interview well and he might have a better head for the game than most think.

Rudolph- System quarterback who doesn’t have as strong an arm as you’d expect for his size. Lived off of his talented receivers.

For those who don’t recall: Basically Eli Manning was the #1 QB. -San Diego had the first overall pick. -Eli said he’d rather sit out a year than play for the Chargers. -San Diego drafted Manning, and made a deal with the Giants after the fact. The Giants, selecting Philip Rivers, made the following trade; The New York Giants received: Eli Manning, QB The San Diego Chargers received: Philip Rivers, QB 2004 3rd-round pick (Nate Kaeding, PK) 2005 1st-round pick (Shawne Merriman, OLB) 2005 5th-round pick (traded to TB for Roman Oben, OT) Any chance the Browns do this with Rosen? Maybe select him 1st overall, and either find a partner to swap QB’s with, or since they have the pick, take another guy at #4 and then trade Rosen? I know now it’s complicated and unlikely, but if they believe he’s the best quarterback, I could see their reasoning for taking the player regardless of what he says about playing for them.

So many rumors now I don’t know what to believe. A couple weeks ago it was that McDermott really liked Mayfield’s demeanor on the field during the senior bowl. Last week it was this rumor rumor about trading up for Rosen. This week the word is they like Allen. Before the draft process heated up, word was the regime was truly ensnared with Darnold. I think they’re doing a good job of keeping their hand close to the vest.

Sign Vontae, bring back Leonard Johnson, sign TJ Carrie as a nickel back and draft a project guy in the later rounds.

To the OP: I think you have it down in spades. One thing I will contest though. Passing deep isn’t only about strength, it’s also about accuracy, touch and anticipation. I think those factors make Rudolph the best downfield passer in the class. He might not throw 30yards downfield with the most velocity, but he gets it to his man in tight windows (yes, he does) and puts it in a spot where the receiver can run after the catch. I think exactly like you do though. Darnold is their number 1. But he’ll go to Cleveland. Mayfield has too many height & character questions. Rosen has too many injury & character questions. Allen has too many accuracy, and pocket presence questions (he bails our way too much for my liking). Rudolph will be their #2, also because of the fact he won’t likely be picked in the top 15, maybe even not the 1st round, but QB’s always go earlier than anticipated.

I see your point. But I’m also hoping we’ll have a staff that can coach to strengths. And I think Rudolph is better than Petty, and will need a lot of shotgun, especially to start. I know that’s not necessarily “pro-style”, but look at how often Brady is in shotgun. And look at what McVay was doing for Goff, basically calling the plays AND audibles from the sidelines. Foles came from an air-raid. As did Keenum. Mahomes as well. Im just not as scared of the “spread” guys because it’s becoming more and more of a spread league. This is from an article by Jared Dublin of CBS sports (granted 2015 publishing date, but it’s still repevant): “NFL coaches have also known this would happen for a good, long while. Bill Walsh, the Godfather of the West Coast Offense, wrote the following in his book, Finding the Winning Edge, about the future of NFL offenses: Teams will huddle only when the clock is stopped. Teams will use single-world offensive audibles. The quarterback will receive direction from the coach at the line of scrimmage. Because the ball can be put into play at any moment, the defense must commit itself with its front and coverage. The quarterback will look to the sideline the instant the whistle blows on the previous play to see which personnel combination is entering the game. The designated coach indicates the formation to the quarterback and whether he should audible his own play or will receive a play call from the coach. All of these steps will occur without a huddle. The quarterback will have even more latitude in audibling at the line of scrimmage. His decisions will override those by the coach signaling in a play call. That sounds a whole lot like the spread, no-huddle offense run by, say, the Patriots, who famously use a one-word system for calling plays when they do go no-huddle that Belichick adopted from college offenses. That certainly makes it easier to communicate the calls, and it again gives Brady more time to read the defense at the line of scrimmage without having to blurt out a mouthful of a play call.”

I don’t know. Kind of seems like Galko is just throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks. His evidence of their interest was, 1) that he’s heard from people (although no one in the organization), that the Bills like him. 2) they’ve scouted him multiple times my reply would be 1) who is “they”, is it just a regional scout of something? Or is it someone like Beane. These scouting staffs aren’t small, they have groups of people who have varying interest in different players. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were people in the organization who had each of the top guys at the top of their own personal list. 2) Beane has scouted Rudolph multiple times himself this season. Does that mean they’re in love with him? Maybe. But it doesn’t prove anything either.