BuffaloBillyG

Yeah, that's my thing. I don't believe he's going to be asked to run straight line deep routes very much. So how does Brady use him and what can they do to incorporate what he does do well. Out routes? Hook routes? I think he's going to feast in that 11-20 yard range...and I don't think anyone is going to out hustle or out work him to the ball. That was always a big complaint I had with Gabe Davis. Seemed like far too often when a DB got position on him to make a play on the ball Gabe was a bit passive. Resulted it a fairly high INT% when targeted. I don't see that problem with Coleman.

Man , this debate brings back memories of the whole Stevie Johnson..is he a TRUE #1 receiver or just the guy with the most targets debate from years ago😂

True, but I don't foresee them using Coleman in the return game too often if at all. He'll have a good size role on offense to prepare for every week IMO.

To be fair sometimes it's a double edge sword. Play zone and Josh can find the soft spot....but everyone on defense is facing the QB and can react if Allen runs. Play man and most of your defense turns to run with their guy and no one has eyes on Allen...and he bucks for 20 yards. Pick your poison.

I can say this. I know that's what you were hoping for out of Sherfield and Harty. That's because you're pretty level headed and realistic. I can't say the same for everyone and some of the debates I had here people had them ready to replicate Brown/Beasley numbers or better which was a little over the top on my assessment.

With the new kickoff rules this is a way for him to get a jersey on Sundays.

For all the talk about lack of separation...I don't see anyone talking about his ability to find open spots against a zone look.

But only as himself.

Here's where I am at. I personally couldn't care less about the trade value and who got what in points according to a chart. As you touched on, the Chiefs moved up and of the WRs left aside from the Big 3 and the one the Jags took, decided which one they wanted most and moved to get him. They dictated who they got. Beane alluded to Coleman being the "last or the WRs that were on Josh's list that he liked". I'm just going to theorize for a second that the final 4 on the list came down to Worthy, Leggette, Pearsall and Coleman because those were the final picks at WR before Buffalo picked. They allowed KC to come grab who they wanted. SF took one. Leaving 2. Buffalo allowed Carolina to grab Leggette. They in a sense allowed the market to dictate to them who they would be selecting. One GM made his choice and got his guy. "Leftover Beane's" sat back and sure, got back into the 3rd round but really lost his chance to make his choice on his own. Now, right choice or wrong choice for KC, that remains to be seen. But the fact they MADE it makes it a respectable move.

If by "work together" it means play golf and smash wings then I buy it. That's all QB1 does all off season. /s

I think I see what Beane is trying to do with WRs. A great ability to have is unpredictability. It's good to have the ability to spread the ball around, find the mismatches and exploit them. However, I'm kind of tired of the constant questions at WR. Last year was "hoping" Sheffield and Harty were more than they had ever been. They weren't. Or "hoping" John Brown or Cole Beasley could be brought back mid season and regain their past play. They didn't. "Hoping" Gabe Davis could take the step to be a consistent #2 WR and possibly one day a #1. He couldn't. So on and so forth. I get it, not every spot can be filled with an NFL All-Pro. Role players are useful. Just once though I would love to have more answers than questions at WR. This year it's "How will Coleman fit?" It's "Man, maybe Shavers or Short can step up". "Can Andy Isabella have a late age growth spurt and make it to 5'5" tall?" "Can KJ Hamler (who I do think at least has some potential skill) stop doing Marquise Goodwin impressions?" Just one year can we not have Josh Allen throwing to the Island of the Misfit Toys?

I think between the 2, Ill join Team Hamler. And I'm not really happy about being on Team Hamler as a WR hope because of the injuries. But here we are

Underwhelming. Very underwhelming.

Care to expound on this?

Saying every other pick is a bit overzealous, and I think you're intelligent enough to know that. And while there were a few good picks in round 2 that draft there are a lot of misses early (rounds 1 and 2). Without the time this morning to contrast and compare earlier seasons it looks to the eye to be a higher number of misses league wide then an average year. When you combine the lack of normalcy that year with what looks in retrospect to have been a fairly weak draft class, yeah, it played into that pick.

Wasn't Boogie drafted off the COVID off season? You know, the one that GMs couldn't go to Pro Days, do as much deep digging as usual? Couldn't get in person with the draftees? You know, the season that NFL GMs were pretty much relegated to having only slightly more information available to them than fans normally do? And they missed on that pick? Shocker.

This drives me crazy as well. It's like for years whenever there's a really good LBer in the draft we have to hear people say "Well McD has to have him so he has his Luke Keuchley". Teams that are coached well evolve to the players on the team. They change over time based on a number of things to include how the the league changes. 4 years ago the Diggs/Davis combo was not a bad set of skillets to have at WR. Now with defenses showing more deep looks and taking away the big play what is offense turning into? WR screens. Hello Curtis Samuel. Tougher contested catches and plays in the middle of the field. Hello Keon Coleman. Some pounding runs to keep ahead of the sticks. Hello Ray Davis and Pran-Granger. Sure, we need someone that can stretch the field and be that deep threat. Let's see if they bring in a DJ Chark for that. If KJ Hamler can stay healthy I'm not sleeping on him either. This offense is setting up to play against what NFL defenses are evolving to. Will it work? Time will tell. But I think they are moving in the right direction.

DJ Chark. Speed with boundary experience. Former Panther FWIW as well ..lol In all seriousness, Chark isn't a star but he makes a lot of sense.

I really thought that said we signed @GunnerBillfor a second. May need to find my reading glasses.

Not dismissing him. Anything can happen. But even late picks that have played the sport their whole life, trained and have experience for 15 years have difficulty making a career for themselves. Doing it while trying to learn and train your body at the highest level of the sport adds many new layers of difficulty and unlikeliness. Anything can happen for sure. The road just is a bit tougher.

Cool. Now lost off every International Pathway player and judge the success rate on the whole. Or do you also profess that pick 199 is the best pick of any draft because of Tom Brady?

Not for nothing, but I feel like the majority of picks spent on the International Pathways players are just wasted picks.

LMAO!!! They just did him on Stump the Truck. And they had video on him😂😂😂