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No brainier to me. Hopefully we get to see what he can do without foot/ankle problems for an entire season. He seems to start off great year in and year out before some kind of injury hampers him.

Good episode. Glad to see Moulds staying active. Shakir working with him can only pay dividends. He seems like a good kid. Very hard working and likable. Have to lose a tad bit of respect over the way he likes his steak...but he seems to have married well. His wife was the star of the show. Makes dad jokes and isn't afraid to grill? How that translates to year 3 development remains to be seen. Well done, Khalil.

Keyon has to be faster then Keon. Right?

You mean his stats went down later in the season as weather worsened, his #1 receiver disappeared and his #2 WR ended up not playing due to injury? Shocking. His TD passing numbers went down (yet he still ran for a bunch...but we shall discount that because....reasons). Buffalo also faced a Dallas defense that required Josh to basically not have anything as far as stats. But let's discount that as well. Numbers are great but they never tell the whole story. Numbers often scratch the surface of what's happening. It's the "why" the numbers are what they are that add context and meaning. The only number you offer is his "rating" which I find a poor way to evaluate a QB in this era. The top 5 QBs last year in rating were Purdy, Prescott, Tua, Lamar and Stroud. Unless you think those are the best 5 QBs in the NFL...it says something for how the rating system works, doesn't it? Metrics are nice and there is absolutely a place for them when reviewing a player. But it's part of the puzzle.

Bills-Steelers from 2022. The game where Gabe Davis had the 98 yard TD along with the 62 yard TD. His best regular season performance. Josh went over 400 yards passing. We smack the Steelers and their new QB Kenny Pickett 38-3. That whole game was a party in the stands.

Yeah, a lot of people see "arm strength" as being the same as being a deep ball thrower. It's not. I've never seen Josh as being particularly great at throwing deep passes that are on the mark. He'll hit some but many are off target. Josh's arm strength is apparent in the way that he can fit the ball into smaller windows later in the play than others can. It's the pop in the pass that gets the ball to his guy on a 15 yard out way faster than most QBs. After watching Josh it sometimes feel other guys are throwing lobs. Also due to modern defense and the way teams have moved more to the 2 deep shell against QBs that pose the big play threat like Allen and Mahomes...the opportunity for the deep play just aren't available. Trying against that look results in the outcome we saw week 1 against the Jets. Incompletions and "arm punts". So what's our offensive philosophy? It's going to have to be working the short to intermediate. Staying patient. And if an opportunity for a big play presents itself...to identify and take advantage. And Josh played some of the best ball of his career down the stretch last year doing just that.

Yeah, he's got some YAC ability. And he looks to be tough to bring down in the open field. Pretty intense guy that stays on his feet for extra yards...doesn't slide down in front of tacklers. He and Allen are going to feed off each others energy on the field. Looking forward to see what he does

If he's healthy, I see Kincaid. Biggest shocker IMO is going to be that NONE of the Bills pass catchers will go over 1,000. But they end up with 5 guys all over 650yards. This year IMO will be all about spreading the ball and not being predictable. When a big play is needed...look for a mismatch and exploit it

Yeah, that's my thing. I don't believe he's going to be asked to run straight line deep routes very much. So how does Brady use him and what can they do to incorporate what he does do well. Out routes? Hook routes? I think he's going to feast in that 11-20 yard range...and I don't think anyone is going to out hustle or out work him to the ball. That was always a big complaint I had with Gabe Davis. Seemed like far too often when a DB got position on him to make a play on the ball Gabe was a bit passive. Resulted it a fairly high INT% when targeted. I don't see that problem with Coleman.

Man , this debate brings back memories of the whole Stevie Johnson..is he a TRUE #1 receiver or just the guy with the most targets debate from years ago😂

True, but I don't foresee them using Coleman in the return game too often if at all. He'll have a good size role on offense to prepare for every week IMO.

To be fair sometimes it's a double edge sword. Play zone and Josh can find the soft spot....but everyone on defense is facing the QB and can react if Allen runs. Play man and most of your defense turns to run with their guy and no one has eyes on Allen...and he bucks for 20 yards. Pick your poison.

I can say this. I know that's what you were hoping for out of Sherfield and Harty. That's because you're pretty level headed and realistic. I can't say the same for everyone and some of the debates I had here people had them ready to replicate Brown/Beasley numbers or better which was a little over the top on my assessment.

With the new kickoff rules this is a way for him to get a jersey on Sundays.

For all the talk about lack of separation...I don't see anyone talking about his ability to find open spots against a zone look.

But only as himself.

Here's where I am at. I personally couldn't care less about the trade value and who got what in points according to a chart. As you touched on, the Chiefs moved up and of the WRs left aside from the Big 3 and the one the Jags took, decided which one they wanted most and moved to get him. They dictated who they got. Beane alluded to Coleman being the "last or the WRs that were on Josh's list that he liked". I'm just going to theorize for a second that the final 4 on the list came down to Worthy, Leggette, Pearsall and Coleman because those were the final picks at WR before Buffalo picked. They allowed KC to come grab who they wanted. SF took one. Leaving 2. Buffalo allowed Carolina to grab Leggette. They in a sense allowed the market to dictate to them who they would be selecting. One GM made his choice and got his guy. "Leftover Beane's" sat back and sure, got back into the 3rd round but really lost his chance to make his choice on his own. Now, right choice or wrong choice for KC, that remains to be seen. But the fact they MADE it makes it a respectable move.

If by "work together" it means play golf and smash wings then I buy it. That's all QB1 does all off season. /s

I think I see what Beane is trying to do with WRs. A great ability to have is unpredictability. It's good to have the ability to spread the ball around, find the mismatches and exploit them. However, I'm kind of tired of the constant questions at WR. Last year was "hoping" Sheffield and Harty were more than they had ever been. They weren't. Or "hoping" John Brown or Cole Beasley could be brought back mid season and regain their past play. They didn't. "Hoping" Gabe Davis could take the step to be a consistent #2 WR and possibly one day a #1. He couldn't. So on and so forth. I get it, not every spot can be filled with an NFL All-Pro. Role players are useful. Just once though I would love to have more answers than questions at WR. This year it's "How will Coleman fit?" It's "Man, maybe Shavers or Short can step up". "Can Andy Isabella have a late age growth spurt and make it to 5'5" tall?" "Can KJ Hamler (who I do think at least has some potential skill) stop doing Marquise Goodwin impressions?" Just one year can we not have Josh Allen throwing to the Island of the Misfit Toys?

I think between the 2, Ill join Team Hamler. And I'm not really happy about being on Team Hamler as a WR hope because of the injuries. But here we are

Underwhelming. Very underwhelming.

Care to expound on this?