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I see your point. However, that same point would make me question why he wasnt more productive under Daboll in college.

Kubiak is still incredibly influential in that organization, so I wouldn't say there is much of a difference between Kubiak's guy and Elway's guy. Bottom line is they weren't going to pay six million dollars across their 2nd and 3rd sting quarterbacks. So they chose to keep the 1st round pick who had a couple of years left on his contract, rather than the 7th round pick who is a free agent next year.

The only linebacker that comes to mind is Anthony Barr, and even he is a tad slower than Edmunds (4.54 vs. 4.66).

None of that is relegated to Christians or Conservatives. Everything you mentioned above is a product of humans, not a product of faith. I would also say that the hedonism displayed by those hiding under the guise of loving education and the environment has been just as destructive to society as misguided faith. The Black Panthers fought for racial equality while loving guns and enslaving women. Liberals spouted free love and expanding your mind while trading STDs and developing drug addictions; in some of the most extreme cases robbing banks and blowing up government buildings. But that was heoric because it was clothed in changing the world. Bottom line is people are incredibly flawed and it didnt take being a Christian. You just happen to assign the root cause to things you personally dislike, which is another flaw in humans.

Didn't the Bills do a very similar thing a few years back? I vaguely remember someone from this discipline coming into training camp to work on hand to hand combat in the hopes it would improve the Defensive Lineman's hand speed and strength.

Sometime before the 2016 season Bill Polian called the Offensive Line here old and slow, he was absolutely hammered for it. Two years later, Glenn is gone because of injury and rumors he got lazy after his contract. Wood is gone because of injury, Incognito is gone because "his body couldnt take it anymore, Miller cant win a starting job and I doubt anyone here is going to go to bat and say very much positive about Mills. Obviously the Wood injury is a freak type of thing, but I don't think Polian's assessment was that far off back then.

I think thats true for the most part, but look at the situation in Jacksonville.

I broke my lamp the night of Wide Right. I was 8.

A team that is only trying to win now will have to tear down and rebuild five years from now, unless they have a franchise QB. A team that is only building for the future will have no success in short term, unless they have a franchise QB. With any business you have to strike a balance between start up success and long term viability, and that's what "the process" is about. The process in this case was about trading up to #7 to get a quarterback a lot of people thought would go #1 to the Browns, bottom line. Beane and McDermott understood they could pay a risk adverse QB 16 million a year, build a strong defense and win 8-9 games a year and hope for the playoffs, but Tyrod wasnt going to win you a championship. This isn't about McCaron, Peterman or even Tremaine Edmunds. This is 100% about Josh Allen.

Call it what you will. I just preferred not to pay a quarterback 16 million dollars a year to do what Tyrod does. His quarterbacking in the playoff game set the forward pass back a half century. I cannot believe any fan who watched him play the last three years would sign up for it again. But, different eyes see different things I suppose.

Even if we end up with the #1 pick I will not be praying for the return of Tyrod Taylor.

Sadly my degree is in English Lit.

Agreed, but to your point you have no first hand knowledge of him to say otherwise, right? If responses on messageboards were based on 1st hand knowledge we would all be NFL Executives or Journalists. My opinion, which in reality means nothing and no one is paying for, is based on what I saw of the guy over the last year. Like I said, just my opinion.

And confidence is important. But confidence has to have deep roots or its just arrogance. I think it's a big deal for a person's confidence to grow with a strong base of understanding who you are. It's the difference between Rex and McDermott. I loved Rex, but after awhile it become clear his confidence had no depth to it and people dont respond to that type of confidence. I think we will see the same thing with Rosen.

If Josh Rosen won more games, threw less interceptions, and didn't miss multiple games because of injury his politics and intelligence wouldn't be an issue. Rosen may be a genius, but the narrative about how wordly and smart the guy is when compared to his actual comments seem misguided. I think he comes across as an immature kid who has no idea who is. If you're looking for a guy to lead a team you don't want a person who blows in the wind not someone who is constantly searching for who they are. Rosen comes across as the guy who wants to discuss philosophy at length to show you how smart he is, but has no actual idea about real life. Just my opinion. And just for the record the comparison to Callaway is inane. Rosen didnt drop to round three, he was picked 10th overall, so NFL Executives werent that terrified of him.

To start the year I think Jake Browning has earned the right to be considered the #1 QB. I think that changes as the year progresses and Drew Lock eventually becomes the number 1 guy, but that will depend a lot of his ability to increase his completion % and win some games at Mizzou. Ryan Finley gets a lot of hype, but I think he is a consistent yet underwhelming prospect. Think he is more of a late 1st round guy. One guy to keep an eye on is Andrew Ford from UMASS. Plays at a terrible program, but he has all the tools.

Given the fact that only about 30% of Quarterbacks become good players in the NFL, any player who "makes it" is the anomaly.

No thank you. He is a five sack a year guy who doesn't play the run well. There is a reason the Broncos jumped alll over Bradley Chubb when he dropped.

I mentioned this in another thread. I think its very realistic to think the Bills could be picking #1 next April. In terms of Bosa vs Bosa, Nick may have a year like no other, but I would say currently he doesn't measure up to Joey as a prospect. He isn't as good against the run, and he isn't as good as a passer rusher.

I think the team is setup well long term. My worry is more about the short term. In my opinion, there is a real chance the Bills end up with the first overall pick in 2019.

Not sure Foster makes the team. Not a productive guy in college, and the speed stuff is a bit overblown. Of the long shots I think Cam Phillips has a better shot, but the competition in camp should be fun to watch.

Lol, the moment everyone knew it was probably over for poor EJ.

So he is playing quarterback or kicker?

Anyone else hate linebacker numbers in the 40s?

Christian Kirk.