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And just last week we had people complaining that we should just abandon the run & go all-in on passing since that's our bread & butter. Bad idea. When Josh is throwing 40-50 times, it doesn't bode well for the offense. Obviously, he needs to take care of the ball better as well (he said as much), but have to find a way to keep the run game going throughout the game & not just give up when we're not getting much of a push.

The last 2 weeks haven't exactly been a great endorsement of Allen... This "easy" schedule sure isn't working out right.

I don't care who's better in whatever time frame you want to count, I'd still rather have Mahomes' accomplishments (50 TD/MVP season, 2 x SB appearances, 1 x SB win) than anything any other QB has done in the league over the same time frame. This board has hated Mahomes since he blew up the first year he started. There's a rooting interest in his failure & an understandable bias. That said, I love both the guys, except when we play the Chiefs. Then Mahomes can suck it.

That's what I'm hoping. People are too complacent thinking everyone that gets it just recovers & feels fine again, but it can take a LOT out of you (or worse). I feel like Josh knows this, and wouldn't want to risk being out of the lineup for even one game, let alone weeks or more. Dawkins still isn't back to his old self, and it could've been worse. Just hope everyone's ok, and that he & Trubisky don't miss any pivotal games.

Stats is what really put over Rodgers vs Allen last year, and yes & no - I included Josh's stats for that day against Miami (but didn't include the stats for the others like Brady who was still playing, Dak Prescott who has only played 6 games yet has comparable numbers, and Derrick Henry, who was still playing...though now is injured). So Josh is behind Brady & Stafford, even if you gave him an 8th game (especially not factoring in Brady's last game). And even though I personally don't feel like Lamar is in contention at this point, I know the voters do, and he'll likely shoot up even more if his rushing total is like last year's (he's also only played 7 games too). But like I said, I still think Josh is very much in the running & if he plays well through this stretch of weaker opponents the wins & numbers should shoot him up to the top with Brady & Stafford.

You have to look at what other players are doing & not focus in on just Josh. In a bubble, and compared to past Bills QB's, he looks fantastic. But when numbers are so inflated across the league, and damn near half the QB's pass for 300+ yards a game any given Sunday, it's a lot harder to breakout as a front-runner. Here's some others at the moment: 1. Kyler Murray - 2,276 passing yards / 72.7% comp% / 20 total TD's / 7 total TO's / 285 ypg / 110.4 RTG 2. Tom Brady - 2,275 passing yards / 67.0% comp % / 22 total TD's / 3 total TO's / 325 ypg / 108.2 RTG (today's game not included yet, so add another 300+ & 4 TD's) 3. Matt Stafford - 2,477 passing yards / 68.9% comp%/ 22 total TD's / 4 total TO's / 310 ypg / 116.7 RTG 4. Aaron Rodgers - 1,894 passing yards / 67.1% comp%/ 19 total TD's / 3 total TO's / 237 ypg / 105.7 RTG 5. Josh Allen - 1,972 passing yards / 65.4% comp% / 20 total TD's / 4 total TO's / 287 ypg / 103.6 RTG Then for rushing, we've got the obvious: 6. Derrick Henry - 869 rushing yards/ 4.6 avg. / 11 total TD's / 124.1 ypg / 154 receiving yards/ 1 total TO (through only 7 games...) Just for the hell of it, let's look at receiver too: 7. Cooper Kupp - 924 receiving yards/ 63 receptions / 14.7 avg. / 10 total TD's / 115.5 ypg / 0 total TO's (that's more than double our top WR) So, yeah, Josh is in the conversation for sure, but he's not the front runner in any category. He's keeping pace in terms of total TD's, and as much as people want to slobber over Lamar Jackson, Josh looks leaps & bounds better (Lamar has 1,943 passing yards & 480 rushing yards, but has only 12 TD's to 7 INT's & is 17th in passer RTG/ 11th in QBR, both well below Josh). But we all know MVP conversation leans towards wins as well. That's where Josh could have an advantage if the others falter. Brady & Stafford's numbers are going to be huge, but the Bucs just loss to the Saints, and the Rams still have the Titans, Cardinals, Packers & Ravens on their schedule. If Josh can just keep pace, the end of the season matchup against Brady & the Bucs might be the last push he needs.

Comments like this show this board is bipolar... After the Pittsburgh game, it was all about how making Josh do everything & throwing 40-50 times is going to screw us, and now we're wanting to be one-dimensional again? Wasn't there a post on here a few weeks ago with a coach talking about why running is important, even when you're only getting 1-2 yards a play, that had a million upvotes & everyone saying "see, this is why we need to run more!" Yet after a bad showing, we're back to wanting Josh to face off against defenses that drop everyone into coverage & hope for the best...

Good point, I clearly had a lapse in judgement with that one.

I mentioned in my original post Montreal over Toronto for the sheer fact its less likely to clash with existing NFL territories while also being a very large metro area. Toronto is where the NFL would've loved to see the Bills move, but the city strikes me more as an LA type, where people have so many options on things to do & an expansion NFL team would only move the needle if the team is good. And with Tornoto being only an hour & 40 min drive from Buffalo, it's too close to a neighboring small market & risks jeopardizing another NFL franchise. Montreal on the other hand, would rank as the 15th largest metro area overall if in the US, ranking above Seattle, Minneapolis, Denver, San Diego, Baltimore, San Antonio, etc. & just slightly below San Francisco, Phoenix & Detroit, with a metro population of over 4.3 million people. The CFL is 2nd most popular sporting league in Canada (behind the NHL), and unlike Toronto, actually supports their team. A city like that being awarded the Canada's first & only NFL franchise would be a huge source of pride & easily supported, rather than the lukewarm or general disinterest I'd expect given Toronto's reputation. When Canadians talk about great CFL fan bases, Montreal is often mentioned among them, while Toronto & BC are cited as weaker fan support. Toronto has the Raptors for the NBA, the Blue Jays for the MLB, the Maple Leafs for the NHL, and dozens of other things to fight over people's attention. Montreal has the Canadiens. Give a large 4+ million population who's passionate about football the country's own NFL team, and I believe they'd be heavily supported from day 1, with the added benefit of not cannibalizing's an existing team like the Bills' market.

I referenced world cities in the original post. I mentioned how London may be what the NFL wants, but due to logistics & pushback from players/coaches, I don't see it happening. Then I mentioned Montreal as a better option than Toronto, as it doesn't clash with an existing small market NFL team's region & has a large metro area (4 million+). The only other one I considered was Mexico City, but for whatever reason, the NFL hasn't seemed to express much interest in pursuing that route (just a game played there once in a blue moon).

But he was still one of the best linemen in the league over his tenure here. Severely underrated & often forgotten Bills player. Named to the Pro Bowl 8 straight years (9 overall), was an All-Pro several times, I just feel he's rarely mentioned among Bills greats having played post-Super Bowl runs & before the drought got into full swing.

Well, he's only 27. Give it 8 more years... He can make his triumphant return to the NFL & pull a Doug Flutie, taking the league by storm for a cool 2-3 years, redeeming himself in the process as he leads the Jaguars to the Super Bowl.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/09/could-st-louis-emerge-from-rams-relocation-case-with-an-expansion-team/ Relevant Quotes from the article: "As the powers-that-be come to grips with the power they don’t have in a Missouri court that will conduct a trial of the litigation challenging the move of the Rams to L.A., the possibility of an expansion team as part of a potential settlement of the case has been floated in league circle with the stature and influence to float such concepts." "...a new team for St. Louis could be dangled as a way to wrap up the case." "If the NFL would promise a new team within, for example, five or 10 or 15 years, the league would likely find another place to park a new team, bumping the league from 32 to 34 franchises." ********************************** Oh man, that's an exciting prospect! It would certainly make things a bit more complicated, as 8 divisions consisting of 4 teams is basically perfect, but going to 33 opens up a whole new can of worms breaking up that balance. As the population of the country continues to grow, it becomes more & more viable for new cities to get their own franchise. If we're being honest, many cities that are considered "small markets" by modern standards are now larger than a lot of others that got teams 50+ years ago. Buffalo may be a small city in terms of population, but the metro-area keeps it in the top 50 (49th overall, Buffalo/Niagra Falls - 1,167,000 population). But some other larger metro markets include: 13. Riverside/San Bernadino/Ontario - 4,940,000 17. San Diego/Chula Vista/Carlsbad - 3,300,000 22. Orlando/Kissimmee/Sanford - 2,675,000 24. San Antonio/New Braunfels - 2,560,000 25. Portland/Vancouver/Hillsboro - 2,513,000 28. Austin/Round Rock/Georgetown - 2,285,000 37. Virginia Beach/Norfolk/Newport News - 1,800,000 41. Oklahoma City, OK - 1,425,000 44. Richmond, VA - 1,315,000 45. Louisville/Jefferson County - 1,285,000 47. Salt Lake City, UT - 1,258,000 If you just look at city populations (Buffalo - 76th Overall), you got cities like: 7. San Antonio, TX - 1,581,000 11. Austin, TX - 974,000 14. Colombus, OH - 905,000 (but does Ohio need a 3rd NFL team, nah...) 22. Oklahoma City, OK - 681,000 23. El Paso, TX - 680,000 25. Portland, OR - 652,500 (barely less than Boston) 29. Louisville, KY - 633,000 39. Omaha, NE - 486,000 43. Virginia Beach, VA - 460,000 These are all larger than cities like Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Cleveland, Tampa, New Orleans, Minneapolis, Oakland, etc.). Hell, you could even throw Honolulu in there, as I'm sure that'd be a fun & unique spot for a team in the NFC/AFC West (population 350,000 with a state population of 1.5 million). Even the city I live in has only 20,000 less people than Buffalo (Lubbock, TX) and over double that of Green Bay's 107,000 population. If you give an expansion team to St. Louis, the optimal number to EVENTUALLY (key word) get to would be 40. Article states 34, but that would ideally grow over time. So who would the 7 best locations be for future expansions be? As we've seen time & time again, cities that are large don't necessarily = best fan bases or fan turnout & support. I think it's crucial to the success of a new team to have a dedicated, fully supportive crowd than just sheer potential numbers. You can put the Chargers in LA, but with so much to do in such a massive city, it's harder to fill out a 25,000 soccer stadium with interest fans than it would be for a smaller town to put up nearly triple that number. Unless the team is a front-runner, turnout will be dim. And in today's NFL, TV rights & marketing agreements generate most of the revenue anyway. Teams like Pittsburgh & Green Bay (and to a lesser extent Buffalo) didn't grow a national fanbase because their cities were big after all, it's the culture & connection to the teams, and those fans are who you want to attract. With that being said, the 7 other locations outside of St. Louis I'd like to see get an expansion team, even if 20 years down the line, would be: 1. San Diego, CA - They had one, they got screwed, and they still deserved one. City even offered to pony up half the funds to contribute towards a new stadium, but Spanos had his eyes set on LA) 2. Austin, TX - Been there a million times, can easily fill out a 100k stadium for UT games, and aren't "Cowboys territory" as Jerry would like to believe. 3. Portland, OR - They have the Trailblazers in the NBA & are passionate fans. City would love for another major pro organization to drop a team there. 4. San Antonio, TX - Another TX location, but one that makes complete sense. Top 7th largest city in population, top 25 in total metro population, diehard fans, support the Spurs like their own children, supported the displaced Saints after Katrina, and are further away from Dallas than Houston is, so no, not Cowboys country (unless Houston counts as Cowboys country too). 5. Oklahoma City, OK - Higher population than cities like Atlanta, KC, Miami, etc., combine it with Tulsa's Metro & you're at 2,450,000 people as the entire state's team. They sure as hell support the NBA's Thunder, and live & die by Oklahoma & Oklahoma State football. A pro team would kill it there. 6. Omaha, NE - The Cornhuskers fill out a 90,000 capacity stadium & are passionate fans. This idea is more "I just think it's cool," as I'd like some of those midwestern states to have some rep closer to home. Nebraska (2 cities in top 100 population), South/North Dakota (Sioux Falls/Fargo), Iowa (Des Moines), Kansas (Wichita), etc. all could have a centered team within its sphere of influence. You know, for all those rural folks 7. Montreal, Quebec - Screw Toronto, Montreal should be the first international NFL team. Population of 1,800,000 with a 4,250,000 metroplex. Nearby other places like Ottawa (another 1,000,000+ people), and neighboring Vermont & New Hampshire, it'd provide an international appeal that Canadians can rally behind (that doesn't interfere with the Bills) as well as giving those poor souls who are told they're supposed to cheer for the Boston... I mean "New England" Patriots, a real home team. Obviously, the NFL has a big interest in London, but the logistics just make that a nightmare. They may force it eventually, but I think it'll leave a lot of people (particularly players & coaches) unhappy. If they're going to fly overseas, I'd rather go with something like Honolulu like I referenced above. Anyway, post turned out into another one of my long-winded rants. A lot of probably bad suggestions in there, but I think any number of these areas could yield far more successful results for a permanent, thriving NFL fandom than many of the large markets the NFL drools over.

What I'd love most is to see another shutout. I don't care if we only score 7 points. If we can hold Miami to 0 points in 2 games, that would be the most satisfying thing for the rest of the season (outside of winning a Super Bowl). Hope the defense comes back with a vengeance & really hands it to them!

Ah yes, it wasn't enough to be married into a family of billionaires who own an NFL franchise, gotta also be married to a successful pro-athlete on top of it. Some people just win at life in every way. 😭

Go full spread, have Josh roll out either direction on every play, stall for time, free-style & improvise until the defensive backfield eventually loses sight of play break down, throw it to whoever is open standing alone in an empty area. Easy!

Oh how the mighty have fallen... Super Bowl winner & Super Bowl MVP to.... playing for Jets organization 🤮 It's like watching a 45 year old, former champion boxer hang on too long trying to get that last win, and just continue to get beat down by every up & comer trying to get a notch under their belt destroying a big name. I'm sure Anderson Silva or Tito Ortiz will come out of retirement to fight on some no-name promotion's main event, say they've felt better than they ever have, then get annihilated by some no-name. Then after the match, they'll get popped for PED's to add insult to injury. Flacco playing for the Jets is sealing that same fate.

Imagine being married to an NFL team owner's daughter... Like... if there's one "JACKPOT!" moment a person could have in their life, that would be near the top of my list. And if it was the daughter of the Buffalo Bills team owners? I'd cry tears of joy every night getting into bed, looking over at my wife & thinking "BILLS MAKE ME WANNA SHOUT!"

No, the Bills have "one of," not THE easiest. Titans have the easiest - http://www.tankathon.com/nfl/remaining_schedule_strength Edit: Also, that wasn't even the point of the post you replied to. The poster I responded to said the Titans will lose "at least 3 more games." They have the tie-breaker against us, and have an easier remaining schedule. Assuming they will face "at least" 3 more losses is silly.

Have you seen their remaining schedule? The Titans have to have the easiest remaining schedule in the league... Aside from an NFC team in the Rams, who are their losses coming from? I get they lost by 3 points to the Jets, but can we really rely on the Jags, Texans, or Colts to knock them off? What about the Dolphins or Saints? Maybe the Pats continue to improve & take them down, but that sucks too lol

But consistency matters. If Ed Oliver falling on Mahomes' feet trying to make a play while getting pushed is roughing the passer, that first hit on Wilson HAS to be called.

I have no idea where I stand. Putting together each team's best wins vs notable/meaningful losses, it's a weird picture. Tennessee (5-2): *Jets: Loss 27 - 24 *Chiefs: Win 27 - 3 *Bills: Win 34 - 31 (Key/Big Opponents Left - Rams, maybe Patriots) Baltimore (5-2): *Chiefs: Win 36 - 35 *Chargers: Win 34 - 6 *Bengals: Loss 41 - 17 (Key/Big Opponents Left - Browns x 2, Packers, Bengals, Rams) Buffalo (4-2): *2 Shutouts (Bad Teams) *Chiefs: Win 38 - 20 *Titans: Loss 34 - 31 (Key/Big Opponents Left - Bucs, maybe Patriots x 2) Cincinnati (5-2): *Bears: Loss 20 - 17 *Ravens: Win 41 - 17 (Key/Big Opponents Left - Browns x 2, Raiders, Chargers, Ravens, Chiefs) LA Chargers (4-2): *Chiefs: Win 30 - 24 *Raiders: Win 28 - 14 *Ravens: Loss 34 - 6 (Key/Big Opponents Left - Bengals, Chiefs, Raiders, maybe Patriots) Las Vegas (5-2): *Ravens: Win 33 - 27 *Chargers: Loss 28 - 14 *Bears: Loss 20 - 9 (Key/Big Opponents Left - Chiefs x 2, Bengals, Cowboys, Browns, Chargers) Looking at that, I guess I'd go: 1. Titans 2. Bills 4(T). Chargers 4(T). Ravens 5. Bengals 6. Raiders The Titans have an even softer schedule than us coming up, and our toughest opponent left is an NFC team for both of us. The rest of the teams beat up on each other quite a bit, even the Bengals have in-conference games against Raiders, Chiefs & Chargers, not to mention their divisional rival Ravens. Hell, the Chiefs may never get their act together & fall off as a worthy test all together. Ravens mainly have to worry about division rivals, otherwise it's just 2 x NFC contenders, and the Raiders sit at 5-2 but with a ton of questions. Funny enough, even if the Chiefs get it together, they basically have losing tie-breakers with the top of the field (and are still to play the Bengals & Raiders). Overall, looks good for the Bills provided they come out hot after the bye & stay healthy.

Bojo - the one that got away...

I'm actually impressed the Chiefs defense held the Titans to 0 points the entire 2nd half.

Man, thought the Jets were bad WITH Wilson, but man apparently they can get even worse. 54 - 13? How the Titans lost to them is looking more perplexing by the minute.