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He should. Long and Twitchy DE could end up being a steal. Overall, the draft looks to be very good. Joseph seems like the only pick who is on the outside looking in.

I think Yarborough and Murphy played themselves on the roster. How? Idk. McCloud and Williams makes the Wr question more complicated. I could see 5 Wrs or 7. This is a group I have very little feel for. I think Lacy played himself off the roster. I think they go Dotson or Joseph. For the 6th lb. I think Buffalo makes a few more trade. There are I believe 2 teams with 2 good punters. I think they flip a guy for a punter. The next 2 days will be intersting.

A cut Saturday now a 5th and 7th. Goes to show the improved interior lineman play. He was the best interior lineman on the roster a year ago. Looks like Dawkins will be the only lineman on the roster from a year ago.

The Patriots defense snuffed out kid genius. Bill is a defensive wizard. With that said, having an extremely efficient offense has helped mask their personnel liabilities. Buffalo has to earn it on the feild and win games before they get any attention.

Ryan Bates straight up for Clowney. Make it happen. Bates could start at any of the 5 positions for them.

The actual numbers were only brought up because the point was previously made that Jones showed only incremental improvement. If Jones doesnt have a better year or significantly more efficient Im good with moving on. The bottom of the roster Wrs will not be expected to produce even the numbers Zay did last year if they make the team.

I'm not a personal fan of Zay Jones. I'm a fan of the Bill's. The majority of fans are cats, they just follow the lazer pointer, or shiny new object and miss the bigger picture. I'm well aware of Williams. I watched every video I could find of him on YouTube when he was signed. I also understand that the preseason for the most part is meaningless. Zay Jones vs Duke Williams. Jones is quicker and faster. Jones made it through 2 NFL seasons fairly healthy. Jones is 2 years removed from be a 2nd Rd pick. Williams went undrafted, cut unsigned. He had a hell of a year last year but he isnt a better Wr than Jones imo. Robert Woods was very similar here. Identical numbers. Went to a good offense and boom he is actually pretty good. Wr is a funky position. It can take 3 or so years. I am all for figuring out how to get duke Williams on the roster. Do you cut Yeldon? Idk probably not. Cut down the number of Tes? Or Olineman? If Morse can make it through the season sure but that seems iffy.

No one last year would call the Bill's offense prolific. Putting up average Wr numbers on a well below average passing offense tells me he is an NFL wr. Only reading comment after comment of how Buffalo should cut Jones to keep Williams is what prompted my responses. If Jones is cut. Its a huge gamble to think Williams or McKenzie catch over 50 balls, over 600 yards and catch 7 tds. I dont see that in either guy. If they accomplished it, I think it would be viewed as a positive. My point being that is the same stat line Jones needs to improve off of. Its 1 step forward 2 steps back imo.

His 2 slants? The lob in the corner for his first Td? Yes, I like his size. I dont keep him over Brown, Beasley, Foster, Jones, Roberts. Now the decision of how many wrs? I think they go with that 5 with Te, Rb, or Oline picking up the extra spots. Probably, bring Williams back week 2 so his contract is non guaranteed.

Those were his stats every year in Buffalo. Woods still has never caught more than 6 tds. Jones is a better wr than McKenzie and Williams. He should be on the roster. I think in a better circumstance this year, with better players around he can improve. I'm not saying anything other than that. What part? The catches? or the yards? Or Tds?

I think too many fans are hyperbolic about Zay Jones. Mainly, the Carolina play, and drop down the stretch vs Miami. He got better last year. Is he AB or OBJ no, not even close. He is a NFL wr. Robert Woods was Zay Jones in Buffalo. Last year Jones actually put up not terrible numbers considering the circumstances. Hes still only 24. Why can't he play better with better peices around him?

Zay's season last year was as good as any season Woods had with the Bill's. Jones scored more TDs last year then Woods has in any season of his career.

From his rookie year to last season he doubled his catches, yards, and catch rate. He tripled his TDs and increased his yards per target by 2 yards. Why is he done improving as a wr? Because, he hasn't lit up preseason? Let's not forget what this team was for half the season. They were a dumpster fire. Having the same Qb for hopefully the whole season will help as well. Nevertheless, Williams made a great catch over a backup db and has more potential. Got it.

We will agree to disagree. I know Williams was prolific his last season. My point is it wasn't his first. He was 3 years out of college. Zay gets a bum wrap imo. Zay is the more complete player. You can line Zay up anywhere in formation you cant say the same for Williams. Of all the receivers on the team Jones still has most potential.

He was also a starter year 2 with a new Co Ordinator. Not that it's his fault, but Jones was the best Wr Buffalo had the last 2 years. Let's not demonize the guys working in the NFL and basically the only wr with a pulse the last 2 season. Before he was ready? Sure was. Does that mean hes a bust? Nope. This moment in Dukes career he was a JAG in the Canadian football league. Zay has atleast has been a JAG in the NFL. Does Zay need to step up? Yes. I have more faith in him doing it over Williams.

Still better than Duke.

Too be fair though... Zay made the team his rookie year. Actually, won a starting position on the first team to make the playoffs in 20 years for the franchise. His first two season have had some highs and lows. If Williams puts up the numbers Jones did last year, hes a steal with promise. Hes only 27 ya know? Maybe its expectations, but I think Jones still has potential. Not drawing the most attention from defenses this year imo will lend him to better matchups and more production.

0 chance Barkley plays unless Allen gets hurt. Allen is going to make that every now and again. It's also going to create 50 yard gains. To be fair it didnt hurt him or the team Friday because of the defensive penalty. Hes got the Farve mindset to him. For as much as you dont want him to make those type of plays, it's what also could make him great.

He is who he is. His anticipatory style of Qb creates a good change up to Allen. With Allen's arm strength and athleticism he can hold the ball longer than Barkley can. To me he can come in and win a few games. After a small samples size he will come around similar to Fitzmagic turn to Fitztragic. Defenders sit on routes and flood the windows he operates in. He is a top tier backup. He is good enough to help keep Allen sharp but not talented enough to be divisive in the locker room or fan base.

Seems to me this still wide open. Best offer and a team he will at least give a shot to. I think Buffalo has as good a shot as any.

This is the owners playing 3 d chess. The 18 games, 16 player restriction is stupid. However, the conversation begins from the NFLPA. How much would the extra weeks provide in revenue? Boom, you are now negotiating a 18 game schedule.

Clowney had a major impact on that defense. Imo, their is a massive front office/ coaching staff disconnect in that organization. The last 3 to 5 years has been a power struggle of sorts since their longtime GM/President, semi retired, returned, and retired. I think Clowneys contract status unfolded all during this time. From my understanding contract talks started and stopped multiple times, and now its deteriorated. Why a player can agree to a contract is largely irrelevant. Clowney hasnt been a cancer like AB. NFL players are starting to flex some negotiating muscle for the first time. The franchise tag is *****.. The tag wasnt intended for what it is used for. It was a fall safe for teams to have some leverage to negotiate long term. More often then not teams low ball the player and dont negotiate in good faith. Buffalo has a foundation. They have found a winning formula imo. What makes Buffalo a playoff contender or Superbowl contender are a few impact players. Whether its trade, Fa, or development. Clowney would be an impact player.

Nyske and a 2nd and it's a wrap

Sounds like the reports that came out when Buffalo was rumored to trade for than not trade A Brown. Clowney doesnt sign tender he isnt traded. Buffalo imo still isnt out of it. They have a top defense and could pitch Clowney puts them into contender status. Much like how Mack was credited for the turn around. Even Chi had a top 10 defense the year before.

Correct. But I love my kids more than football. Looking back at playing football from pee wee through high school and understanding that every "ding" I got was a minor concussion, was jarring for me. Getting your body used to contact, for me means something different and now darker. I never had what I thought was a concussion while playing. Now older I now know I never had a severe one. My sons will not have a concussion until they are more physically more mature and can sort of more understand the risks associated with playing organized tackle football. There are positives gained from playing football at any skill level. To me the positives dont out way the risks til they are older and they beg me to allow them to play it. I want them to beg me because they will truly need to love it to play it. If they dont there is not a point to do it.