Boatdrinks

Lack of talent (2018 Bills)often leads to penalties. Especially on the O line, where guys hold when they are getting physically overwhelmed , or false start trying to get into their pass set a split second too fast. I’d expect better line play this year, and less of those types of penalties. I often hear folks say penalties are on the coaching, but ex players ( such as Steve Tasker) will say it’s on the players. I’d tend to agree with Tasker there. Players are out on the field, not the coach.

Yep. There have been some memorable corruptions of commonly used expressions on this board in the past, and every so often they come up again, like in Coach Tuesday’s post lol... I’m kinda surprised not many seem to have gotten my reference to the “ particle sun” post someone made on the board a bunch of years back. When I saw him reference the “ self of steam” post it made me think of it.

They could have. Don’t know how easily, but there would have been cost involved. It probably came down to if they felt the value was there for such a move and where Metcalf was on their board. Beane mentioned they wanted to move up higher than they did for Ford, but the cost was too rich. So it’s always a matter of finding a trade partner, agreeing on compensation and paying a price they are comfortable with.

Hahahah lol... people act like D.K. is the particle sun or something !

Pretty good synopsis here.

Oakland media and Raider Nation seemed to view Feliciano as a starting caliber G buried on a deep OL. I think he’s a legitimate candidate for the RG spot. I view Long as probably the backup C/G. Either way, it’s a bestter cast to choose from than last year’s unit.

While choosing ones own situation might help a UDFA latch on, Schefters tweet also shows something else. The “ middle class” is being squeezed out of the NFL in favor of cheaper players. ( insert joke about income inequality here lol) . This has as much to do with that stat as anything. After their stars and starters, teams will choose a cheaper option if ability is seen as close. As this plays out, fans are more interested in the UDFAs brought in than ever before , as these guys have a shot.

Fwiw I believe the Pats* moved down after Bills selections in round 3. As stated by Beane, they had another player ranked closely that they considered before the Singletary pick. We don’t know who that was.The Bills valued other players at that spot too. The team was deficient at scoring TDs last year and are old at RB. I’m sure this all played into their decision. I don’t think they’re just throwing darts at a board in that war room. There are always options in every round. We will see if their vision for the team works out.

Lol.. they don’t score the touchdowns or get all the accolades, but we know the line is where the real football is played. If the OL is deficient, nothing works.

That’s always the unknown: who is where on the Bills board ? I acknowledged that RB wasn’t a need like DE/ Edge was in my post, so I agree this was not a need pick. Note : just heard interview w Beane where he said Singletary was the top RB on their board. He also said there was a closely ranked player available at another position that they considered at 3, but went with Singletary. Didn’t say what that position was though, but there you go.

It’s the old maxim about drafting for need. Singletary was probably RB1 on some boards, though not necessarily Buffalo’s.Wasnt a need like DE/ Edge . Seems like they followed the near mythical BPA strategy.

Of course he has pull within his circle, I don’t doubt that one bit. It old be naive to think he doesn’t. Absolutely it’s how the world works, and I have no problem with that. However, if the ability wasn’t there, CK doesn’t get a look. Just part of the equation.

I’m going to say they probably would. Bills lack pass rushers, and Winovich flat gets after it. Liked him better than Gary. Hate that the Pats * got him, he definitely fits their profile. Drafting is all about projection, interesting to see how it all plays out. He will likely get a lot of touches in preseason, so that will elevate him to legendary status with part of the fan base.

Yep, second round grade by Mayock that year if no baggage. Guy has some ability, and QBs are often over-drafted now so even late first might have been possible in that case. Favor or not ( we don’t know) , he’s not getting a look anywhere if the ability isn’t there.

CAR was thinking the same thing as Bills... run on OT starting. A bit of luck for the Bills that Panthers drafted little and not Ford. Saw a couple sites grading day two that said CAR should have taken Ford in that spot. Many had first round grade on the guy.

Great point. It seems like Beane just stuck to the Bills board and took the mythical “ BPA” that so many on this board are always clamoring for at draft time. Crazy that a 3rd round RB taken by a team with a lot of RBs can generate a gazillion page thread, but it has.

While the QB is going into his second year, the similarities to that PHL team end there. I’d guess a minimum of one more season before the Bills are at anything near a win now at all costs mode. Find out if the QB is any good first. This season should tell a lot.

I would say possibly. Depends on the circumstance .

It’s a reasonable assumption. Not sure who is going to “ meddle” on the Bills, but if the on field performance is middling, I’d imagine changes would be considered. If they go 9-7 consecutive years or say 8-8 then 10-6 but miss the playoffs , ownership may still feel the team is on the right path. Thus far, we have one playoff berth with an average QB, then a rookie QB and a predictable step back. A bad cap situation led to a weak roster , especially on offense. I’d expect some improvement this year, but the team is taking shape in the vision of Beane and McD. I think they will definitely get through the 2020 season before the possibility of major change would arise.

Yet Beane has stated that they simply stuck with their board and took their top rated player in each spot; he didn’t want to reach. So while they need a certain type of WR to finish this offensive roster, that player wasn’t available to them when they picked . Just the way the board fell. I was hoping for a WR after round two, but just wasn’t the right draft class I guess.

I would consider that a success

Okay, that was 2008. Roster is quite different now.

Improve pass rush ( trade or FA) , WR ( trade)

Can’t care too much about what guys are getting paid ( maybe at contract time) or what was given up. This FO is building something in their vision. As long as the overall cap situation is good, the compensation part doesn’t matter much. McDs scheme is a rotation , and that won’t change. They knew KE retiring left a huge hole and they got the perfect player to fill it. That was never going to be Phillips

I think draft grades make more sense than mocks. Of course, these early grades are not indicative of player success or failure. Way too soon for that. Rather, they are grading on whether the team got value for where the selection was made, if the pick made sense / was a fit for team needs and scheme. If you are looking at grades as predicting how good the players will be , that is impossible and a silly notion.