Boatdrinks

Have you ever watched say, a Patriots* game ? A player such as Stephon Gilmore gets away with things that drew flags when he wore a Bills helmet. Their former LT got a lot of holding penalties when he switched to a Giants uniform. To say that NFL officials don’t have a strong bias is crazy. They assume winning teams ( largely determined by a team’s QB, not the DBs or even OL most times) players simply made a good play rather than “ broke the rules”. Fouls are committed on almost every play in the MFL; they are mostly what you would consider “ judgment calls”. That’s where the bias comes is. A player on a losing team like the Bills grabs some jersey or holds a WRs arm late in a close game and the flag comes out. A NE player does the same or worse and it is ignored, as the player must have made a great play. It’s maddeningly obvious.

Yep, that pretty much sums it up. The Ralph days are long gone, this wasn’t about money or T Pegs being unwilling to pay Brown. AB is a classic Diva receiva. The Bills don’t have a proven QB, haven’t in some time and consequently haven’t won in quite awhile. That an Antonio brown or another player of his ilk wouldn’t want to come to Buffalo should surprise no one. He already thought himself too good for one of the winningest NFL franchises ever. In the end, who cares ?

Well, Gronkowski wasn’t in the NFL for Giants vs Pats* part one. Anyway, Gronkowski is HOF, but his lack of durability/ longevity is a DQ for “ goat” status to me. Other opinions will vary.

Fair enough. I don’t see it that way, and I’d say don’t overthink it. NFL QB play as a whole is weak. Good QBs can get it done vs NE. Mahomes , for example was barely slowed by the Pats*. Most NFL games are close, and even the current edition of Brady usually makes a few more plays than the QB on the other side of the field. He has very few “ off” days in a season compared with the field. That’s the reason for the wins. When he can no longer do this, it stops.

Cry is more like it.

Not sure of your section , but I was in 136. Everyone ( seemingly) cheered and high- fives all around.

I concur with this theory. I’m not certain yet if the Bills need one or not, but I do know this; I wouldn’t trade up for any QB in this draft.

Let’s all hope this is incorrect.

The Rams lack of playmaking in the SB was tied to just one thing; Goff puking on his shoes. Or perhaps he just showed his true colors as a QB down the stretch run of the season. The Pats didn’t do anything noteworthy. They didn’t have to once the Bears and Eagles put down the blueprint and exposed Goff. The Pats begin and end with Brady, though. He didn’t do much in that dog of a SB game, but he only had to be marginally better than Goff that day. Not too difficult. Brady missed 2008 season. Seems like a lifetime ago, but I’ll never forget watching Pollard take his knee out on the scoreboard at the Ralph.

Not weak enough. It will be over when ( and only when) TB retires or his play is sub par. I don’t believe he will play as a Favre-like shell of himself. That would taint his legacy and his ego won’t allow it. A running game will mean very little at that time. It will all come down to the QB. While the nightmare may seem never ending, defining it as such is pure hyperbole. The epic length run is really just tied to one player’s highly improbable longevity. Barring a Luck- type scenario it will end. For football fans however, it has seemed to be a lifetime in hell , or perhaps purgatory. I truly cannot wait for it to reach its approaching nadir.

Lifted directly from thebiglead.com. Yes , I see that you put it in quotes. Anyway, I think the point was not about stats, but that the team wins games without the player. Their winning begins and ends with the QB, and probably won’t change until they get weaker at that position. Hopefully that occurs and they don’t have a Colts like transition to an Andrew Luck.

The Lions were a terrible team, but that doesn’t detract from his greatness as a player. He was great, and durable.

Barry Sanders retired on top with gas in the tank, and missed only 7 starts due to injury / other in his entire career.

Exactly. Great move if it means not drafting a CB. Build the offense and maybe throw in a good DT.

Not surprisingly the choad’s agent states he “ wouldn’t be surprised “ if he has a change of heart and returns to the team/game. And so it begins ....

Fair point. Though it’s become cliche, don’t they say the best ability is availability ? Gronkowski dominated for sure, but his durability takes him out of the all time best conversation imo. Is he HOF great ? Absolutely. But so was Terrell Davis.

Not coincidentally with Brady as his QB for the vast majority of the games. I figured the HS player part was overstated, but they’ve won with offense since about 2004 or so. Not knocking BB, but that run doesn’t happen without Brady.

Oh, I agree on Father Time , and it sure appeared that the whispers about a Brady injury might have some merit. I strongly believe he I’ll retire before he will play as a shell of himself that is clearly in major decline. He will not allow anyone to see him playing that way as a final image of him. Just my opinion.

Of course they could, but as always it requires a willing partner to trade with.

No, not at all. Of course there will be a when, ( all the avocado toast in the world won’t stop that ) but you can be sure of one thing ; when the “ when” arrives, Brady’s ego will not allow him to continue and tarnish his own legacy. He will know when to say “ when”, and retire at that time. Hope it’s sooner than later. I couldn’t disagree more. Brady will win with competent players as long as he hasn’t slipped and it’s McDaniels offense. B.B. won’t matter that much and he certainly wouldn’t win with high school players.

Okay, now it’s “ as a Bill” instead of just on a different team. Point taken on Brady, but as it’s been pointed out Gonzalez didn’t have a Brady throwing to him. Sure, he’s not “ Gronk” on one of the most QB needy teams of his era. Fine.

Yep, and it’s the QB far more than B.B. that makes the difference imo.

They can manipulate their cap to some degree I’m sure. Bottom line is, until the Pats* have demonstrated weakness at the QB position, nothing else will make a huge difference.

Embarrassing effort for the Bulls all the way around. Pretty meek exit after a great season.

I have to believe they will address it in the draft and 2nd wave of free agency as per usual.