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We can, but it sure makes for compelling conversation around the bar. Talking about them in this way is part of the thrill of what we witnessed. If one can’t enjoy it, well I concur. It’s their choice, but a curmudgeonly one to be sure.

So the revelation that Tiger banged a few chicks in his spare time changed it all..hmmm. Ruined the dream for you ?

Yep, it seemed like he might be back that year. Won 11 times iirc but no majors.

Agreed. There certainly was a time not that long ago, anyway. I remember his last major win at the US open, the talk radio opinion ( and my own ) was simply when and by how many would he overtake Jack. It seemed inevitable at the time , then disaster struck. As time went on the forgone conclusion flipped the wrong way. Last tour season brought the possibility back. Amazing story of redemption and a return to the winners circle that the golf world was hoping for ! While Nicklaus’s record is still off in the distance, it’s no longer unattainable. I hope we can see it happen, as we surely won’t see anyone come close again in our lifetime. Bravo, Tiger !

While your feelings are clear, a businessman would think quite differently. So would those who own businesses near a potential new facility. You want to drive to the stadium, bring what you need with you, watch the game and leave. The stadium could be in a field out in cattaruagus county and it would be ok by you. My guess is you aren’t the target customer that the Bills ( a business looking to increase revenues) would have in mind if they were to build a new stadium.

While this would seem practical, it has some downsides. The Orchard Park location is far flung for many out of towners anttending the games, and even those in the heavily populated northtowns. There are few local businesses in the area to pick up extra customers on gamedays. Pretty much an economic wasteland in the general area around NEF. The stadium location has never been very good, and a new stadium there doesn’t change anything in that department.

Personally, I don’t give a s**t who anyone marries or wants to marry. However ,If a Chick Fil A wants to donate to a religious organization or some other nonsense, who cares ? This is a bad look for Buffalo imo. Do they serve good food for a decent price and have clean stores ? ( in this case the answer is yes) Great, sign them up ! As far as I know, Chick Fil A will hire and serve anybody so what’s the problem? Embarrassing for the city and Delaware North.

The Fitz “ contract myth” has become something of a legend of its own. Reality is, Fitzpatrick was playing on a backup contract when he clearly had become the team’s choice as starter. The contract lifted him from backup money all the way to the 16th highest paid starting QB in the NFL. That’s right, exactly average - right where he belonged. There was nothing wrong with this, and drafting EJ Manuel was actually a far greater error at QB by the Bills FO. Sure, Fitzy showed his true colors, but there was nothing wrong with paying him like the middle of the pack starter he was at the time.

14, 15, 16 is no mans land. 9 is fine.

Sledgehammer is Peter Gabriel, not a Genesis song.

The Patriots* winning isn’t built around where they draft CBs or OL/ DL. Their “ model” is a simple one, alright...Tom Brady. Anything else they do tends to work because of that , not the other way around. Conversely, the Bills have lost to them for 10 + years because they’ve lacked a good/ great player at that all important QB position. Sure, a D with a few HOFers and a wicked pass rush ( such as the Ravens) may have allowed them to win with just solid QB play. The current rules don’t facilitate beating NE with CB play.

The Bills lost SuperBowls because they were partying too much. Never mind that the Raiders were legendary partiers in the 70’s and 80’s but had little trouble winning.

While I would argue that the Bills were not close to the second best defense in the NFL last year ( yardage based rankings notwithstanding) the idea that McD would completely change his 4-3 defense to suit one drafted player is preposterous indeed.

I believe this year’s draft hats had a theme of incorporating elements of each citys flag into the hat. So you will probably see things that have no apparent connection to the team’s official logo, such as the lightning bolts on the Bills hat. From what I understand, the designer of the City’s flag included 13 lightning bolts in the design. These represented that New York State was one of the 13 original Colonies. They also represented the “ energy and spirit of Buffalo” and that Buffalo was one of the first cities on the electrical grid. I admit, once I became aware of this I warmed up to the design of the Bills hat. Previous years have been worse, imo.

Whether it’s mechancis or his diminutive size , I am fully expecting he’ll be a bust. He’s no Baker Mayfield, though the football talking heads on TV are trying to sell him as such. Only two or three short ,small QBs have had success over the last 3 or four decades. Murray will be on the scrap heap rather than join the outliers.

Sometimes with family, you need to be the better person and take the high road. Regardless of family dynamics/ complications , some people really just are A-holes in real life. Even sports stars that many people think highly of. We often only see their “ public” persona, and that’s the point.

Lol “ the angle of the dangle is directly perpendicular to the beat of the meat “ - Beavis

3-3 in AFCE 5-5 remaining games 8-8

This is going to kill their comp pick formula! What are these guys thinking!

The Bills are a business. Their goal as a business is to make more profit. The current stadium limits this ability. Aside from taking politically virtuous yet wholly unrealistic stances , there isn’t much point to your takes in this thread. You don’t want a new stadium. Fine. That doesn’t mean the Bills don’t want it or that one won’t get built.

That is a strange interpretation to say the least. There is/ was nothing childish about my choice of modifier. There is no argument. Merely the fact that the Bills average ticket price is among the league’s lowest. Hence the reference. Please explain what “ facts” you are referring to that don’t support this. The modifier is not an exaggeration, but a description of the Bills ticket cost comparative to the rest of the league. Refusing to consider the business aspects of the stadium discussion while demanding the Bills to operate in some sort of business vacuum that isn’t typical of other teams in the league is nonsense. One must acknowledge that while typical funding sources of stadia around the league is far from ideal, that is the world the Bills are playing in.

Right. You would pretty much tear everything down but the sunken portion. I don’t know if the cost would still be less, but I would venture that it might not be.

Ha ha ha. Lime, you are a quick wit . Wonder what your sage educator taught you about childish insults? While you apparently don’t care for my choice of modifier, the fact remains the Bills ticket pricing is bottom of the league. Call that bargain basement, low rent, whatever. Not sure how you gleaned your curious assumption about my status from my post , but my point is a valid one from a business perspective. It also contributes more to the conversation (er,debate?) than your platitudes about how things ought to work if we lived in a perfect world. We all know that we don’t.

Tickets are at welfare levels right now, and some current ticket holders are bound to be upset . Yes, the market can afford higher prices. A few slapdash renovations won’t give the Pegulas much pricing power to charge closer to average prices, though.

Of course it’s about profit. The NFL is a business, not a game. There is no distraction or confusion involved as far as fans go, though. It is about value or perceived value. The most important things in a potential new stadium are fewer seats ( limited supply creates demand) and climate control. That’s where the value is , real or perceived. Larger concourses or better bathrooms doesn’t mean much when the goal is to get the ticket prices up to around the league average instead of the basement. There is money that is staying home rather than go to a game in miserable weather. That’s the untapped market the Bills would like to tap into. They can’t really charge too much more than they currently are for the same seat in a modestly improved facility. There is really no mystery to this. They want to sell a better, more upscale and more expensive gameday experience.