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To be fair, aside from Thurman Thomas, none of them had a Qb in the same ballpark to play with as Josh Allen. They’d face a lot more stacked boxes than Cook.

By the end of his 7th year, Reid had already won a Super Bowl, and the year before was 1 play away from beating the Pats to make the Super Bowl. By comparison, McDermott has made 1 conference championship, in which the team was down 38-15 in the fourth quarter. Through his first 7 years, Reid had 2 seasons of elite QB play, while McDermott has had 4.

I don’t think we’d get any more than a 6th for Clapp, as a depth (6-7) offensive lineman on most teams. We already have plenty of mid-late draft picks(with expected comp picks we have 3 4ths, 5th and 2 6ths), so trading our key depth for another doesn’t make sense. Clapp has played center and guard, and if any of our 3 starting interior lineman get hurt, he probably slots in the lineup (either at guard, or shifting McGovern to guard and taking over at center). We got lucky last year with a healthy oline, but shouldn’t count on it again this year. Quality Oline depth is more important than an 11th draft pick with little trade up value.

2nd worst season, ideally the Vikings are worse.

Except 0 LTs in the NFL make 30 million, the most expensive is at 25, and only 5 make 20 or more. There’s 1 DE that makes 30 or more, and only 12 that break 20. Wr is closer, 3 make 30+, and 18 make 20 or more. No team is spending anywhere near that kinda money on 4 players.

Could have been a difference in return, maybe we wouldn’t have gotten much at all if we traded beforehand, and Beane preferred getting a second.

Isn’t that just how the draft works already? Why even do Comp picks at that point.

Yeah, but just to sell it probably.

It depends on a number of things, including play time and pro bowl selections. If the player played less than 75% of the offensive snaps for 2 seasons and less than 50% for the 3 seasons, it’d be the average of the 3rd-25th highest paid RBs over the last 5 years. If they played 75% or more snaps, it’s the average of the 3rd-20th paid RBs over the last 5 years. I didn’t do the actual average of these numbers, If they made a pro bowl, they’d get the transition tag equivalent (just under 10 mil). If they were selected for multiple pro bowls, it’s the equivalent of the franchise tag (~12 mil for Rbs). These pro bowls only count if they were the original selection, not alternates. Najee Harris went to one probowl, but was not the original selection, so he qualifies only for the playing time. His salary on the 5th year option would have been 6.79 million, which would have made him the 12th highest paid RB.

Samuel was paid about twice as much as Harty was, and at a longer contract. He wasn’t a Harty replacement, he was brought in to help mitigate the loss of Davis and Diggs. Beane likely already was planning on moving Diggs at the time of the signing. Ultimately, blaming Diggs for the state of the Wr room is silly. Beane is the one in control of the situation. He brought in Diggs, while knowing there were some character concerns/issues with teammates in Minnesota. He built the recieving room so blaming it on one player is ridiculous when it was him who brought the player in. It’s one thing if there was an unexpected suspension of your #1, then you could blame it on the player, but Beane is the one that holds the cards here. If Diggs was an issue, he should have addressed the issue more by bringing in replacements.

I keep seeing people comparing fans’ reactions to the Coleman pick to the wrong Josh outcry when Allen was drafted. This seems utterly ridiculous to me, as their situations are pretty far apart. Josh Allen was as boom-or-bust of a prospect as they come. He was most likely to either be a star or a complete waste of a pick, and there was unlikely to be any Inbetween. Whereas Coleman, his ceiling according to most is a 2, and his floor is a depth receiver, a red zone threat with good hands, but not enough impact in the middle of the field to be a starter. Really am not seeing the comparison at all.

Doubt the plan would’ve involved both Coleman and Samuel if Diggs was still around.

Good, we needed some IOL depth.

Another good example (albeit a bit different) is DK Metcalf. He was very highly touted by draft pundits and some had him going in the top 10. He fell to the bottom of the second where he was taken by the Seahawks. I’m a re-draft he’d likely go top 10, if not too 15.

Starting to get into the potential trade up zone here.

I think the idea is that we didn’t trade down again because NE wanted him.

Good, McDermott can maximize value with Dbs taken in the 5th-7th. I’d much rather bring in another receiver or some DL help early.

6 NFL tight ends outproduced Dawson and Dalton Combined last year. Sure, Kincaid could take another step next year and this could become true, but right now, it is definitely not the case. Baltimore also has Flowers and Likely, which defeats the argument for Dawson Knox being the best #2 in the league.

It’s definitely still possible. Beane could have viewed the trade as moving down 1 pick, and only losing the 5th year option, in exchange for later moving from 95 to ~85.

Doubt it. Beane likes to trade up in the 2nd-4th. I’d guess we end up with 2 5ths.

Your grading seems a little arbitrary to me. For example, Mike Williams has ++ despite Juju Smirth Schuster having more catches and touchdowns in the same career length. Cortland Sutton is also on pace to pass Mike Williams. Michael Thomas only a +? Despite being a top 3 receiver the first 4 years of his career.

Remember when Robert Foster had over 500 yards the final 8 games of the season, and everybody here was saying he was gonna be a 1/2? Kinda feels like that with all the hype Shakir is getting.

I doubt it. Milano is a difference maker sure and Bernard certainly would have been a help. Tre however, had been a non-factor since his ACL tear. The defense may have played better with them in the lineup, but without them they were allowing 7.7 yards per play against the chiefs. I don’t think adding them in does enough to stop the chiefs.

To be fair, having more articles about how broken Diggs’ relationship with the team was would not help his trade value.

Not sad at all about safety, there’s better positions to spend firsts on, there’s usually only one or two safeties that go in the first.