Kirby Jackson

100% agree on the infusion of talent needed on offense. Vance McDonald would have been a great addition!!

No what ifs, he was 9-7 in 2005 after taking over a team that was 4-12 the previous year. Those are facts. The Dolphins tried to sign Drew Brees but he failed the physical. This isn’t some far-fethched “if my aunt was an uncle” scenario. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1448986-miami-dolphins-nick-saban-says-team-offered-drew-brees-contract-in-2006.amp.html

My point is that it doesn’t matter. You shouldn’t settle on any of those guys. Next year, try someone else new. You can throw a rock and find the production that those guys give you. Keep cycling through until you find guys that can actually play. I agree with this. I’m not saying that he is worthless. He’s a JAG. I’m never going to be upset when a JAG moves on. It is refreshing when a franchise doesn’t settle. O’Leary is an average 3rd TE. That’s not a hard role to replace.

Has this team suffered at all by trying Croom instead? How many more games would they have won with O’Leary’s 7 catches? The back of roster JAGs are 100% replaceable. As soon as you realize a guy is no better or worse than street FAs, it’s time to try someone new. Whether it works or not you are no worse off. You should NEVER pay for a guy that can be replaced by an UDFA. That’s a poor business decision and typical of the Dolphins. I hope that he hauls in another 1/2 catch a game for them next year for $1.5M.

A guy actually lost to the girl last year. He didn’t do so well on Twitter after.

He has 7 more catches and 77 more yards than I do this season. At best, he’s a 3rd TE on a bad team. There’s no reason to ever protect a guy like that. Take a shot on a different fringe guy and hope that he’s better.

I guess the point is that neither of them are NFL Tight Ends. You should keep swinging but don’t ever settle for the 3rd TE on one of the worst teams in the league. Hold yourself to a higher standard. Do better.

We disagree. I have it at 20. We will never know but certainly we can’t say something will “definitely” happen. They will never play. We all have our opinions by no one is right or wrong.

So many people that haven’t even seen them play until today!! It’s tough to have a strong opinion without ever actually watching. Whatever though, I think that the points have been made in both sides. I think it’s 20, some that I respect (like Thurm) think it’s 40. We will never know. All that we know is a professional thinks it’s 28.5.

So Alabama beat, arguably, the 2nd best team in the country with their backup QB and we are trashing them?

He was 9-7 with trash talent in year one. If he picked Brees instead of Culpepper he’d still be coaching.

He has 7 catches for 77 yards on the season. We haven’t exactly been punished by the decision. I won’t lose a wink of sleep letting a bad player go for a different bad player. I give them credit for trying to upgrade. They should keep trying this offseason.

It’s the weirdest thing. You’d think by dumb luck you’d fall into a guy that became good. The odds of SOMEONE being good have to take over at some point. That’s kind of why people are debating the merits of O’Leary vs. Thomas. The answer is none of the above. We have such a low bar. I’m hoping that TE is addressed this offseason. Tyler Eiffert is NEVER healthy but is a good “buy low” candidate imo. It’s worth a shot.

Naw, he’s over at Ryan Neufeld’s.

He’s watching games at Derek Fine’s house with Tim Euhus and Dorin Dickerson.

I’d be happy to tell him how average he was. The same goes for Riemersma. The last “good” Bills TE was Ernie Warlick and he hasn’t played for the Bills in over 50 years!!

I can’t believe how people have positive things to say about any of these TEs. They ALL stink. Clay was fine before all of the injuries but other than that we’ve never had decent TE play (forget about good). O’Leary, Thomas, Croom, Lee, Lee Smith, Chandler, etc... are all bums.

That’s even worse!! We steal the 76ers thing, change a word and pretend we own it?!? C’mon!!

Meh, none of them are any good. I don’t fault the Bills for trying something else. TE is forever a need on this team. I’m glad that they don’t settle on bottom of the league production as acceptable.

...and shut it down and suspend the OP forever

I thought McDermott started that?!?

This was an Insider article. I’m not going to post it but here’s the lists for discussion: Top 10 1. Saints Passing Game 2. Bears Coverage Unit 3. Chargers Coverage Unit 4. Rams Run Blocking 5. Rams Passing Game 6. Eagles Pass Rush 7. Steelers Pass Blocking 8. Saints Pass Blocking 9. Rams Pass Rush 10. Broncos Coverage Unit Bottom 10 10. Colts Coverage Unit 9. Lions Pass Rush 8. Cardinals Passing Game 7. Dolphins Pass Blocking 6. Bucs Coverage Unit 5. Jets Passing Game 4. Lions Coverage Unit 3. Cardinals Pass Blocking 2. Bills Passing Game 1. Raiders Pass Rush

Ed Oliver declares as well (not playing in the bowl game).

Agree on Thurm, he’s brought WAY more substance than most others.

Jimmy Spags