Kirby Jackson

My brother has been saying the same thing. Hope that you guys are right. While I didn’t like the contract, he has had a knack for making big plays.

That one has been unfortunate. I had no issue paying him and would do it again. It may not work but we’ve seen him play at an elite level. Hopefully we see it again.

Shakir is fine at that contract. Benford earned his money even if he’s having a rough year. Paying Rousseau was a mistake and paying Bernard was a big mistake.

This poll feels like the rare time that there’s a “right” answer. It’s Beane. The roster isn’t good enough. If we are looking at “why did they lose ____ game” you can pick someone else. If we are looking at, “why is the Bills season going this way” it is Beane. There isn’t enough talent.

I think so. They could win in the playoffs too. I just don’t think that they can win 4 in a row. They’re way too flawed and inconsistent.

Well said by both of you. That’s kind of the issue. It isn’t that these guys aren’t decent to even good NFL players. You just can’t spend that high on the middle of your roster. The Bills lack stars so they spent on the middle. They would have been better off letting some of the middle of the roster walk and keeping flexibility to add to the top.

They have an easy out after 2027 too. I just don’t see a lot of value in $20M+ 8 sack guys. I’d rather have a $5M 6 sack guy.

My post magically disappeared. Let’s try this again. It’s a bad idea to pay role players as if they are high end starters. The Bills did it with Rousseau and Bernard. They did it with Knox before that. Those are the guys that you let walk and find role players much cheaper.

Just an NHL team and an NFL team come with infinitely different external pressures. If you were to tally how many times in a year the word Sabres is mentioned on national TV vs. Bills, the delta will be well into the thousands. Terry can screw up the Sabres and no one notices. The entire world sees and talks on the Bills regression. He can’t hide in plain sight with this. There is no denying that he has done a bad job with the Sabres. That’s like saying though that his $200k house is in rough shape. The focus will always be on the $1M home. When the $1M home in the nicest neighborhood starts to fall apart, people notice.

The Bills are one of the most important things in my life. It’s a part of my DNA like it is for many of you. Last night, I found myself nervous and angry all at the same time. It wasn’t fun and I’m not sure I would have felt amazing if they pulled it out at the end. It’s been draining. I am okay with losses when they look like the best version of the Bills. Losses happen. My struggle is that they haven’t looked like the Bills outside of KC, Carolina, 2nd half vs. Tampa and 1st half of the Jets game. Their record is better than they’ve been. I just want them to look like they should and let the chips fall where they may.

We won’t see it publicly. We are seeing his frustration at a level that we haven’t. If Terry asks, and Josh tells him, it’s over.

I have been using the LeBron example in other threads on regime change. That’s kind of where we are. No one thinks that Pelinka or Redick has more power than LeBron. Maybe with LeBron nearing the end his voice lessens but you get the point. There are a handful, or slightly more, of players in sports that have ultimate say. Lamar is in a pretty similar situation to Josh. He can execute Harbaugh. Aaron Judge and Ohtani have similar power. Jokic and Giannis come to mind along with maybe McDavid. I’m sure there are others but it’s interesting.

Yep, the frustration is mounting and has been all year. He won’t say anything publicly because he’s not like that. Josh has functionally equal power to Pegula in this sense. He can pull the plug on this regime in 1 phone call. I don’t know if he will but he certainly can.

As soon as Josh says, “enough is enough” it all changes.

If the Bills fall short there will be LOTS of talk of, “is this the end?” It’s already heating up. I work from home mostly now and have a TV in my office. I’ve been watching a lot of the talking heads over the last 2 months. The chatter is there. I don’t have the heart or energy to watch today but it’s coming. I agree about the comfort but the Bills are his baby (and his family’s). I don’t think we can take much from how’s he’s handled the Sabres. There is no pressure for that. The Bills have an infinitely bigger microscope AND the MVP of the league. If you had a $20K car and a $100K car would you handle them the same? This is an even more extreme example.

For all of the people saying that, “there’s no chance that these guys get fired,” I wouldn’t be so sure about that. How he’s handled the Sabres isn’t relevant in this discussion. The Bills and Sabres aren’t equal. The Sabres were his first love that he bought for under $190M. Their value has increased substantially since then. Hockey is still a niche sport that regional. For context, the Bills are worth 5x of the Sabres and $5.7B more than he paid for the Sabres. The external pressure to owning a football team is exponentially greater. If Adams remains the GM, no one says anything. It barely gets talked about on WGR. If the Bills fail, the whole country/world is paying attention. The Bills are a much bigger priority for him.

Yeah, I don’t think McDermott is the worst coach. He’s average and the roster sucks. It’s tough to “coach them up.” For me, it’s always been as much about a new voice because I didn’t see much downside. This year has been worse than I thought possible with that schedule. I thought that in a horrible year 12-5 and a division title was the floor. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Glad you could make it!! I’ve been saving you a seat (since January of 2022).

A change is needed and has been needed. The people resistant to change will point to what they’ve accomplished in their time here. That’s fine. I think though, we are at a point where we can all agree that they’re trending in the wrong direction. This team is worse now than they were 5 years ago. The bad drafts, contracts, and scheme are catching up. Does anyone feel like running it back next year will yield better results?? If so, based on what?? Please don’t say injuries either. Every team has them and the Bills have largely played with their best players outside of Oliver (and recently Kincaid). They aren’t this inconsistent, and often overwhelmed, because a few guys are out. What logical signs are you seeing to say, it’ll be better next year?

Can’t finish

Lock in!!

OL is getting whooped and Brady is over his head. This has been a disaster. A fluke turnover would be ideal. Let’s steal one

Smartest guys in the room

No words for that call

In big trouble…need a turnover