Kirby Jackson

He’s been roughly 1k guy with 7+ TDs while playing “behind” Chase. Higgins to me is a top 20 WR. The Bills deal Torrence and a pick. I’m not sure if he’s the perfect fit but it just feels like such a natural match from a trade standpoint. They can’t pay another OL. Torrence is going to get $20M+ AAV. The Bengals desperately need help there. The Bills then keep McGovern & Edwards. Anderson plays RG. He feels like the guy to me too. The value would seem to match. He’s like a bigger, rich man’s Shakir kind of IMO. They’d need another guy with some suddenness off the los imo.

I think that the Bills sign a guy in FA but try to acquire a number 1 via trade. That could be a trade up in the draft for Tyson or Tate. It could be a trade for a veteran like Higgins or Jefferson or MHJ or BTJ or Waddle. They aren’t going to try to sell everyone on this everyone eats nonsense any longer. Those that couldn’t see through the ridiculousness of it in August do in November. They’ll get a guy at the top of the depth chart, a FA AND another draft pick IMO. The WR room will look something like this IMO: - Higgins (trade) - Pierce (FA) - Shakir - Palmer - Gabe - Shavers - Brazzell (3rd round)

The Bills have a habit of paying role players. That’s not a great strategy for the most part. You should pay stars, some core pieces and then have young players. The Bills have paid guys like Bernard, Knox, Epenesa, Rousseau, Samuel, Bass, etc… It’s not an issue to pay guys with all-pro upside even if it doesn’t work out. You can pay guys like: Oliver, Cook, Benford and Brown. When you start using cap space for a part-time TE, a number 4 WR, “solid” DEs, you put yourself in a tough spot. Those are the cap dollars that get you in trouble. Oliver getting hurt sucks, but when healthy he’s very good. Paying Cook was an easy decision regardless of how hard they wanted it to be.

Sadly, it’s a thread from last week 🤣🤣

The question is who is he getting it from? Eric Turner is Cover 1.

The Bills aren’t as airtight as people think. There are so many people that get this information that it doesn’t take long for the game of telephone to get it out there. I suspect that Cover 1’s info is pretty close to the team. They wouldn’t be reporting distant info. My guess (total guess) is someone in scouting. They must have a lot of connections within there.

This is a fantastic post. A huge reason for my disdain of the Keon pick is this. Why are we so concerned with finding a guy that is good when covered?!? How about we find a guy that avoids getting covered?!? The best WR years in Bills history belong to Diggs. He was/is elite as a route runner. Give me guys that get open over guys that make 50/50 balls 58/42 balls.

If he can do that, he can surely lead this Bills team to a few straight Super Bowls.

Fair. He was the one that I struggled with a little here too. You’re a little higher on him that me but he has a future and another contract after this one (assuming health). I didn’t really mean swing tackle as an insult. I meant it more in a Dan Skipper type of way where he can play, a good amount, and not hurt you.

It shows how they really feel about him as a player. They were like, “we are better off with Moore and Coddrington dressed.” Keon currently sits behind: Shavers, Palmer, Shakir, Moore, Davis, Samuel, Hardman and Coddrington” for a jersey.

Grable looks like a swing tackle. Solomon is a ST guy back of the roster DE. Davis stinks (although he’s done a surprisingly nice job returning kicks). He’s not a NFL player. Carter stinks and is hurt. Coleman stinks and doesn’t commit. Bishop looks like a good starting S. He could be a Pro Bowl guy. To recap they drafted: - A WR with the first pick of the 2nd round that can’t get a jersey on game day after 22 games. - A good and emerging starting S - A DT that’s hurt but couldn’t get a jersey when healthy - A 3rd string RB who is worse at RB than the PS RB - A backup IOL - A LB who is on a PS I think - A special teamer and depth DE - A swing OT - A CB who is on a PS I think - A PS OL that will never play. He’s only here because he was free. I see: 1 good starter (Bishop), 4 career backups (Coleman, Grable, SVPG, Solomon), 2 fringe NFL players (Davis, Carter), and 3 guys that may never play another down (Ulofoshio, Hardy, Clayton). That’s a bad, bad draft. Drafts like this are why the Bills lack high end talent. Hopefully Bishop becomes a Pro Bowler.

This is especially bad when you consider the prime assets invested into the defense. It’s been lots of early picks and most of their cap dollars. It validates the thought that you should build up Josh’s weapons before his defense. You’re 7-3 with them being bad. The delta from the guys that you have to replacement level is small. Build from Josh out. Stop worrying about everything else until he has the weapons & protection that he needs. If you’re ever going to win it’s because of him. That’s all that matters. Go get him better pass catchers and it won’t matter that his defense is bad. Stop investing there until the offense is set.

Wait, Gruden knows what a sideline sheet is?!? What an incredible watch. I think he would make an excellent HC candidate should the Bills choose to move on from McDermott. If not, I saw a video of Marty Morhinweg explaining why they don’t allow the hip drop tackle!! How are guys like this still available?!?

If you were wondering like I was (not including this one yet): https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/potw_career.htm Matt Prater 🫡

He’s in his 8th year. This is the 17th time that he has been named the AFC’s OPOW. 🤣🤣

Lol, let’s tag all of the people from earlier in the thread that will believe it when they see it.

I think that this is less about discipline and more about Keon being bad. The Bills have been a better when he’s been off the field. I don’t doubt the maturity/effort issues. If he was coming off an 80 catch 1100 yard rookie season, he wouldn’t have ever seen a suspension. I think that he now has 3 including last year?

Looks like we are going to see him tomorrow so hopefully he steps up.

The last few games with Brissett there were flashes of greatness. I obviously still believe in him. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he had a top 5 receiving season next year. He’s the guy I’d try to deal for but doubt that they will. The only hope is that they’re hitting the reset at QB and may want the ammo. If I am ranking the OSU receivers in terms of dominance over the last handful of years it would look like this(ish): Jeremiah Smith Gap MHJ small gap JSN Carnell Tate Wilson Egbuka Olave

I wanted OBJ before pretty much every move until now. Even though he was showing signs of decline, I would have taken him before the Rams, Ravens and Dolphins (may be forgetting a stop or 2). It’s now been since that Rams Super Bowl I think since he looked like a good player. That ship sailed for me. Finally ready to let go of it…

Ironically, the double down likely would have been Franklin (or maybe Baker). They seemed like the guys that “slipped.” Baker looks like a disaster. Franklin would have ended up as the Benford to Coleman’s Elam. Franklin isn’t as good as Benford but the point being, he looks like a solid starting WR.

As an interesting exercise, I’m curious how you and @GunnerBill would redraft the guys picked in the top 2 rounds? To recap: MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, BTJ, Worthy, Pearsall, Legette, Coleman, McConkey, Polk, & Mitchell are the guys.

The reality is, if it was anyone OTHER than Skylar Thompson they probably would have won.

My thought is that they should sellout to stop the run. Play like you did against the Panthers. The Texans aren’t a great running team but that should still be the focus IMO.