MarlinTheMagician

Run blocking has been Van Rotten, but maybe they get a little more time to gel? I am satisfied Singletary is, at minimum, a solid back - so if they continue on this path I am all in on blaming the line. Maybe Kromer can get it together with them. We have played some good, physical defenses in Rams, Titans and Ravens. I am concerned, but not yet abandoning hope.

Shout out to Dane Jackson. Humble and hungry, he didn't miss a beat. I liked Levi, loved his story and was sad to see him go, but Dane is better. Best Jackson we have had since Fred. Put some respect on the name.

Draft 'em and coach em up. Tremaine must remain!

Frazier wanting him to take a next step and generate more splash plays does not mean Frazier does not realize his value or doesn't want him for the defense. I have seen him speak out strongly for Tremaine several times.

Stay stout up the middle and a reversion never needs to happen. In my (regrettably, too long) experience, once It clicks for a player they rarely revert all other things being equal (unequal things being health, age and the players around the player). Edmunds checks the boxes on age and availabliltiy/injury, so just don't field a weak interior line and he will continue to excel.

First, thanks for the shout-out. If we want him, I believe we have plenty of cap flex in the deals of others that we are not going to walk away from and there can afford to restructure (Allen, White, Miler, etc). I hope.

Not what he is saying -- of course he does not deserve all the credit, just like he doesn't deserve all the blame for past weakness in run defense. He does, however, deserve a good share of credit for the successful pass defense. And his run fits are much, much better (see Baltimore game). People get caught in the old narrative and fall in love with their prior views. They look for confirmation of those views. Confirmation bias is a very well-known phenomenon. Edmunds is a victim of it on this board.

Love the post. Moss is my favorite target for my"b**ching at the moment. Let's see Duke Johnson, who I bet few know weighs more than Moss. A little early for the Cook b**ch train to leave the station. Go Tremaine! Big dog is eating now that we have beef cows upfront that keep him clean. Unlocks his athleticism.

And this year it is not just against the pass. Watch the replay of the 3rd and one on the last drive. He flows correctly to the hole in the middle created by Brandon Bryant's excellent swim move outside. Forces the back to continue down the line towards the outside where Milano absolutely wrecks him. Play is made first and foremost by Bryant (who takes three blockers), but without Milano AND Edmunds filling the back scores and their is no 4th down pick by Poyer.

Both Milano (my fave) and Edmunds are thriving behind the new line. Does not mean the new line is what makes them good, maybe the old line kept them from showing out - we have been soft against the run since before Star and our linebackers were never kept clean before. Daquan Jones and Tim Settle make a big difference, for the linebackers I think the big guys in the middle have mattered as much or more than the emergence of Groot and the signing of Von Miller. Team game, and Milano and Edmunds are excelling at their part of "team".

I don't think there has been a Bills player that has been more polarizing on this board, or in the fan base, since 2018. I too have been frustrated with the failures on run fits and the apparent lack of instinct blitzing and against the run. Starting now, I officially swear off on all of that. Having watched him closely this year, I am an unrepentant Edmunds fan. We need to sign him. While he gets plenty of attention from opposing coaches and national media, I think he is somewhat unsung and definitely under-appreciated by The Mafia. He is a huge difference maker and has really upped his game. We need to find the money, as he is a key piece of the core. One of my favorite Twitter posts was by a Rams fan after the opener: "The Bills defense is unfair. They have an actual Terdactyl playing middle linebacker." We owe this player some love.

Nice call! Love Milano and he does a great job and finishing, but Bryant for sure facilitates it. I thought Bryant looked good, but just watched on TV, no all-22. Great team defense! We may have something with Bryant, they have been developing him.

Seen about enough of Moss, so I would like to see few more reps for Cook and activation of Duke to see what he can do. Seems Moss does not have enough vision, quickness or speed. He is supposed to be a hammer, but he does not seem to excel in picking up short yardage. Activate Duke for a couple games and see if he can bring some juice, get Cook a little more involved too.

I don't know if it was in fact his best game ever, but I thought he was just awesome and that it could have been his best (so far). The sure tacking, even in the open field. Play diagnosis shooting the gap. Man, great game Matt! (Edmunds too).

A year or two ago the interviewed the kicker with the current longest kick (forgot his name), and they were asking him if any kickers in the NFL could hit a 70 yarder. He said there were maybe 2 or 3 and one of them was Bass.

Can't fault McKenzie, he was under extreme duress and exhausted. But I appreciate the helpful posts on timing as I was legitimately curious (could have done without the "yawn") - I can accept there were 8-9 seconds left and 10 is the minimum. Game of not only inches, but a second or two. Too bad about the darn holding penalty, Bass (in my mind), would have for sure popped a 57 yarder without the hold.

Very glad we re-signed Milano. Heckuva player and a great leader by example.

Fair enough. But I think teams probably know what is considered "just enough" - anybody know what that is? Do you usually get a chance to spike it if player is down with 10 seconds left, or no?

Agree. it is not like we can make it much colder only on the visitor's side of the field in December.

There was ten seconds left when McKenzie went down. He tried to run the ball to the ref and a Dolphin slowed him for a second. I am not sure on this, but isn't ten seconds left normally enough to get the ball spotted so QB can spike it? If Josh had spiked it, I think Bass would have drilled the winner from 60 yards. Of course, we will never know. So help me out board, were the refs slow on getting the ball down there? Or we just cut it too close?

They managed the clock fine. When they got the holding penalty it screwed up their time management by taking them out of field goal range and increasing the yards they needed. That burned time. I still think if the darn refs got the ball down in time for Josh to spike, Bass would have nailed a 60 yarder. Dudes got juice for a kicker! And he no doubt wanted to avenge the shank. At the time of the hold they were 57 yards out. Already in range.

I think Bills fans do the opposite of rationalising losses. DOOOM is predicted. It is easy not to feel much doom after this one, at least for me. No chronic weakness with the team was shown, like when Indy ran on us for what seemed like 300 yards. It was hot, we were beat up and we left plays on the field. Stuff happens.

Agree with the poster above. Good thread, a little levity, after a tough game like that!

On to Baltimore. I think McKenzie and Allen both said "we will learn from this." That is the right attitude. It defines nothing, take from it what we can - and yeah, under different circumstances they know, we know and I think even Dolphins fans know (at least the ones I spoke to), that we would beat them handily. We should have today.

Baffled is a good word. But it was so inexplicable it is almost not strong enough. That had just sacked him and it is obvious he does not like pressure. I was screaming "bring the house" and they didn't even bring the base 4. Un-f-ing believable. I thought on the whole the team played its guts out, almost literally. This was pure mental error by Frazier, unforced and inexcusable when you have young back-ups trying to cover super-fast wideouts. Why drop a bunch of guys into short zones on third and 22? Still upset about that play call, and not really upset with us about anything else (upset with Wilkins for roughing up Josh, but we will even that up in Buffalo). So dumb.