MarlinTheMagician

Too early to give up on him, IMHO. Needs more anchor. Played less than a year though. Bernard showed no more his freshman year.

Thanks for posting. Knew we got him in a waiver mixup, the article fleshed it out. Good job!

Like it. He will do more for the team, whether or not he ever touches the field, than some developmental lineman we never heard of when we already have a flock of DL and OL on the 53. Let the man retire a Bill. I am sure Hyde added last year on the PS and so will Po. Just don't let him near Keon!

Gotta be happy for Shavers. Maybe you can make some mismatches putting him and Keon both wide - if they have a short corner, he will have to play one of the tall guys! I think Shavers could have some upside.

Leodis can still run --

Hope they don't give up on Carter or Shavers. C'mon boys.

C'mon, boot Moore. He is a zero, didn't want to sign him. Let's roll with Shavers and we go from there. Kendrick perhaps?

A different, recent, publication indicated he might have to take an incentive-laden deal to get in that range, and threw out $5 million gtd with potential to get to $8 or $9. Plus, if he really thinks he is healthy (neck surgery in July to stop persistent stingers in both shoulders that have gone on for years), there are few better stages to "prove it" on than this year's Bills. For now, I will hope against hope for Tre.

They should get Samuel in for a visit right away to see how close to ready he is. Maybe a one-year, $5 million prove it deal with incentives?

Reposted a fake Twitter account that said he was, today. But he would be a good alternative - how much for a one-year deal? Not sure we can find the coins in the couch it would take.

I took a lot of heat when I posted my concerns about Cole on May 29. Many failed to realize I was half-joking, but also honestly concerned about Cole stepping up and being what we drafted him to be. While it is correct he is not technically playing Strong Safety for us (since we don't use that designation), that is his background and he has not looked like he has the deep coverage skills normally associated with a free safety. Unfortunately, so far he has done nothing to set aside the concerns I expressed in May. The best ability (as we all know) is availability, and right now Cole is one of our bigger risk factors. Seems like a good dude and I truly hope he shows out and has a great career. Now would be a great time to get that going!

Indeed! Thanks coach. Thanks for everything.

Not hard, go to YouTube, type "Josh Allen's first game" - worth the watch.

That one pass is one of my favorite Bills memories - and in a preseason game! But so full of promise and, finally, hope -- !! The NY Times wrote up that single throw extensively the next day. Here is what they said: The New Era Field crowd had given Allen a standing ovation when he was announced as Buffalo’s new quarterback to begin the second half. Then he showed off the arm that made him the seventh overall draft choice and has captured so many imaginations. Redmond didn’t know exactly what would happen on Allen’s debut play, but it called for max protection. “Usually that means we’re taking a shot,” Redmond said. Allen faked a handoff to running back Marcus Murphy, then dropped back even farther. “The play call had some deep routes,” Murphy said, “and I think it was all up to him.” As Redmond helped hold the Panthers at bay, his mental clock told him the ball should’ve been thrown already. “But it wasn’t,” he said. Redmond couldn’t help but wonder if they’d be scraping Allen off the artificial turf. Panthers DB Gaulden was in the middle of the field and read Allen’s deep setup. Gaulden had two receivers to survey yet didn’t wonder for long who Allen’s target would be. Allen quickly patted the ball twice while locking on receiver Robert Foster, sprinting up the left sideline. “He’s staring one receiver down the whole time,” Gaulden said. “That’s what you expect from a rookie quarterback. He just let it loose.” Rookie or not, Allen’s release could be compared to few others in recent NFL memory. “We heard the roar,” said Redmond, “when the ball went up.” Allen’s majestic spiral whistled 60 yards through the humid, night air. This was why the Bills traded up to draft him. This was why fans stood and applauded when Allen simply entered the game. Panthers cornerback Kevon Seymour wasn’t on the field, but the former Bill watched in awe from the sideline. “When he got in there and showed that deep ball,” Seymour said, “I was, like, whooof!”

Check that, just found the highlight - 60 yards. Total beast. Watched his second half highlights from that game, you could see clearly what he is today that preseason game. Laser arm, toughness, running ability.

Man, 2018 seems like yesterday. Who could forget the Peterman start in Baltimore? Or Josh's first start at home against San Diego where our corner quit at halftime! Was so hot that day, hottest Bills game I think I ever attended. I remember also Josh's first pass in the preseason - just walking to my seats after halftime and he throws a laser 40-50 yards down the field - just missed at the sideline by, I think, Robert Foster. Seemed like he was destined to be great as soon as I saw that preseason pass, even though an incompletion. Anyone remember that one?

I think this is a distinct possibility, but I think it is coin flip. Thus my concern. As other posters stated, he was undeniably tentative, at least in the first half of the year. Could be he didn't trust what he did see and didn't see enough - rookie problem that will clear. There was some improvement in the second half, but I did not see it as dramatic. I think he has a lot to prove this year to justify his draft status - he will either emerge or fade. He definitely does not seem to have the quicks to be a plus FS. I think his path is SS and to capture that opportunity he is going to have to assert himself more physically. Certainly could happen, but he has not proven it yet or showed enough flashes that I feel comfortable. Utah is over. Don't care about any insults, he is a big variable in the D - if he is a plus NFL starter our D looks a lot better than if he can't break into the lineup. Given apparent coverage limitations he needs to do that with physicality.

Take Spender Brown - clean cut, but a real bastard from day one. Wanted to put defenders though the turf. Was always obvious. Same for our extra-lineman dude whose name I forget at the moment. Mean.

Kind of like it. Guarantees a level playing field and rewards ingenuity.

Bless you. Hang out with Cole some this summer. Corrupt him.

Don't think you will get that. Hell, if not one other poster is worried at all about Bishop's development, I guess that does make me feel better. BUT - there is no way the top two safeties would have been mocked to us so often, or that persons on this board would have clamored for one of them, if Cole had balled out last year. The concern was not that "he didn't play well" - I thought he kind of played okay-ish. The concern was I did not see plays that demonstrated the traits we drafted him for -- size and speed used to deliver authoritative hits. Take Josh, or Shakir or Spencer Brown - they all did that even when experiencing rookie struggles. Not trashing the young man, not even saying he didn't play decent for a rook, but show me a little more sandpaper.

When someone says "kidding" it is usually a tell!

I do feel reassured by the first paragraph - and heck, I even know that is absolutely a truism, can't judge a book by its cover. But I really want to see it. I would rather he miss badly, but aggressively, than settle for "scheme sound." Not saying he will settle for that, but I want to see it. Match my SAT score bro, dare you! Kidding, but I very much want to be stupid here. I want to see him square some folks up. If you can honestly say you saw a lot of that last year, I was not watching the same performance. It is time. I hope it happens.

Agree with the second part, but you have to admit Tasker looked like a choirboy in a kind of psychopathic way -- still does. Like Lenny Dykstra (who looked innocent when very young). Plus, my man Tasker played with unbridled aggression from the first play I ever saw of his. Dude was just a baller, and I am sincerely hopeful that is in Cole. I want to see it. In the NFL. Let's go Cole! I think he is a key for the D - a fact that is noted, but I think underrated.

Yeah, is similar to the bad feeling I had about Josh Rosen, only different. Looking at the pictures and interviews of that pencil-necked tool, all I could think was "never, ever will be a leader of strong men, and therefore will fail as an NFL QB." So ffs me all you want, I have a track record 😀 And like I said, would love to be wrong. Rapp - he is a train wreck the way he injures everyone and can't say healthy himself, but just looking at him you can picture him putting a hurt on people. That is great - and I read the same kinds of reviews when he was drafted. The play I saw last year was more tentative, in my eyes. Could just be because he was a rook and missed time, but I hope what you saw at Utah translates to the NFL - it doesn't always. If it does, and I am 100% rooting for him, my next worry will be "can he stay healthy".