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Running QBs don't last.

What blows my mind about Fitz is how freaking durable the guy is. Even at 37 he looks spry. There's something about his stance in the pocket and the way he distributes his weight that makes him seem invincible back there. In like 15 years of play it took a broken leg to get him off the field, at least that's the only serious injury I can recall.

I'm not saying PFF is infallible, I'm merely trying to explain their methodology -- and I understand that may be nigh impossible to some here. You can't use 3 or 4 stats to discount their conclusions. We already have metrics to compare QB's based on throwing stats like passer rating and QBR. I'll illustrate this one more time using an extreme example, and then I'll bow out to let the PFF bashing party resume. Let's say QB #1 goes 0/20 for 0 yards, 0 TD 0 INT. Every single pass is absolutely perfect - on time, hits each receiver right between the numbers into both hands, but is dropped. 20 dropped passes! QB #2 goes 14/20 for 200 yards, 2 TD 1 INT. Yup, PFF is going to grade QB #1 higher, even though he didn't complete a single pass! He had ZERO yards throwing! Are they nuts?!? Their rationale is, "Look, QB #1 did everything perfectly, get him some receivers that can catch and that line would be 20/20 for 300 yards 3TD 0INT. Again, I'm not saying this is the best way to compare players, but you can't point at stats to claim their method is hogwash because it's really not a results-driven methodology.

Try reading the article. You might learn something.

Excellent article that was pretty insightful. Allen had more positive plays than any other QB last week, but he takes a slight hit for negative plays. “When you look at our data historically, the positively graded throws tend to fluctuate more than the negatives,” Palazzolo said. “It’s somewhat intuitive. A quarterback controls his negatives more than his positives." I thought it was fascinating that Mike McCarthy met with them to go over Rodgers' 5TD 0 INT game and actually came away in agreement with PFF. The day Nick Foles threw for over 400 yards, seven touchdowns and zero interceptions for Kelly’s Eagles, his PFF grade was on par with Allen’s from Sunday. And that was mostly a result of how open the receivers were due to their own talent and Kelly’s scheme. So the team at PFF walked Kelly through their process. Kelly pointed out observations PFF graders made that he and his staff would never look at, but that just meant they did things differently. Once Kelly realized how much they knew and the value of the information they had, he became an investor in the company.

That is crazy

Sure, just get the greatest QB of all time and pair him with the greatest coach of all time. Simple! Gosh, why haven't other teams tried to emulate this?

Exactly.

Joe B for your entertainment

Very impressed with the kid's composure in a collapsing pocket. He was a cool customer under duress all night.

Oh my.

ngl, I thought he was already up there.

Unfortunately, we don't play the Jets every week.

Are you telling me that scouring the internet for any criticism, then grouping up and attacking the author of said criticism on Twitter isn't going to propel this team to success?

Perhaps merely posting in this thread has lowered my intelligence. I guess it's just fashionable to be outraged these days.

"I found some random people on Twitter that agree with me, I told you guys the Earth was flat!"

Newton is a redemption/comeback story after looking like his career might be shot, and he's doing it for a HoF coach that is starting the season with a new QB for the first time in 20 years. Like it or not, the Brady-Newton swap is the story of the season and is going to be under the microscope all year. There's plenty of praise for Allen out there, but people here are looking for criticism. Some fans are expecting the entire internet and social media universe to come together and worship Allen. It's not gonna happen. This.

The goal line playcalling by Garrett was mindbogglingly moronic, on both series. He likely cost them 14 points. Get the ball to one of the top RBs in the league, or design fancy roll-out plays for a QB with 13 career starts? The NY media is going to love him.

Running QB's simply don't last, and that's the big picture. Fans have been saying the game "has changed" since the days of Randall Cunningham, and they've been wrong for the past 3 decades. Russell Wilson ran 3 times for 29 yds yesterday. He's not a running QB anymore. He doesn't run the read-option. 2-3 times a game he escapes pressure and runs out of bounds 9 yards up the field. That's vastly different than the play of Jackson, Allen, and Murray.

^ This. He's a sure tackler and excels and stopping the run, and is the best FA LB still out there.

1) The stadium is off limits. 2) No, drunken idiots smashing themselves through tables set on fire would not be good PR.

I mean, he's hit 9.5 sacks in McD's system before, it wouldn't be that shocking. But yeah, at age 33 I'm taking in the under for sure.

If some of you would wipe away your tears, take your blood pressure medication, and actually read the article you would find it's not that crazy. He basically predicts a 3-way fight between Buffalo, NE, and Miami. He has concerns about our offense and QB, which are certainly fair (to anyone outside of this forum I guess). He doesn't even predict NE will make the playoffs, which makes some of these "He's a NE lover" rants even more bizarre.