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Browns will win. Book it. Chubb is good and the Bills run D is leaky. Couple that with Jarvis, a good WR, lining up across from Wallace and you have an offense that at home can put up some points. I would assume everyone here hates Mayfield but he looked good today and with the Beckham sideline statements today, plus the two prima donnas getting their hands slapped for their cleats, I expect them to come out and fight at home. And given the pop gun, 1970s era offense the Bills run, with 20 passes at home and a seemingly lack of trust in Allen, this is a loss. Take the Browns with or without the points. Oh yeah.... and Kareem Hunt is eligible to play.

Classic Homer right here. Good lord. Always clap, always wear rose color glasses, always ignore the quality of the teams they beat.... good lord. Proudly booed them again today. How many times are they going to line up DeMarco and Gore in the I or offset I and get no gain before they realize this isn't 1958? Enjoy winning badly. It's not sustainable and it will beat no team in this league with a winning record. But yeah, "convincing" win today over the 1-7 Redskins and a rookie QB who had the handcuffs on just like the Bills treat Allen. Think this team is beating the Ravens who are crushing the Pats? Or Chiefs? Or Houston? Nope, nope, nope, and nope.

This is my favorite homer stance. You can't be critical of the obvious inadequacies of the team because they beat a 1 and something dumpster fire. This team has beaten the Jets, Dolphins, Redskins, Bengals, Giants, and Titans, which are a combined 9-41. None has a winning record. They've looked bad in a number of them. But yeah, if everyone hear drinking the Koolaid is OK with winning and "not changing what's working" I can't want until they get steamrolled in the playoffs... if they make it. Maybe then you'll be open to assessing this team's weaknesses? Probably not.

One who doesn't see fandom as a social organization or place to meet people. One who doesn't drink the Koolaid spewed here and by the likes of Chris Brown, John Murphy, and Sal Capaccio. One who never, ever wears a jersey with the name of another man on my back because I am older than 12. One who is analytical and organizational, and therefore statistically driven, and as such believes leadership, planning, and uh oh process, that is centered on developing a team based on emotional intelligence, football intelligence, and work ethic produces more results than picking the fastest player with the best 3-cone shuffle. One who is not emotionally attached to a single player, which leaves me able to see them as parts of a system and to accept when the part is faulty. One whose week isn't ruined by a loss or glorious because of a win. One who refuses to diminish the achievement of the Pats, Bill Belichek, and Tom Brady out of spoiled grapes and homerism. The whining, asterisks, and general childishness around the Pats is very entertaining to me. One who is a diehard fan of the team, win or lose. One who boos and cheers and believes that only cheering and not booing is why we live in this kindergarten country where everyone gets a trophy. One who is a STH despite the lean years when I should have bailed, when I ate tickets constantly for games I couldn't make and literally couldn't give them away. One who will raise a glass with any fan but won't tolerate conversations about ifs and maybes about your favorite player when the data and my eyes tell me otherwise while yours are blinded by the charging buffalo. Cheers.

Don't need to listen. Mike is undeniably more intelligent, well spoken, and professional than Sal because Sal is a homer posing as a journalist, which is why everyone here loves him. He's the fans' confirmation bias. He beats the drum for the team, is rarely if ever critical, and is basically a fan with a microphone. Schopp is not. Schopp has the ability and willingness to be critical, Sal would rather bury his nose as deep as possible into the jockstrap of any player who would offer up a handshake. The way you can tell the difference is Sal is dying to be friends with the players, calling them by their first name rather than taking the professional reporter approach to referring to subjects by their last name or by their title.

I am no blind homer Allen supporter but at the same time, I am also an unabashed detractor of QBR, which is supposed to measure, magically, the QB's impact on winning or the game's output. This is a 5-1 team and he's lead how many comebacks in that record? So my point is, QBR is no better a metric to measure a QB than just reviewing the whole on one's stats and outcomes. It's an index, and indices are fraught with issues, the biggest is variable selection, which in the case of QBR is unknown. So when you hide the variables you use to construct the index, you essentially invalidate it as a measure as it provides no review by anyone. And further, since your intent is to use the index to give yourself credibility as some "genius" that never happens because you get ignored due to people not understanding the index. In other words, it's classic Great and Powerful Oz where you have to accept the premise and not look behind the curtain. It's simply shite.

He's somewhere between Brady ad Favre, got it. Wow. I'd advise a review of Brady's first 4-5 year stats his; JA isn't close to replicating any of those years if we extrapolate this year to the end. Brady has never had one season with a completion percentage below 60%. He's never had a season where his TF to INT ratio was what close to inverted, like JA's 15:19 through this first 16 starts. The constant JA hopes and dreams here are laughable in not only how much people's live revolve around this question but also the lengths they go to try and compare him to Hall of Famers. Maybe he'll be good. But maybe he'll flame out. But in this pass happy league, he has some of the traits you don't like to see. Bad reads, indecisiveness, lower than average accuracy (I admit it's getting better).

Classic thread of excuses and blind homerism. I want this kid to succeed. But he leaves a lot to be desired. The problem on this board is no one wants to consider context. They want to view Allen in a vacuum, ignoring all other QBs and examples as they make excuse after excuse and say "next week" or blame play calling. Play calling is based on the OC, HC and Allen's input so they are plays he needs to execute. He's troublingly indecisive. He had multiple plays today he made where he waited and waited to throw a ball when he should have done so immediately and instead wanted the WR "more open" than he was. His deep ball is atrocious. He's regressed there and teams shouldn't even worry about being beaten over the top. I like the better completion percentage. I like the leadership. I like the attitude. The mental side of the game is where he's bad. And the context issue that everyone here misses is hilarious. Watch other younger QBs, the great ones were great from the get go. No one rises slowly and becomes an All-Pro or Super Bowl winner. The rise is immediate and meteoric. This is a slow burn.

Sal is the biggest joke in local media. A total jock sniffer, an Uncle Rico. He's also a classic humble bragger. Just don't dig the guy, his over the top, super hyper, childlike giddyness just oozes jock sniffer. The way he refers to players by their first name shows his desire to try and seem like he's friend with players and not covering them. I think any reporter who refers to players y their first name isn't professional and distancing themselves from their work. But Sal's biggest credibility problem is the homerism, evident by this rant and this point: ”I’m not going to pick the Bills to win, but I’m not going to concede victory. I’m done with that. Period.” By not picking them to win, moron, you are conceding victory. Put your Bills underoos on and go to work.

Great observation!!!!! Most of these data and analytics guys have likely never taken elementary stats, much less an advanced stats course. So the tend to report these kinds of numbers without any discussion of the impact outliers have on skew the average. Maybe report the median? Any kid in an intro to stats class will tell you the median is often more telling than the average as it's susceptible to outliers in the data.

The day I start a) listening to a couple kids act like experts and b) let them explain how we should react as fans is the day I end being cogent, rational thinker. Yes the extremes are annoying.... the rose colored glasses homer loaded with excuses and what if's and the "they'll always suck because they're the Bills... but the BIlls fandom is exactly like American politics, dominated by the ends with the middle too busy and more rational and hence staying out of the conversation. The call in shows are the ends. Unlistenable in post game on the drive home when they go to callers. Music time at that point.

Dallas... pretty funny. They beat one team in common with, with the same starting QB. They beat the Dolphins, which is like Shaq going to the playground and dunking on 10 year olds. And they beat the Redskins, who last I check are the most mediocre team in history and have Case Keenum as their QB. But yeah, that 3-0 is soooo much better than the Bills. But it's the media.... way more idiots in the US clicking everything about the Cowgirls than a 3-0 Bills team, which I think is better and looking up but has feasted on the bottom of the barrel and didn't dominate in any way like the Cowboys did.

Never ever use the phone, always my issued cards. They're foolproof.

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Yes. Next question.

But on my ride in today, culture is meaningless. Simon, who has become an even more timid and weak person because the dominant personality that is White, both parrot the point that culture is irrelevant. But what I love the most is, they'll take the opposite tact on occasion that teams, front offices, and coaching is "dysfunctional" when a team sucks. How can you at once discount the broad term "culture" as meaningless because talent and wins are all that matters but then suggest dysfunction is creating losses. It's the most laughable argument from radio hosts who basically work as a duo and never in a large, complex organization where the culture, which can be simply defined as the attitudes, behaviors, and expectations of a group, can severely influence the performance of that group. Making it even worse, these same simpletons, who've likely never set foot in an advanced stats course continue to argue that individual disconnected advanced measures tell us about winning. No stat is predictive of winning by itself. And until they develop the complex multilevel model that explains ALL the variables that cause, nor are correlated to, winning, then they're useless blowhard. ' They'd do themselves a favor if they admitted that culture plays some currently immeasurable but clearly tangible role. Coming back from 16 down on the road in the second half of a road game against a division opponent requires an organizational (in this case the team) belief it can win. That means an attitude of never quitting. We've seen how many teams turtle in these situations. If everyone quits, it's over. It's just pretty unreal the rampant infection within WGR's two primary show hosts on this issue. But also awesome when you hear current and retired players say it DEFINITELY MATTERS. How these nerds can continue to say it doesn't when actual professional athletes say it does is stunningly tone deaf. But that's what happens when being right is the onlt thing that matters and you defend it in the face of information that says otherwise. And serious, when is Simon going to retire, he's so bad. He's still as good as he probably was in Intro to Broadcast Journalism.

Yep. Gave him 15 minutes before I turned that garbage off. He called Bell's 93 total yards "fantastic" which is hilariously laughable since Singletary had 98 on 14 less touches. What's above "fantastic"? And he opened with some snarky comment that his puppet was laughing at in the background, something about the last time the Bills came back from 16 down in the third being like 22 years ago or something. He said "I guess that could be right" which is awesome because this blowhard ahole touts himself as someone who remembers everything... unless that means the Bills, which he loves cutting down. I'd listen to WGR if they didn't populate shows with idiots like this.

Never subscribed, never will. When I stopped subscribing to the Buffalo News, I gave up all media subscriptions. And today's front page of the Buffalo News website (yes, I checked headlines daily and if something interests me, I find it on WIVB, etc. or forego it altogether,) is a classic example... who the flub gives a flying flub about that talentless skank one of the Bills players, who if I recall cheated on her with a UB student, is dating. A classes pile of waste who aired their dirty laundry on the iternet like it was something to be proud of. And this is who the news covers? Disgusting. Why do we hold these people up as something worthy of our time and interest and, gasp, admiration? Same with players. She's married to a cheater. Stuck with him. She's a loser. He's a loser wearing the laundry of the team I root for, unfortunately. Maybe the Atlantic focuses on player people should actually look up to, with interesting stories worthy of admiration. I'll never know.

Well, his DL is pretty wicked and our OL has 4 new starters. So yeah, I suspect they win that battle tomorrow. It's my big concern, the OL's ability to run and pass block well enough.

I would have said "inaccurate."

As a lifelong WNYer and STH, I do not think we owe the Pegulas one penny to build a new stadium and if that means he packs up and take his team elsewhere, so be it. Decades of corporate welfare have gotten this region and its rank and file people where exactly? End it with a big fat no to the fracking king. He doesn't need the money, period. The stadium experience at NEF gets worse every year. The train horn is unbearable. You can't talk to people during commercials because they don't want to do anything other than listen to commercials at 150 dB and the concession prices are outrageous...I might have maybe one or two beers the entire year, never eat food because it sucks; they should be required to have drinking fountains and refilling stations (save me the fear-mongering about allowing refillable containers into the stadium, my old man used to bring in Thermos of hot chocolate) I think over time, the NFL is going to struggle to retain and grow fans. Less kids play and will play, except in the south where shots to the head don't have the same impact. Soccer, especially the EPL is a better sport, especially on TV. No roided up former players screaming ridiculously obvious hot takes passed off as "color analysis". Their pre-game, halftime, and post game shows are top notch affairs, again well spoken, intelligent, analytical takes at a standard volume, no Berman-esque stupidity aimed at children and frat boys. And the games take less than two hours of your time. Pick a team, tune in and enjoy. That is all.

Ive been trying to gag down WGR55 on my 10 minutes commute each day to get some NFL talk prior to the season. But it's devolved further than I ever thought it could with the fantasy and gambling BS. I get it, these guys are nerds and live a fantasy life covering children's games for a living but holy hell. My favorite is when they act like they could be a real sports GM and question everything then undercut that 'credibility" two days later saying how hard it is to run a "fantasy team." Hilarious. Sorry, if you're a fantasy sports player and junkie, you're missing a lot in life.

Still going to gamble the old fashioned way and not throw money at NFL owners who, on top of being disgustingly wealthy through antitrust exemptions and local corporate welfare, fought against legal gamble for years until they figured out a way to profit from it. F them. Keep your neighborhood bookie in business and also find the pathway to overseas books.

This has already been stated to be stupid, a waste of time, and no impact in winning. Just ask Schopp and White on WGR55. The case is closed since you can't measure this with on-field/ice analytics, it's therefore not significant. Move along. Those two are trained quants with the education and experience to prove that without a doubt, the only thing that matters are the host of singular and disconnected, descriptive, non-inferential measures they read about somewhere. Qualitative data is inferior, so leadership, relationships, and respect do not have a quantity attached to them and therefore can't be measured nor possibly matter.