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I have a confession to make to the entire Bills fan base & NFL fans every where , I am a heterosexual ... WHO CARES X 1000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't see how any Bills fan can't like what Whaley is building here , we haven't had this type of movement in the draft since Pollian was here ! You need a GM that isn't afraid to go get the guy he needs to win & then the way he traded Sj to get back some of the picks he gave up great moves !!

There are a lot of them left & i think there will be some left in the late rounds due to there personal situations . If Whaley is as smart of a football guy as it seems he is turning out to be then i think he will be smart enough to realize especially if a top performing QB is sitting there for the taking in a late round & is a value he can't pass up he will grab one as a really good back up plan . Cause let's face it if you try to go on what we saw from EJ last year there's not a lot on that tape that say's "This is Your Guy" !!

Would some one please help me understand the thought process ? After the deal the Bills GM Doug Whaley made yesterday to get what some are calling the 2nd best player in this years draft & most say is the #1 draft prospect at the WR position this year plus that Watkins could be the best WR in the draft since Calvin Johnson (aka; Megatron) , there is a lot of talk weather it be in the fan base or in the media that the Bills paid to high a price ?? From where i'm sitting (and i know you all will tell me if i'm thinking wrongly) We had a first round pick this year , we traded it to the Browns to move up 5 spots so we gained those 5 to get a top 5 guy in the draft . So we still have our higher pick this year , yes we did give up next years 1st & 4th but we could have gained quite possibly a history making player with those 2 picks . If all goes as planned (& i think it will) with another couple good picks our Bills will finally be in the play offs which means our first round pick next year will be much lower let's say in the 20's of the first round which is not bad but it's not great either plus a 4th round pick (but refer to my first paragraph). So we got the guy we wanted for a 1st & a 4th which could quite possibly turn out to be better than our HOF WR Andre Reed . So where is this paid WAY TO MUCH COST ? What was Bruce, Andre, Thurman, & Kelly worth to the Bills ? As long as EJ is THAT QB that the Bills think he is then this is a no brainer (& that has yet to be determined), but i am apparently missing something in the translation which is why i am asking my fellow fans to help me with this interpretation . Not to mention that if there is any possibility of trading say TJ Graham (dead weight) or Hogan for a late round pick ? or possibly doing as has been alluded to in the media trading Stevie for another mid to late round pick & dumping his contract then it makes this deal even better . The only thing that will make this a crappy deal is if Watkins turns out to be Maybin then yes it was way to much to move up & get this guy & stranger things have happened, but i'm thinking a lot of the thoughts of this being to much to give up is B/C it's the Bills ! If this was say Dallas , the Broncos , Philly or The Patriots i'm thinking this would be the smartest move in the draft but B/C the Bills never get any respect this was way to costly a move !! Please help my confusion

There's always gonna be the guys that don't think so !! Just like those that don't think we need a new stadium so let's just sit back & do the least possible till we watch the trucks taking the team to another city ! OR let's go out & grab this thing by the A** & show them what the Bills are made of !!

For one you can bet Hackett is loving it !!!

He won't if he's laying on his back or running for his life ! But if he can't do it now with these weapons the EJ faithful will know he's not the guy & will know it sooner rather than later !!

Now if we can pick up Taj Boyd in the 5th that would be great !!

Screw the pundits or experts as some call them ! Last year they said Cordy Glenn wasn't worth the pick & wasn't good enough to be a LT & look what he's done . So let's just sit back for another 5 years & take the left overs & see where we go from there . Basically we gave up a 1st & a 4th for Sammy , we still had a high 1st this year & we got a great player , and you get what you pay for !! Teams that win championships don't sit around and just take what comes to them you have to gamble once in a while . Whaley & company have just shown the Bills fan base that things have truly changed at the GM level & i'm liking what i've seen so far . Now if they can take some of our players like Hogan, Graham , & maybe even SJ & turn them into some picks no matter where they might be then the Bills will be & are in better hands now .

There was a article that had said that between Whaley & 2 other guys on his staff they had like 7 championships between them & if this is the way they got to those championships i'm all in B/C what we have done in the past sure hasn't gotten us any where !! Plus after what they said about Cordy Glenn & to see what he has done for the Bills o Line to heck with what they all say !!

YA but we can't say the same for Chris Hogan & Tj Graham ...

It means the same as it does for TJ ... SEE YA !!!!

I'm not sure that they get rid of SJ cause it doesn't make a lot of sense cap wise this year but TJ Grahams future is not looking real bright at the moment . If there is a suitor for either of these guy s SJ or TJ they need to be on the phone with Jacksonville pronto !!!

The commish should step back & tell him to go piss up a rope !! Then he should tell him to take his happy ass to Canada & play for the CFL or stay in the states & play for the arena league cause the NFL don't need you !! This country is becoming way to politically correct & sensitive … Get over it !!

One thing that really stuck out in Whaley's interview was when he said "we need a receiver that can play catch not drop" And out of all the TE prospects in the draft even though Ebron is the one mentioned going to the Bills he has the highest percentage of drops per pass attempts to him , even though he has the superior athletic ability and can get open it's 60/40 if he'll catch it . Is that what you want with the game on the line ? I don't !! Every year i get feelings about players & sometimes i'm wrong but i just get a bad vibe about Ebron & i hope the Bills go with some one other than him ...

(Insert whiney voice here) But he's to much like Flutie & he sucked !!!

Last year shortly before this time we were going the Exhaustive search for a head coach . One of the EX HC's that really wanted to go to work for the Bills & even said as much was interviewed but in the end it had seemed that Marrone had the job before the interviews even started . This year that same coach after taking a year off for what ever the reason got hired . His name is Lovie Smith . I was wondering that if Lovie comes out & just sets that team on fire & they take the division by storm how many fans will go into the "I Told You SO" mode & if it would be warranted ? I as many thought Marrone was a homer hire but since then i have softened a bit . I still can't see how you can pass on a guy with his experience & winning percentage . It makes about as much sense as the Bills firing Wade Phillips after bringing the team to the play offs . I guess there are some things we will never understand ! If Marrone continues on the path that he has & EJ takes a jump this year & takes us to the play offs i will soften even more but if the team flounders under his watch i think it will definitely be a "I told you so" Moment ...

I'll second that . The only thing is why not keep him around as a back up if nothing else unless you could generate a couple of picks for him ... I hope in our situation EJ turns out to be the guy but i really wish they wouldn't put all there QB's we have in one basket & figure that were good with it especially with all the arm talent coming out this year !!

Well i'm glad to see our QB of the future thinking that he will make the sophomore jump to be one of the stars of the NFL but i hope he isn't a bit premature in his actions !! If he is basing it off of what he did last year i hope he has some insiders knowledge to what he saw or is seeing to become this year & i hope he's got a good source !! I know as a fan the jury is still out & i'm not going to jump as the Bills did with Fitz thinking this is the second coming until i see something a bit stronger to lay my money out in the stock market for the guy ... http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10863426/ej-manuel-buffalo-bills-stock-sold-brokerage-firm

This will be the first time i ever even attempted to or thought of putting together something that resembled a mock draft but seeing all of you others wish list which is pretty much what a MOCK draft is i thought why not WTH !! I am not going to waste your's or my time going through all 32 teams & how i think the picks will fall i am just going to lay out how i hope our picks COULD go in the first 4 rounds & how i personally think it would best help our team today & in the future with these picks . I know my picks will be scrutinized & may not even get any reply posts at all but hey i am going to have fun with it & i hope some of these picks & the reasons i pick them you will be able to understand at the end of this post ... With our 1st round pick i would take a Tackle because it all starts in the trenches & they need to give our new QB every chance to make plays , not to mention giving our RB's a better game would also help EJ's game ! I would like to see Taylor Lewan as our choice here because of his nastiness & versatility along the O line . With our 2nd round pick i would take Kevin Benjamin the WR out of Fl. State, this would be another pick that would help EJ & given their prior playing time together the amount of time to get familiar would be much less time consuming making it a faster impact to the offense & he has the size the Bills have been looking for at WR . With the 3rd round pick i would take Chris Borland from Wisconsin . The guy reminds me of a mixture of Zack Thomas & London Fletcher not real big but a great team guy with a nonstop motor & could be there at this pick . The only thing is he is more of a 3/4 LB so maybe not the best fit ? For the 4th round i would go with the best QB there, like a Taj Boyd , Mettenberger , AJ McCarron type or who ever is the best QB left available at this pick . My reason for it is because the Bills fans have all but put Tuel out to pasture for one bad start in his rookie year so if that be the case then why not bring in another guy to take his roster spot with a higher up side to his game ? We have Thad as our back up so the new guy could do what Tuel is doing & learn for a year plus with the possibility of being a future trade bait or starter if the plan doesn't pan out . This years QB class is suppose to be hands & feet above last years which was when we picked our QB of the future & i'm all in on giving EJ a fair shake, but given his injuries last year & his inconsistency's IMHO it would be good to have a better back up plan & a 4th (or even a 5th) round pick wouldn't be a waste as you all would call it to get a developmental QB with a more upside . Well there's my mock wish list of players for the first 4 rounds that i think would best help our team today & in the future & could be really good players for a long time for the Bills !!

Sounds to me like he might have the "do you know who my uncle is" syndrome !! He may be good but his attitude sounds as if it sucks & the coach doesn't want that spreading through out the locker room . May have messed up a great chance to play for a good school with Taj leaving this year for the draft .

I 110% agree with you ! The guy was in the perfect position to learn under Payton Manning as a #2/ #3 QB & as you said the dude just wins . But i believe because of his strong moral & belief structure the guy was not given the opportunity that others would have been given they wins that he had . The dude would beyond a shadow of a doubt have worked harder than any one on the team to change what ever he needed to to become a better QB & if a coach would have worked around his strengths he would still be winning for a team some where because thats what he does . It's just a shame that because he didn't fit the mold he has been tossed aside with out a reasonable fair shake even if that means sitting behind another QB or on a practice squad to just see if he can be developed ... The entire thing makes as much sense as some of the fans here hating Flutie Go Figure !!

Sure why not that would gee the guys something more to play for . WHy not add who ever wins the game their conference gets home field in the super bowl . Meaning if the AFC wins one of the AFC teams get to host the super bowl at a AFC venue in see 2 years ??

Is Graham Weinstein the anchor on ESPN's sports Center WKBW Channel 7's News Anchor Irv's son ?? HMMM