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I would feel that’s significant. Because it cuts totally across the norms and goes against what they are incentived to say. this is akin to the wife asking “does this make me look fat?” if you answer of “course not, you look great” that could be totally true, or avoiding drama. If you say “yea that looks terrible” it probably means she looks bad. Unless you are know to like to sleep on the couch. its not that hard a conversation to follow. We aren’t knocking her or trying to discredit her, we are just saying it doesn’t say much. Do you really never weigh the persons motivations/incentives/consequences at all in evaluating whether what they say is meaningful?

Because I don’t rate credibility based on if I agree with the statement or if it makes me feel good? again, she could be doing GREAT, but when you ask someone that’s going to say she’s doing great no matter what’s happening then the article isn’t impactful

You could just say I was right. It’s ok to concede you don’t really know the guy instead of some silliness about there being a lot of variables. He came with warts, and someone familiar was giving you good feedback on who he is as a player. It was a good opportunity to learn about him instead of cheerleading

Really?

Is too many variables code for “I only watched a highlight video and only argue the positives for most players”? All the things chandler are pointing out are consistent knocks. He’s not a great route runner or technician which limits him. He double clutches or body catches a lot of balls. He could develop- no one is saying he can’t- but it’s a big task he’s likely not a big contributor in the short term even if he’s suddenly become passionate about his craft

There wasn’t much in the way of specifics. She could be great, or they could be playing nice. I dint think anyone here is saying she’s stupid and just eye candy, but we don’t know much about what she’s bringing to the room yet.

Ive got to ask John.... why do you think that he was a 7th rounder, didn’t make his 1st team, and sat on our practice squad? Just his qb?

Thats about the least weird situation I expected coming from you.

Thats not really essentially what it was if we had to use additional picks to get a few of those guys. Listing guys that cost multiple picks obviously skews it towards us. Ultimately, we will see how Mahomes plays

Fair, and why I tried not to delve any deeper than the current content. Didn’t want to spiral tooooo far.

In a vacuum, sure. In the wider context of society (which is where the meme originated) - I’ve yet to see what the acceptable version of protesting looks like, especially for minorities. The goal line seems to change frequently.

Did he add anything new to the story or just rehash the previous tmz interview/police report content?

Luck doesn’t have to be a dirty word. I know the American dream is purely merit based but we all get good and bad breaks and this team worked hard and caught a few breaks. That’s not an insult to them. They got a little lucky- no shame in that.

I’m not arguing any flag code related points. Simply that it’s silly to pretend the status quo wasn’t already political. Though regardless the teeth in the code- if the argument is players must respect the flag but the person espousing that argument doesn’t follow the same codes of respect - it’s a tiny bit hypocritical, no? Not that I think either should be punished but conversationally we can agree it’s a bit of a jerk move to cite it against someone else but not follow it yourself?

Ding ding ding.... those saying tvey they don’t want politics at sporting events so you better stand and sing the anthem are just saying they don’t want anything challenging their own politics at the event. The anthem is inherently very political and totally unnecessary- but they will fight to keep it there.

To be fair, we don’t actually know that. If he’s having a full on split from reality, I’m not sure that being at OTAs would’ve been much better outside of having more medical professionals around (though he had already publicly rebuked the Nflpa mental health guy). Things like this happen to completely ordinary people with completely ordinary families and routines.

Odd theory to toss in

Im not saying he could never be good but if he’s starting this year it’s more likely things went horribly wrong. In an ideal world he shows up and plays really well earning him #5.

If Malachi Dupree is a starter for us I’m guessing it more an indictment on the depth chart than compliment to his play.

Weezer/pixies Dessa stp/bush/the cult amanda Shires/Cory brannan and in the fall 2 nights of NIN

I mean, if you aren’t big into the draft and you show up and see one guy angling towards starting day 1 because he looks polished and the other buried on the depth chart... it’s not crazy to wonder. I think sometimes we neglect the gap between casual fan and us as the most plugged in super fans. I could be wrong but thats what it felt like here

Yup. No need to be upset. It’s completely normal, expected and will continue for a decade. No need to rage against it in every thread.

At that point, yea. Though if both are elite then trading less could be nice.... but that’s really nothing as long as you got a franchise qb

Day 1 rosen should look better than allen. We hope come year 2-3 he’s plateaued as a relatively average qb while allen is top tier.

Is this insider to view the whole article? If so, cliffnotes?