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There wasn’t much in the way of specifics. She could be great, or they could be playing nice. I dint think anyone here is saying she’s stupid and just eye candy, but we don’t know much about what she’s bringing to the room yet.

Ive got to ask John.... why do you think that he was a 7th rounder, didn’t make his 1st team, and sat on our practice squad? Just his qb?

Thats about the least weird situation I expected coming from you.

Thats not really essentially what it was if we had to use additional picks to get a few of those guys. Listing guys that cost multiple picks obviously skews it towards us. Ultimately, we will see how Mahomes plays

Fair, and why I tried not to delve any deeper than the current content. Didn’t want to spiral tooooo far.

In a vacuum, sure. In the wider context of society (which is where the meme originated) - I’ve yet to see what the acceptable version of protesting looks like, especially for minorities. The goal line seems to change frequently.

Did he add anything new to the story or just rehash the previous tmz interview/police report content?

Luck doesn’t have to be a dirty word. I know the American dream is purely merit based but we all get good and bad breaks and this team worked hard and caught a few breaks. That’s not an insult to them. They got a little lucky- no shame in that.

I’m not arguing any flag code related points. Simply that it’s silly to pretend the status quo wasn’t already political. Though regardless the teeth in the code- if the argument is players must respect the flag but the person espousing that argument doesn’t follow the same codes of respect - it’s a tiny bit hypocritical, no? Not that I think either should be punished but conversationally we can agree it’s a bit of a jerk move to cite it against someone else but not follow it yourself?

Ding ding ding.... those saying tvey they don’t want politics at sporting events so you better stand and sing the anthem are just saying they don’t want anything challenging their own politics at the event. The anthem is inherently very political and totally unnecessary- but they will fight to keep it there.

To be fair, we don’t actually know that. If he’s having a full on split from reality, I’m not sure that being at OTAs would’ve been much better outside of having more medical professionals around (though he had already publicly rebuked the Nflpa mental health guy). Things like this happen to completely ordinary people with completely ordinary families and routines.

Odd theory to toss in

Im not saying he could never be good but if he’s starting this year it’s more likely things went horribly wrong. In an ideal world he shows up and plays really well earning him #5.

If Malachi Dupree is a starter for us I’m guessing it more an indictment on the depth chart than compliment to his play.

Weezer/pixies Dessa stp/bush/the cult amanda Shires/Cory brannan and in the fall 2 nights of NIN

I mean, if you aren’t big into the draft and you show up and see one guy angling towards starting day 1 because he looks polished and the other buried on the depth chart... it’s not crazy to wonder. I think sometimes we neglect the gap between casual fan and us as the most plugged in super fans. I could be wrong but thats what it felt like here

Yup. No need to be upset. It’s completely normal, expected and will continue for a decade. No need to rage against it in every thread.

At that point, yea. Though if both are elite then trading less could be nice.... but that’s really nothing as long as you got a franchise qb

Day 1 rosen should look better than allen. We hope come year 2-3 he’s plateaued as a relatively average qb while allen is top tier.

Is this insider to view the whole article? If so, cliffnotes?

That would be a HUUUUUGE offense and MAJOR story. That is almost certainly not what happened. Instead of assuming that someone at the top of a complicated profession was either hopelessly incompetent or nefariously duped him - I’m going to stick with the guy that’s had decades of extremely erratic behavior is the person creating this erratic situation

I don’t think he had much desire to retire - and there is likely where part of the problem lies. He’s a mess and football has likely been among his only consistent rocks in life. Not only that, one where his off the wall behavior was remotely acceptable. As he meanders into civilization without purpose, there’s a good chance this gets worse not better.

The structure itself is the leverage. Whether fans like it- this is a business first and the league created a structure that pressures teams to keep up. Throw in the easy playbook of other cities being eager so you better step up... over the next 3 years this will be a relatively constant and likely escalating conversation. Ultimately everyone will pitch in for either a very substantial renovation (not like the recent band aids) or a new stadium. It’ll see tax dollars, pegula bucks and don’t be shocked if at least some minor PSLs (they don’t have to be tens of thousands). Look for a more compete game day experience that cuts back on broken tables and ramps up revenue streams. Look for more changes in things like club sections and vendors inside. They will create more places you can hand them money, they will make it easier to do so and they will make you want to hand more of it over when you do.

The shared vs unshared revenue streams press owners to get more out of their stadiums. Unless you think they are going to drain cash from their other businesses, the next “wells” they are going to drill to finance this team will be city, state, and fans. As kirby notes, it will not just be improving experience but also tying premium amenities to premium seats to improve cash flow. For joe bills fan that just wants to be in the building, new era is fine... but it’s definitely not maximizing the ability to have fans hand you their money.

I’m no saint.... but we all know this guy has a well documented history over the last 15 years. This isn’t some outlier on his resume. This is the normal. Whether he’s a huge schmuck or ill or both (not mutually exclusive and I suspect there’s a little of each column here)... you don’t need to have all the details of the root cause to say his behavior has been consistently unacceptable and needs to change.