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Which cuts to the “what’s his value” question a lot of folks are saying he didn’t deserve the pay cut but we couldn’t get anyone to drop a 7th for his reduced contract with signing bonus already paid?

So let’s say Hughes wants out. He goes on a 4 day twitter bender and drunk dials the pegulas- that gets him out of his contract? i only mentioned the pats because you did

Im sure they’d double check his health but probably not thaaat different than any 30+ year old OL. he pulled that comment practically in concert with that for the right price he’d play. It felt like a child flailing around to try to get out of trouble. That he said different things to different people doesn’t make me think any Avenue was particularly different. Just that he was throwing a tantrum and we had multiple ways to witness it

It seems it was a guy that was throwing a tantrum more than anything, no? Even in the moment it appeared that way

Agreed. I suspect for less than we offered. Which will Be frustrating for everybody but thats the risk when you pick up a guy like this. Odds were it was going to end ugly but if you can get A few good years for cheap...

So you’re cool with it at what age cutoff? And whats the mechanism for blocking the pats signing? Do we make them pinky swear prior to release? I hope we win the super bowl. But my loyalty tends to be towards the team ... not so much the meatheads of the league.

In theory if we release a willing to play player, we would be on the hook for that bonus. Yea, that’s probably what happened...

He has admitted to drug use in his past and has also been acting pretty erratic soooooo I don’t think it’s a crazy thing to wonder

At $4m I’m not sure I’m paying him... but I also think that cuts johns “he’s just a bum” take out at the knees. The guy has potential. i agree fans got overly excited about his play but it wasn’t bad either.

Completely different. You know why? we just let the player say “restructure me or release me” instead.

Why was his old contract his value but not his new contract?

Unfortunately it does indicate that the good guy won’t be treated as well as the troublemakers. Theres almost no chance we wanted boldin and wouldn’t extend him this courtesy. Its not the end of the world but its definitely not ideal

I don’t know that the story is true... but would it be that weird? Maybe pegula called him at some point?

I don’t mind being rid of the dude but hate the message it sends— throw a fit and get what you want, be a professional and we will play hard ball. Itll be interesting to see how the league reacts to him. Does he get a deal for more money?

You should make sure you show up to the future nickname threads.

Itll boil down to whether he enjoys the game or just being a star. They will learn quickly if he actually appreciates having a chance to be on the field.

Sorry, sorry.... of the 15 or so good QBs at any given time, odds are both the last free agent to fall AND the 3rd qb taken will be in that group, leaving just 13 to go around the league

There is nearly no chance both can. We have an ok chance one can.

If only he would have sooner sought out your opinion...

I think he was in time out for awhile, but glad to see he’s back and pleasant as ever

Does he though? I don’t think I see many pitchforks for the guy, do you? To be fair, I’ve seen it get much more attention on other boards. And this is espn calling focus to it. People see it, people care. Will it get the same coverage? Likely not quite as much, but it’ll get a lot....and outside of enthusiastic football fans, I don’t think it registered with that many in the first place. Casual fans or non fans may have seen it but likely didn’t even know the guy even if they did see it. I think in large part the exhaustion over discussing anything even tangentially bama related with you over the last month or two has probably caused many posters here to see the update and keep moving. That and “well, that sucks” doesn’t generate the pages of posts as quick as wondering about and speculation on what happened and could happen next.

The flip side is that they could have gotten one without moving up at all. By not letting the process play out they may have gotten caught in the frenzy. Would rosen plus 3 premium picks be better? Maybe.

Or the story of them getting to 3 at a huge premium only to see their two favorite QBs gone

Yeeesh. Whatever happened that day... hopefully this guy learns some lessons about life here. If he did something bad- never do it again if he got caught up with a made up story — think Long and hard about where he puts himself. obviously I could make stronger statements on either end but not knowing what happened, I’ll leave it at that.

If everyone both stays healthy and plays up to their potential they could be an average group. If each guy plays to about average, and we see some injuries (you know, a normal year) it’s a bad group