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Generally speaking though.... to be a franchise qb, you largely are carrying certain competitive traits that don’t lend themselves to hanging it up early just because. obviously injuries may change that. Likewise he could get hit by a bus tomorrow and really catapult Julio onto the market. But in the grand scheme I think it’s pretty darn safe to say Matt Ryan will have more than a couple years left.

With new league rules, improved medicine etc... 40 should be a pretty basic threshold to at least roughly hit. We will not he seeing franchise guys retire at 35 just cause they made enough money already except for the rarest exceptions. This 45 nonsense will not be for everyone though.

The rapper comment really pushed it over the edge

I mean, I do blame him for not having a smarter rule already. Just because it’s only clumsy in the past doesn’t mean they shouldn’t foresee the problem getting worse

I didn’t say they changed it. I did imply that they need to change it.

And who dictates the rules to the event staff? I have been to games and have worked in (non nfl) events and logistics. There’s no way the nfl hasn’t set very explicit guidelines for super bowl press and security.

I put the close of his window at 39-40 with that. It’s not like I stretched it wildly. He’s still a young guy by an standards.

Saints d was among the best from November on

Flip side- do 2 extra losses make someone like Flacco a bust that never makes it if you put him in the pats division?

I mentioned it in the game thread but it took so much of the best of humanity out of an incredible human moment and the worst was fully on display

How many press passes to grant and what sideline security to hire to enforce policy? they opted for a free for all instead of select access

Matt Ryan has like 6-7 years left. They will likely turn the roster over twice in that window and jones will be gone by the end. they won’t be giving him away though. Right price opens up a whole new window.

To be fair the saints model included cooks and graham being locker room distractions. graham was allegedly 110% checked out after the tag arguments and the receivers were insulting each other on Twitter that aside- I think jones is available at the right price. I think beane would covet him. He would be a fantastic fit. I don’t know if stars will align though.

Oh the internet.... where sports fans argue over a stock email from a team PR person that says essentially “we weren’t good but we plan to get better!” On that token, unless you are a STH, please see yourself out of the super secret letter thread.

Right? Or last year when they had Sammy and bob woods! Can you imagine?!?

Meh. A saints struggle all season was getting out too late. I’d say drew and Sean are as elite a pair as npretty much anyone. No one way to do it, but just like anything it can be a pro or con in your matchup. You do do have to be aware at the line though.

Him and possibly losing gronk. The team likely needs to very much show him a plan to have him stick around. I imagine sometime in the coming week or two there’s a major discussion with Brady.

I didn’t immediately see this years count but his first year with the pats vs last year here- he had 1 more penalty here but more yards there i suspect he’s in more “let them play and don’t let a flag decide the game” moments these days

I generally agree. If our expectation is perfection on dozens of decisions every single play - well, why watch? You’ll never enjoy. This crew did well in not inserting themselves and letting the players play without allowing the game to get away from them either.

Hogan is what he’s always been- a fine enough 3 or 4 good role player but not a focal point. Woods is a step up from that and an excellent complimentary piece that deserves praise as a good every down #2 but needs someone opposite him. Its a shame that Sammy-woods-hogan-clay-McCoy-(harvin)-Goodwin didn’t stay healthier and have a qb

He was big and physical and made major plays. dude earned any praise he sought and a whole lot of money.

To compare it to the saints game- the saints last three drives ended on passes with substantially more contact... there’s allowing players to play and then there’s a massive gap to what happened in NOLA.

Agreed. This board has been trying to say he’s done since he turned 30. It’s been obnoxious for a decade. I’m not positive about what he looks like next year but I’m finally extremely confident that at worst we have 2 years of above average an play to put up with and think we are already in the downslope.

It really should be more limited. It stole any human element from a great human moment (even if you don’t like the pats)

This post game is a train wreck Nfl botched it bad