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Oh GTFOH with that mouths to feed BS. Mike DeGeorge ran very astray of Bills management when he was in the media. He's making $125K as a "senior adviser" to the mayor. There are plenty of opportunities for gainful, light-lifting employment for ex-media beside working at the am sports radio station. Shill wants to be part of the Bills organization but he also wants to be respected for his honest takes on the radio. The two don't mesh and it has made him an extremely dull and unlikeable radio personality.

You don't think his speed and quickness on that play are subpar? Don't get me wrong, this play also illustrates the STRENGTH of his game........getting open 4-5 seconds WAY downfield after the snap..........but it IS also actually an example of him being subpar at the same time. He's probably the slowest "deep threat" in the NFL. Do I think he should have scored a TD? No, but I'd characterize that as zero or negative RAC yards above expectation. We just don't expect him to gain yards after the catch with a defender behind him(regardless of leverage/positioning) so we are not as surprised in hindsight. If that was any other Bills receiver we'd all be lamenting the lack of speed. The audible gasp of disappointment in the stadium when he got tackled so quickly speaks louder than words on the subject.

Added the final verse.........also thought of it myself

Well, it was THAT bad. It illustrated just how little you follow the rest of the league.........which in turn colors your takes on detail. And when it comes to Gabriel Davis the devil is definitely in the details. If you just look at his receptions, yardage and YPC numbers he looks like a very different player than both the eye test AND the less commonly referenced stats like catch %, drop %, rating and INT's when targeted etc... Let alone the more advanced stats and video of his poor technique. That's largely why the debate continues. Some people refuse to consider the things that illustrate his inefficiency because they don't understand what they mean or how that compares to other receivers or simply because they weren't the stats they saw on the back of the football card when they were growing up.

Yeah he runs a loose ship and then throws players under the bus (when they unsurprisingly look under-coached) with his antics on the sideline.........that's how you end up with seasons like the Giants are having now. I've used the Sam Wyche comparison.......except in the 2020's life comes at you faster as an NFL HC so the highs will be shorter. Even if his starting QB had remained healthy he'd be losing all of these games. The QB injuries are actually providing him some cover.

I'd put your mockery of the concept of Jason Peters being a future Hall of Famer a few years ago in the TSW Hall of Fame of dumb takes. I'm not sure you know the difference enough to be a judge of what is and what isn't........but you are identifiable with dumb takes, I'll give you that.

Why you hating on your boy Willie Taggert so hard? He had a better record than Norvell thru the same amount of seasons...........and he got fired with a quickness. You and the mouse in your pocket knew Norvell wouldn't get fired after a 3rd losing season but that's about it. Did you also think he coached Paxton Lynch or did you just not want to stop @LeGOATski because he was on a roll?

What difference does that make? It's a big advantage being able to play 6 seasons of college football like he and Michael Penix have. Having a 4th year sophomore QB start becoming solid saved Norvell's job.

Paxton Lynch didn't play for Mike Norvell. C'mon bro......you are clearly a casual football fan. Go back to your OP. Norvell didn't make Memphis into a successful program........that was Justin Fuente. They were 19-6 in the two years before Norvell arrived. Fuente was hot property and jumped to Virginia Tech. Norvell took over a set-up program and then he went 38-16 while he was there. He then took over Florida State and lost for two years with talent that was good enough to be a lot better. It clicked for Jordan Travis midway thru his 4th season of college football and now he's a refined 6th year passer. Is he "that good"? Yeah, too win the ACC with a very deep roster full of upper class-men, yes he is.

In fairness, we don't know how much accountability he takes with the team. There are countless times he's said "it starts with me" when addressing failures. I go back to the Nathan Peterman debacle when he apologized to the team for making the change at QB. The team then bounced out of maybe the worst 3 game stretch of football in franchise history and upset KC on the road on their way to a 9-7 finish. I don't think self accountability is among the bigger concerns with McD.

True........they should have some good options if they choose to change HC's. I will also add a "probably" to my point about leaving LA. Things can happen. I am critical of such absolutes...........but I do think he will retire and go into broadcasting before he leaves the comforts of LA for a coaching job. There was speculation he might quit coaching entirely after he won the SB.

I wouldn't use the Shanahan comparison with Daboll......first off, to correct you, Wade Phillips replaced Reeves and Shanahan was more than available at the time.........so it's not that they just concluded it was Reeves who should have been canned, not Shanny. When Shanahan eventually replaced Phillips he had just won the SB as the OC of the Niners. He was the hottest commodity in the sport. Daboll is extremely cold product..........he is proving just how bad he can be as a HC in NYG. The floor is the basement with that guy at the helm and it would be highly, and unnecessarily risky for an organization like the Bills to settle for that level of coach when you have a QB in his prime.

Yeah.......he ain't leaving Hollywood for another coaching job.

While it would be ill advised of them to pay attention to social media of any kind.............there are plenty of instances where coaches have been caught using burner accounts and such to POST on social media let alone just lurk..........so you continue to be pretty clueless if you think there is "zero chance" that a coach isn't following social media about the team. That's akin to insisting they don't read the newspaper 20 years ago. Ridiculous take.

College football is full of guys that turn around small schools and get elevated to big school jobs. If Norvell had missed on the QB(Jordan Travis) a couple of years ago he'd be walking the plank right now. Do you follow college football closely?

He's a shill. He invests a lot of time in telling fans that they are wrong to quiet the critics of the organization............this helps preserve his job with the team. But when the organization makes a turn that undermines the sales pitch he has to have a response. Perhaps he thinks anger makes it seem like the organization was pushed into making the decision by critics. Either way........as a shill you gotta' take anything he says with a grain. Under the cover of a little bit of time he can just do what he did with Tremaine Edmunds...........talk him up and shout down critics when he was with the team..........then say the same things as the critics did after he left the team.

He just has bad hands. He "claps"........keeping his hands moving at the catch point.........because his timing at the catch point is a tick off so he can't cushion the point of the ball into a soft landing like most professional WR's. It's who he is and it's the NFL so surely he knows it's weird that he's gotten that far with high school level hands.

It didn't land the first 7 times you've said it, WEO.

I don't see it AT ALL. He's just a solid amateur football coach who recruits well and now he's at a top 10 destination for recruits. And additionally he could demand his contract be torn up and turned into a new 10 year $120M if he reaches the playoff..........and Florida State would do it. At the NFL level he'd have less appeal than a number of current OC's............and none of them is getting anywhere near that money/security. Just a complete non-fit in pro football.

Different era. More violence, more fumbles. Bigger discrepancy between good, middling and bad teams. Always been an important stat but with talent spread more evenly around the league by ever enhanced parity measures, now turnovers make a bigger difference. For reference that Rams/Steelers SB after the 1979 season featured the two teams that turned the ball over THE MOST that season.

You understand that insurance companies are dealing with MILLIONS of individuals and potential outcomes, right? There are like a dozen or less notably valuable veteran contracts on most NFL teams........so the field isn't large enough to provide decisive results. Teams can afford to analyze each individual contract situation very closely. Also, no every player doesn't sleep in a team supplied hyperbaric chamber.

72 grade per PFF 5th highest on the defense..........which is notable for him he's been a tick late all season.

Probably the best game of his career, tbh. He clearly got the message that the intent was to replace him with Douglas..........which would have really put a crimp in his plans to score in unrestricted free agency. Fortunately for Dane, Benford further injured his hamstring(as foreshadowed this week by Shill Capaccio).........so Dane will likely remain in the starting lineup and Rasul will probably move into Benford's role as the press corner.

My track record when against the community is stellar. Sadly, the largest % of the active posting community are people who say they don't watch the rest of the NFL much........but are on the edge of their seat at the trade deadline to see if one of the 50 or so opposing players that they've heard of gets traded to the Bills...........and then complain that they've never heard of Rasul Douglas. Those kinda' people blame the OC whenever anything doesn't work offensively..........then it turns TSW into an echo chamber when struggles persist.........regardless of the real, and usually much more nuanced reasons why.

Well when you run the spread you turn into dink and dunk by nature.........so as they lean more into spread and uptempo don't expect to see longer routes from Kincaid.