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Basically, it's a list of players all the media draftniks thought were going to get drafted much sooner. The real sleepers are the guys like Christian Benford that nobody thought much of(including the teams that take them) but then turn into starting caliber players pretty quickly.

I mean, really. When did pro sports become all about entertainment value? Oh yeah.........that's all it ever was.

There are so many issues with Claypool from his attitude so sloppy game and low football IQ........it's hard to know where to begin. Anyone trusting in him is just being foolish. There is no indication that he's truly changed his entitled mindset and that he won't just quit when adversity arrives like he did the last two seasons. He really needs to start from the bottom and work his way back up as a WR6. In this WR corps, it's not like that. He might not have to do much to get up to WR4 even. If he really wants a long NFL career(which I doubt) then this just seems like an opportunity for him to make more excuses for himself.

Yeah I was referencing people with irrational expectations in general.........like you with this group of injury washouts, has-been's, never-been's and the rookie 8th selected WR behind Samuel and Shakir. Where do you think the Bills WR corps ranks compared to the rest of the league? Is bottom-third good enough for you in the middle of Josh Allen's prime? It shouldn't be.

Nah, c'mon. You gotta' know that it's probably not in there. If they don't have the want-to and have to earn playing time........the NFL game passes a player by thisquick. We see it all the time.......these types of "I was lazy but now I try hard" stories almost exclusively end in failure. Often despite great promise without pads and contact. You gotta' be determined to sustain success in the NFL. If not, the guys who do take it seriously will embarrass you the way they have been embarrassing him the past 2 seasons. The guy took 2 years off when he should have been setting himself up with a $100M payday this offseason. He blew it.

No, Brown and Beasley were established AND currently successful players that were coming off solid seasons. Samuel qualifies as someone who has been consistently solid and should be good. But Mack Hollins had one good outlier season in an otherwise long career as a scrub WR......just like Sherfield and Harty. Claypool fell off a cliff 2 years ago and hasn't been seen since. Much like Sherfield his season ended on a terrible route ran against the Bills that resulted in the Taylor Rapp INT that sealed the Bills win of the AFC East. MVS is inexplicably coming off BY FAR his worst season as a pro and at age 30 most likely washed up and in the freezer. I don't mind rolling the dice to fill out WR6 or WR7 but this would be a shabby f#cking unit to take to camp if you consider yourself a SB contender.

Physically Claypool has always been a beast. Mentally he's been feeble/delusional. I'm expecting the latter to ultimately be who he is with the Bills. Just like I expected the version of Trent Sherfield who dropped a would-be TD pass and took a punt off his butt in his games against Buffalo in 2022 and not the Sherfield whose WR coach in SF "reportedly" told him that he should be starting over Brandon Aiyuk.

The Bills were supposed to be getting Sherfield and Harty's best years too. It was just a given to people like @Orlando Buffalo. I mean........they had never had a QB like Josh Allen. Right?

2022 was Tavon Austin 2023 was Trent Sherfield I remember @NewEra getting pretty hot under the collar about Scott mocking Sherfield's outlook. And really didn't like the Jake Kumerow comparisons. "Poop" I think was the word.

Remember last summer when Allen said his offseason work was centered around "in-breaking routes" and then the season kinda' ended because of an incompletion on an in-breaking route? Oops. Forcing those throws vs. Minnesota in 2022 and KC in the 2023 playoff loss when they had the defense on their heels just looks like impatience and a lack of maturity. The whole back 7 was backpedaling to the end zone and Singletary was left truly wide open for AT LEAST a first down.........if not a touchdown.

The first read on that play shouldn't have been a slow developing TD shot play. Allen made matters worse by staring Shakir down for all 2.85 seconds and then throwing a pass that was closer to being intercepted than caught. Just a ridiculous situation to put themselves in giving the ease they were having at taking what the defense was giving them all day. Stunningly reminiscent of Allen unnecessarily throwing the game away in overtime versus the Vikings in 2022. Same area of field.......2nd and 10......1:18 left........in field goal range........picked off by Patrick Peterson.

What's inexplicable is that after the failed deep throw to Diggs they seemed to have adopted a plan to control the clock and not give KC a chance to answer a score. Then they got to the 2 minute warning and lost their minds.

Yeah there was an edge defender list recently where they had Rousseau ranked VERY highly. I chose not to interject/link it because so many people hate PFF. But PFF loves Rousseau. And the reason is that he gets a lot of what qualifies as pressure while maintaining his responsibility in run defense/contain. What fans see is that he hasn't been finishing enough plays. That's what needs to happen for him to cross over from misunderstood to a star. I suppose one could have said the same thing about Edmunds to some extent........but there was a large group of homers who went out of their way to promote a narrative about Tremaine that wasn't true(that he made it impossible for teams to throw over the middle when, in fact, teams were often throwing right at him).

You don't play to give Tyler Bass a 44 yard field goal attempt there because he's been wildly inconsistent to that point. Just like you don't lean on a defense that has been getting speedboated backward all day(an outrageous 7.7 yards per play versus the 5.3 typically allowed by Buffalo). Those units were weaknesses........and they had a pretty clear path to not needing much, if any, help from them to win the game. You must try to cover for them there.......not let them decide the game for you. Obviously. This has been touched on before, as have most of these stats.........but the average time for an NFL QB to throw this year was 2.78 seconds. Allen released that ball at 2.85 seconds. That ball has to come out sooner than that on an OBVIOUS passing down. It was by no means the extraordinary play by KC's front that it was made out to be.

If you don't like the stat, choose your statistical field and represent your argument. Instead of utterly ridiculous, unsupported "opinions" like "they make that every time" or that it was the smart play call with 2 minutes left on 2nd and 9. 20+ air yards is simply a COMMON point of demarcation. The LOS was the 26 and the ball needed to arrive at least 7-8 yards deep into the end zone. So it was over 30 and closer to 35. Let me refresh your memory:

Oh now Shakir is Jerry Rice in his prime. If the play design was for 2023 Tyreek Hill it was still both a bad situational play call with a low likelihood of completion. Incomplete........you find yourself in 3rd and 9 with a struggling kicker waiting in the wings. Complete.........the Chiefs get the ball back with like 1:50 on the clock knowing that they are playing 4 down football when they'd been gouging the Bills defense all day. Remind me how far they got in just 12 seconds in a similar situation in the 2021 divisional playoff?

1) It's just a statistical fact that 20+ air yard attempts are low completion percentage throws. 2) We've already established that 20+ air yard throws are all low % throws. Nobody completes those in volume half the time, let alone the near 60% league completion average. And every range of passes attempted includes "throw aways and drops". In fact, there are A LOT more of both of those within 20 air yards of the LOS than beyond that. Think sack-avoids, screen dirts etc.. 3) So when Josh attempted 72 throws of 20+ air yards on the season and 70% of them fell incomplete are you claiming that he was "stepped on" on those 70% incompletions? You are the one grossly exaggerating. Never at any point from the play being called thru the ball landing way off target was it anything close to a given that the throw would be successful. You are just up in your emotions about it and can't be rational.

Factually not "techically". I am correct that the Bills completed less than 1/3 of the 20+ air yards throws they attempted in the 2023 season (which is about 10th best in the NFL). Therefore making it a play call with a statistically low probability of succeeding to begin with. Yet I have been told in no uncertain terms by @Alphadawg7 (among others) that they apparently complete that throw 100% of the time....if not for.........pressure??? Because who would EVER have expected to see pressure on an obvious passing down? The arguments that people try to make to excuse the stupidity of that play call are absurd. I understand why though..........because to criticize the play is to also criticize Josh Allen for running it and also dirting the throw in the end zone when he had a safer throw underneath and plenty of time to work with. And ultimately, some fans won't attribute even a fraction of a percent of the blame for the team not winning a game on Allen.

Josh Allen completed 30% of his 20+ air yards throws in the 2023 season.

He is also that dude that might still trade Mack then anyway, too.

At age 28, entering his 8th year in the NFL.......I highly doubt it. These guys get pretty beat up in pro football and men peak physically around 25-26. That's why Marquise Goodwin kept faking injury with the Bills when he was trying to stay in track shape for Olympic trials. The NFL doesn't produce many TV "duds" but one of the biggest was the NFL "veteran combine". They had all these veteran free agents working out and they were putting up hilariously bad track numbers. Felix Jones was a 4.47 at 21 and 4.85 at age 27. https://deadspin.com/the-nfl-veteran-combine-is-the-saddest-1693107996/#:~:text=Former Cowboys running back Felix,You know%2C Rich Eisen time. And that was the end of combine testing vets....

The money lines......which are the projections that matter as much as any "projection" can.........they are NOT on those projections you are making up.

Yeah needing help to separate is why he needs to be in the slot or at least in motion where he can't be jammed. On the boundary.......Jam em' up........ride em' out........game over before it even starts for receivers with T-Rex arms.

It always comes back to cap space

Terrible takes highlighted. The Bills leading returning receiver was 56th in the NFL in yardage in 2023 so noting that the Bills just don't have a "top 10" receiver is minimizing the issue for effect. Like when McDermott's response to having the worst NFL scoring offense in the SB era halfway thru the 2018 season was "would we like to score 50 every game? Sure." There were 5 NFL teams with TWO players in the top 32 in receiving yardage in 2023 and it's been that way for quite a few years now. One of them has continually been the Chiefs. Having two very high quality receiving targets has been a key characteristic of SB contenders for over a decade now. And no, the Bills haven't proven that they have a "wide spread of talented players" by any measure. Four in the top 100 does not "spread larger than most teams". Receiving yardage 2023 Kincaid 56th Samuel 65th Shakir 66th Cook 99th MVS 140th Hollins 161st Knox 206th