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Both the offense and defense had some great moments (Allen’s running, making Mahomes work for completions, and the fumble recovery.) So many penalties though and mental mistakes where we just need to score on a turnover and play with greater awareness on “D.” I had to write this down now because we are so talented, yet very sloppy. Interested to see if we can change that narrative and play like the best team in the AFC when we have it all together. Let’s get this win!

Dumb and unkind thing to write. With that said, if everyone was honest, it seems that the thought and moral standards police changes stances or has rules that only apply to, for, or against specific groups or specific ideologies. Imagine how many players, coaches, and fans would be left (me included) if we exiled everyone based on past comments. Why there would be as many people left as the amount of wins the Texans may get this year: 1 or 2.

Wow! That was an extremely detailed and enjoyable post. Great work! Lesser skilled version of a Scouting Report on the Texans. 1. The Texans suck! 2. There best player is sort of suspended/benched/on the "naughty but no resolution list."

Irv gets a smiley face just because he used the British version of skeptic. I had to look it up just to be sure I was reading correctly. For a brief moment I was wondering why Irv might be referring to himself as a waste treatment tank! 😀

Overall a solid win. Many things to build on, however, my favorite stat from this game was no fumbles by Allen or our running backs! The most encouraging thing is our team can get even sharper in all aspects of the game even as we are winning convincingly. Go Bills!

Great post. Warren Moon is criminally underrated historically and threw a great deep ball. Allen has all the tools and attributes. Continued consistency is what will make him truly elite. He will get there.

Because we don't have anyone on the team named Tribisky.

He was very good that year...8 years ago, 5 or 6 suspensions ago, multiple teams ago, and many chances on the NFL stage to show both the talent and a burning commitment to win for himself and his team. That boat sailed by multiple times ago. As others have said, if he can get QB pressure, lockdown a top TE, make 4 and 1 decisions, or teach someone on the team to play guard well, then sign him.

What number do you think is higher? The number of current Bills players who have played for the Panthers, or the number of suspensions in Josh Gordon's career? If Gordon had one suspension and this was 2012-2013, then yes.

Fantastic

I think many people, including me, can get caught up in the word, "regression" because of the excitement of putting up "fantasy numbers." I don't see any actual regression in Josh's game. I think the team will run a little more for balance. I think the defense may improve and provide shorter fields for the offense to work with. He is going to be a perennial pro bowl/all pro candidate. And, as long as the roster builds depth and mainstays remain on team over time, Bills will be a top 2-top 8 team yearly over the next decade.

All great insights and points made. Thanks! A couple general thoughts as I read comments. 1. Appreciate those who have the personal historical knowledge to give a player in the 60s, 70s, or early 80s their due as I have seen very little or bits and pieces. 2. Talley was unintentionally left off. My bad. He would replace Milano. 3. I found the notable cuts list to be getting so large and demanding that I left off or removed names from the notable list. Great counters and points in replies. 4. Players were not put into a depth chart, per se. I would have Cookie as my FB/3rd down option or #3 overall in his position group. 5. So much depth at all positions in team history, however, I honestly thought about not have a TE on my team at all. Curious to see your team and comments.

With 50+ years of AFL and NFL history and probably 1,500 or so players that have represented the Bills in a game, who would be your all-time 53 man roster? You can find my attempt at building what I consider to be the best overall roster. How many quarterbacks do you keep? Which great player gets left off because of positional depth? Is your team represented throughout the decades or does it represent the time you first became a fan? Curious to hear your process and all-time team! Resource and Criteria 1. I used this database to help me remember and comb through names…https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/buffalo-bills/alltime-roster?letter=B 2. My Criteria for choosing players was based on 4 things The player spent 2 or more years on the roster I picked players I thought would be quality players regardless of era or football rules. These players would fill their role well in any era. Position mattered. I was looking for my best team. I would rather have that 6th CB over say my 8th top RB in Bills history. I tried to look at what the player did as a Buffalo Bill and not based on what they may have done before or after their time with Bills. Offense (26) QB: Allen, Kelly RB: Simpson, Thomas, McCoy, F. Jackson, C. Gilchrist WR: Reed, Diggs, Lofton, Moulds, Evans, Beebe, Tasker TE: Metzelaars, Riemersma OT: Peters, Ballard, Fina, Wolford, Glenn (G/T) OG: Joe Delamielleure, R. Brown, Shaw C. Hull, Wood Special Teams (2) K. Christie P. Moorman ST: Tasker/T. McGhee (both listed on offense or defense unit) Defense (25) DE: Bruce Smith, Paup, Hughes, M. Williams, P. Hansen DT: S. Adams, Smerlas, K. Williams, T. Washington, P. Williams LB: Bennett, Conlan, Fletcher, Milano, Spikes CB/DB: N. Clements, A. Winfield, T. White, “Gilmore Girl”, T. McGhee, Odomes FS/SS: B. Byrd, H. Jones, Poyer, Hyde My Last 10 Cuts Ferguson, MaGuire, Edwards, Schobel, Lynch, K. Davis, Beasley, Dawkins, Richter, M. Patton Notable Defense Cuts: Handful of DB’s (tempted to keep Ko Simpson. He’s worth millions.), Cunningham, Edwards, Haslett, Guidry, Stratton, Patton, MaGuire,Dunaway, Kadish , P. C. Kelsay, Schobel, Jeffcoat Notable Offense Cuts: Joe Ferguson, Frank Reich, Marshawn Lynch, K. Davis, Henry, McGahee, Beasley, Owens (1 year), Watkins, K. McKellar, B. Rolle, C. Dawkins, R. McKenzie, Ritcher, Parker, Bemiller, Grant, Morse Notable ST Cuts: Lindell, Bass, C. Mohr What’s your team all-time Bills team? Let’s Go Buffalo!

I like that he has played 38 games in the NFL and started 18 games, including RT as well as some crossover experience at LT and guard. The Lions are a messy organization, but there starting five o-line is above average as a unit with Decker, Ragnow, and Penei Sewell. I think Brown becomes a starter down the road and will be a solid backup this year. I am not as high on Doyle being a difference-maker this year. He has raw ability and measurables, but being on the PS I think will give him experience. I just personally think a guy like Crosby is super-low risk, he has starting experience, some versatility, and I believe he would contribute more this year than Doyle for a Super Bowl aspirational team. National media has also indicated Crosby as a younger surprising cut with some upside still in his game. Thus, my initial interest as a possible short or long-term OL upgrade.

What are thoughts on Crosby, the RT just cut from Lions? He is 25 and has starting experience. I like our rookie Brown, but I am not too excited having two rookies as backups at OT. I think Crosby would be a nice pickup for the Oline and somebody who could be a valuable reserve.

The answer is probably keeping 7 DE and taking away a DT like Zimmer, Butler, or Phillips. And, then unless their is remarkable improvement, someone like Basham will not dress on game day unless there is a rash of injuries.

This is a class of very good players. I don't see a first ballot player. I think 3-5 will get in at some point, but I don't see one player that screams out as one of the most elite to ever play their position. I believe the most deserving offensive player is Steve Smith. He was his generation's Tyreek Hill as an undersized, speedy, tough, and electric player to watch. DeMarcus Ware was elite/near elite for about 6-7 years at a hybrid DE/LB. I can see him getting in. Wilfork may get in because of Goodell's love affair with the Patriots, and he was an defensive anchor on title teams. Again, I don't think these 3 get in the first year, but these 3 I believe have the strongest case to eventually don the Gold Jacket.

Glad he is signed! Hope Beane and Company can get cheap players around him to keep the Super Bowl window open longer. Great news…still that is a lot of quiche!

I think the Bills would benefit from giving Trey Burton and Malik Hooker a look. Burton played with Trubisky and seems like a good #2 TE that has had some success in the league. I loved Hooker coming out of college. Seems to have a nose for the ball and could really benefit from learning from great vets like Hyde and Poyer, and at 25, maybe a scenery change and a coach like Frazier can get something more out of them. Thoughts? I think they may add depth and some upside fairly cheaply. And, any idea why these guys don’t have a training camp invite?

Warner is a better tackler, pass rusher, and probably a top 7 linebacker in football. Offer Edmunds 5 years, 75 million, with $30 million guaranteed. That is a reasonable offer. Wagner and Warner are better and Edmunds will still be in his 20's after this contract. Fair on both sides.

When the "Coach" draws unnecessary attention to himself and not to the program and development of players, then you have a coaching issue. Add the fact that it is one of the most dynamic, talented, and outwardly arrogant personalities in recent NFL history, and you have a Circus Coach. Add in a Circus Coach that has never been guilty of talking too little and craves media attention, and you have a Circus Show in Neon Lights where the ringmaster believes he is The Show. It will be fun to follow this circus! I really think Coach Deion Sanders should "tackle" this issue.

I will go 12-5. I think the Bills will rest or reduce workloads unless the best record in AFC is in play for the final game. I'd rather have a lower record and be healthy, and starting to peak at the end of the season. I also would like to see a few more dominating defensive performances. Bills, Chiefs, Ravens, Browns, and Titans make for a tough but doable playoff run.

PFF's rankings are ridiculous. Josh Allen should not be rated any lower than the 7th best player. Here are the only 6 players who may have a case for being better right now than Allen 1. Rodgers (reigning MVP) 2. Donald (best Def Player) 3. Mahomes (toss-up w/Allen) 4. Tim Tebow (Chuck Norris status) 5. Ko Simpson (worth millions) 6A Q. Nelson (the one fan that obsesses over a dominant guard) 6B Brady (NE and Tampa fans) 7. Josh Allen

I hope he can abide by protocol guidelines while fighting for his stance and view. I hope that fight is done in a way that does not overshadow his responsibility to the Bills' success as well as feel he is being heard by the league. With that said, he may not be able to have both. If so, let's keep the pulse on a potential younger and cheaper slot receiver as well as any possible savings on that #2 or depth corner.

I would ask Travis Henry how many of his children he could name.