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Meanwhile, Mike Mayock has us taking 2 of his top 11 players (Allen and Edmunds). If you leave a draft with two top 11 players, with picks 12 and 22 to start, you win. Also, Edmunds is a top 4 talent on many people's board. Getting him at 16 was a steal, as was Phillips in the 3rd. It's like we didn't need those 2nd rounders that we "overpaid" for. I've been a HUGE critic of drafting Allen. By every metric he will be a top tier backup at best. Hopefully those metrics are wrong, or AJ goes nuts this year, keeps Allen on the bench and we trade Allen in a year or 2 for a 1st and 2nd. Overall, I'd give us an A. Esp. when you consider the UDFA haul we pulled in.

hey, there is another smallish school in PA that produced a great NFL Player. Kutztown State's Andre Reed!

owner meddling w/ the process here

While Gil Brant's comment was totally inappropriate and racist, so was your comment that all old white men are racist. "I know it's convenient to pile on old white dudes as being racist- it's like calling water wet" BTW, the Giants are winning the draft, IMO. got the best RB, best OG, a great DL, and now just got their "next" QB in Kyle L.

Should the Bills "double up" at QB and draft Falk, Kyle L, or White if one is still available in the 5th?

Still good WR's available: St. Brown, Cobbs, Hamiliton, Atteman. We'll shore up the OL a bit then grab a RB and WR. Still win games with good lines. Without time to throw, a good WR is wrothless.

whomever we draft the board will crash. It's draft day!!!! As long as we don't get Allen. wow. only sacked once, and playing against unblocked Bosa. Makes you think the 5INt's were a survival mode thing almost. I think Peterman will be much better this year.

this appears to be as unrealistic as the no QB mock. I'd be thrilled if we go him.

OG/C Ragnow. Tackle still needs help. Chark can deal with the McCarron QB issue. bye. thanks for coming!

just for fun. do it.

Ok, clearly this will not happen. But, for fun, submit your "no QB" draft from Fanspeak. Used "classic" difficulty, although I'm having "difficulty" telling the difference between the two. Here, we shore up the LB and WR corp, , an OL starter, add quality depth at CB, DL, RB 1: R1P12 LB TREMAINE EDMUNDS VIRGINIA TECH 2: R1P22 LB RASHAAN EVANS ALABAMA 3: R2P21 WR D.J. CHARK LSU 4: R2P24 C FRANK RAGNOW ARKANSAS 5: R3P1 WR ANTHONY MILLER MEMPHIS 6: R3P32 EDGE DUKE EJIOFOR WAKE FOREST 7: R4P21 RB JAYLEN SAMUELS NORTH CAROLINA STATE 8: R5P29 CB AVONTE MADDOX PITTSBURGH 9: R6P13 DL BREELAND SPEAKS MISSISSIPPI

Allen's ceiling is Ryan Mallett or Jake Locker. The ceiling for Mayfield, Darnold or Rosen are along the lines of Brees or Big Ben, or Rodgers, IMO.

I don't get how they can criticize Gettleman for (1) not drafting a QB; and (2) bypassing other teams offers and drafting Barkley. The Giants are clearly trying to extend Eli's window. If they draft a QB, they need to trade Eli. And they have no running game. Barkley is a once every 5 year RB. If they had Elliott, they would be much better.

I would like the Packers to be playing so well that Rodgers just chucks the ball wherever he wants, and hopefully it ends up in the hands of White, Hyde, Davis or Poyer. Once each. That gives us a chance of winning.

These QB's better be gone: Rosen, Mayfield, Darnold, Jackson, Kyle L.; Falk and Rudolph. And Allen better be a 3rd round pick.

I will not watch any more of the draft if we trade up for Allen, or even draft him at 12. Allen is absolutely terrible. It's pure hubris by any FO/Coaching staff that drafts him that they can magically fix him. All the "excuses" about his WR's, etc. have been debunked. https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/4/24/17271686/josh-allen-nfl-draft-2018-stats-analysis-comparisons Mason Rudolph is a better pick (still yuck, but better).

OP. Thanks for sharing. Ignore the ppl bashing you. They don't have to read the thread if they don't want. I'm open to any rumors this time of year. It's the whole pre-draft experience for fans.

Here is mine. Only L. Jackson of the "top" QB's was available at 12. I passed on him in favor of the next Cam Chancellor. Also got a more day 1 ready QB in Kyle Lauletta. Shored up the OL and hopefully got 2 WR's that solve our problem at that position. 1: R1P12 S DERWIN JAMES FLORIDA STATE 2: R1P22 LB RASHAAN EVANS ALABAMA 3: R2P21 WR D.J. CHARK LSU 4: R2P24 QB KYLE LAULETTA RICHMOND 5: R3P1 OT ORLANDO BROWN OKLAHOMA 6: R3P32 EDGE DUKE EJIOFOR WAKE FOREST 7: R4P21 RB KALEN BALLAGE ARIZONA STATE 8: R5P29 C BRADLEY BOZEMAN ALABAMA 9: R6P13 WR ALLEN LAZARD IOWA STATE

Darnold would be by third, (after Mayfield and Rosen) but your logic is likely spot-on. And I'd be fine with Darnold. didn't this happen to Jim Kelly also??

perhaps AJ has more arm strength than people say he does. Or perhaps Brady's arm strength increased after he was drafted.

I'd say 2 in addition to the Thu Night game. 1 Sunday and 1 Monday late in year. The assumption is that we will have a top rookie QB--or McCarron will be the next Jimmy G with rookie on bench-- and NFL will want to show him on primetime. I'd say against CLE or NYJ to have QB v. QB.

I think Hall of Fame with great production on the Bills (he was the offense that broke the streak) warrants WOF. In fact, last season alone may warrant it already.

Your right. And exhibit A is Brady! He throws in Boston and Buffalo wind just fine.

both please! Or one and Chark. Not sure how we fill QB, LB, and OL in my scenario. Whatever. I'm sure we will get a WR, I'd like one of those 3. A lot of mid-round WR talent in this draft.

I'd be totally upset. Here is why. 1. We traded up. We are basically throwing AJ to the wolves with no team around him. And I'm not sure how Allen learns in that situation. 2. If we get him at 12, I won't be happy, but we still have all our picks and can build around AJ McCarron for the next 2 years while Allen learns.