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Thanks! I think we either end up with a QB, or one of these guys with one of our 1st round picks. Question: are either Smith or Edmunds guys who can cover and/or rush the QB. Or more "inside" types?

OP: thanks for the in-depth analysis. Here is the cliff note version: (1) we should get QB this year; (2) but if we can't (teams won't trade with us, QB run before our pick) who should we get next year?

I think we are both having fun w/ this Either way, I love that the Dolphins will either be overpaying for Landry, or not get much in return. (unless Cleveland gives them a 2nd).

WHAT. But I can get him on Fanspeak in the 3rd I'd take him in the 2nd.

any WR.

Would love to get St. Brown and Chark somehow!!

I like Ragnow. Great later round pick at C/G. No need to spend a 1st on that because we have Groy....as many lazy mock-drafters have us doing, IMO.

if we trade up, I will not be a naysayer. I will have confidence in this FO. Rosen or Mayfield. I think both will be the best in this class. I think L. Jackson also has a chance to be great, and if we have to stay at 21, I'd want him there. if TT is our starter, we need to draft Freeman from Oregon as RB. I don't think Shady can carry the O for another year! (I'd draft Freeman anyway). I'd think we have to make a SB also with that package of picks.

good point. I hear his WR's dropped quite a few balls (as did Jackson's, apparently). Whatever we do, I want that guy to be great. My fav QB is Mayfield, but whoever we draft I'll trust that this FO knows its stuff.

cool, thanks. !

would love a guy like this late in the draft.

really? age issue? I thought it was 2 years of college ball? Or is it 3. I can't remember!!!!

I think he needs about 2 years playing behind someone. I agree, there is no way he will improve by being thrown onto the field. Wentz had a 64.1 college completion percentage v. Allen's 56.2.

Arm is like Rodgers. Nothing else really his. He has an abysmal accuracy and he played at Wyoming. I'd be questionable about him if he played in a Power 5 conference. His inability to "get it together" facing lesser competition is concerning.

hpeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery bollic! Didn't know that targets were not recorded until 1992. (but there could have been someone, somewhere, worse prior!) At any rate, I think Zay will be great next year. Esp. if we have a better QB--which is questionable at this point.

HY-PER-BOLIC! That's from October. And, not worst ever, but since 1992. And how many targets were thrown to him?

great point about the options. I did not know/or totally forgot that!

exactly. Or, you know, I'd at least want to see what was going on. Perhaps he just loves football and wants to be there. I don't see him as a Jerry Jones type.

now that is super hyperbolic

I don't think so at all. or cry us a river Landry. Your dirty hit on Williams was not a good deal for him. You'd be tremendously overpaid for a slot WR.

I don't think Jackson would be a reach at all. I think Rudolph would. I'd prefer Mike White or Luke Falk over Rudolph, and none of them in the 1st.

WOW. This would be amazing. Did you use Fanspeak? I find them to be fun, but how on earth does Vea land at 22? I'd perfer Mike White over Rudolph, but taking Rudolph in the 2nd seems correct. Price in the 3rd is completely insane, but hey, take it if its there. I think that's where we take a center who can play guard and end up with Ragnow or Bozeman. Kiser is a guy I like, would be great depth in the 5th. Know nothing about OT Harrison. that's a good point. I would keep that pick, and grab another LB/pass rusher with Vea (in this guys scenario where Vea makes it to us). Then grab a RB like Freeman.

hopefully no Drew Brees. Brees always wanted to win for the Bills!!!

Wouldn't mind him in the 2nd round at all. I think he's a better prospect than Rudolph, IMO. My ideal draft/QB scenario: 1. Veteran (Cousins, Bradford, Keenum). 2. Draft DL/pass rusher at 21, 22. Instantly have a top D with a pass rush and our secondary. 3. Draft QB in second, trading up if necessary to grab Luke Falk, Mike White, etc. Jump to top of second if L. Jackson is somehow still there.

I agree. QB (and even pass rush) should be addressed prior to OL. If we address the QB and pass rush, we have a more potent offense and a top 5 defense. Imagine a pass rush + our secondary. Scary. That's why I think a lower ranked center (and we have Groy, so we don't have the "emergency" some national pundits think) such as Ragnow, Clapp, Queesnburry (esp. if we get Rosen), Clapp, and Bozeman will be the pick.