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For me, this isn’t a huge deal at this point. It is voluntary. It does probably indicate that the 2 sides aren’t as close as we have been led to believe. I hope that they get it done soon. The least thing that I want is Tua falling off and Miami escaping without his contract being an anchor.

I was thinking more like $80 million per year over the next 10 years all fully guaranteed. I mean, you have to pay a premium for the most accurate QB in the league.

No argument at all on the Gross. Impressed by the Mike Williams call-out. I would not have picked that up since his contribution was 142 yds in 2014. I do sense a bit of a "moving bar" since your initial metric was >1000 yd season, which neither Williams or Matthews had. If we're now looking at 900 yd seasons, a couple of guys we have now came close to that, which along with the Mike Williams ROI, may just illustrate the point that "past performance no guarantee of future results" (Claypool etc) I don't think you addressed my question though: Would you like to make an argument that the 2018 WR corps was (at least on paper) better than what we have now?

Miami should just pay him $58M per and be done with it

Sure! Throw in a pair of medieval running shoes that ravage women in their sleep! 😆

Disagree.

All joking aside, he should absolutely hold out. History of concussions, and coming off a great season, on a 1 year deal. Herbert and Burrow got theirs, what gives?

How dare you! 60 million a year guaranteed thank you very much

The article explains why it's meaningful:

The cervical spine is no joke. Cervical spine injuries are super serious and can cause all sorts of issues all over the body. The amount we don't know about the human brain and nervous system is insane. For reference, we have been using anesthesia for nearly 200 years and we just figured out how/why it works in the last 5-10.

What did you think of McConney and Tarasof’s testimony?

Let's do an experiment. Take Isabella Butker and some no name chick. Let them use what Harrison calls their innate ability to want children. Let's give them two husbands and let them stay at home with 3 children. Isabella gets: Harrison Lady # 2 gets an auto mechanic husband working 6 days a week, making $50k a year, no health insurance, section 8/850 square foot apartment, and an EBT card. Which one cracks first? 😆🤣😂 Lesson... When preached the virtues of motherhood, who chucks that Butker BS out the window and begs for the $250,000 Catholic College education to be put to good use in the workplace! 😏 AND they didn't review the tone deaf commencement speech FIRST!! That's just as bad as Reebok naming its new women's running shoe: "The Incubus" 😆 You can't make this shi... up! From 1997: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-02-20-fi-30513-story.html

Hamlin has more starts than both combined, and while he didn't do anything impressive, he wasn't the liability people claim him to be. Coming off a near death, and a circus offseason, i didn't expect him to contribute last season. But a year removed? I didn't see much from Lewis to elevate him, and I don't get very excited about a depth player who is on his 6th NFL team.

So you're saying there's a chance?

When the Bills traded for Kelvin Benjamin during the 2017 season he was producing almost identically to the 2016 season. A 900-1,000 yard pace. Which made him a back end WR1 producer in the NFL at that time. The narrative was that the change of scenery had slowed him and Beane was confident he would be back to his prior excellence. 2014 Mike Williams ( 27 and just one injury plagued season removed from 996 yards and 9 TD's in Tampa). 2017 Jordan Matthews (coming off 1800 receiving yards in the prior 2 seasons). Benjamin, Williams and Matthews career highs were 1,008, 996 and 997 respectively..........so we aren't splitting hairs at 900. You see how soon we forget that 900 yard seasons are a pretty pedestrian achievement? And yet in an era when there has never been more WR talent in the league the Bills now don't even have a player with even ONE of them. It's gross.

I mean, what Dolphins activities have there been as yet? At this point, it's normally a couple weeks of Phase I OTAs, and rookie minicamp (veterans not invited) Some Holdout Not only that, but "Phase I OTAs" are workouts with S&C coaches and (I think) classroom work Though I think QBs are allowed to throw to receivers now after teams complained the Chiefs were doing an end-around by holding "virtual phase I OTAs" while Mahomes threw to his receivers outside the facilities.

Well, I guess they will not invite him again: "“As a founding institution and sponsor of Benedictine College, the sisters of Mount St. Scholastica find it necessary to respond to the controversial remarks of Harrison Butker as commencement speaker,” the statement on their website said. “The sisters of Mount St. Scholastica do not believe that Harrison Butker’s comments in his 2024 Benedictine College commencement address represent the Catholic, Benedictine, liberal arts college that our founders envisioned and in which we have been so invested.”

KC calls Beane and offers, even up, Butker for Bass. Does BBB make the trade?

That is so 1950. We'll get em shoes.

I agree with you that there were better cap (and talent-building) strategies. I think it was clear that Diggs relationship with Allen was bad, and had been bad for some time - certainly by the end of the 2022 season. But usually, when guys want to win and recognize talent, they suck it up and figure out how to work together professionally. I don't know - it may have been a combination of things - declining abilities by objective metrics like GPS tracking of speed and separation; crappy relationship with the QB which didn't allow a "mind meld" that could compensate; organizational headaches - all leading to a decision to sell as high as they could and eat up the cap hit this season, while coping with a huge talent deficit at WR. I think I agree with your fundamental point, but suggest looking at it as "QB plus handful of pricey guys". Usually that's the QB, a DB, an OT, a DLman, and a receiver. Taking a peak around the league, on the Ravens we see 6 players who are nomming up >5% of the cap: Jackson, CB, FS, LT, TE, ILB, with DE Madubuike just below it at 4.31%. Chiefs: Mahomes, G, RT, TE, SS w DE Omenihu just behind them at 4.3%. Dallas: Prescott, DE Lawrence, WR, G, CB with Michael Gallup (5.4% of the cap) on the books as a post-June 1 cut and T just behind at 4.3%. Rams: Stafford, Cooper Kupp, DT Aaron Donald coming off the books post June 1, RT and G with a 2nd G just under at 4.96%. So the Bills, starting the off-season with Allen, Diggs (was about 10%, now 12% dead), Tre White (6.4%), and Von Miller over 5% then with Matt Milano 4.87% and Dion Dawkins 4.5%, didn't have an unusual cap allocation. The problem really wasn't the cap allocation, it was ROI from 3 of the 6 players at the top of the allocation. Diggs at the end of 2023 and in the 2022 and 2023 playoffs, did not provide good ROI. Tre, missing 2 of the last 3 seasons due to injury, ditto. Von Miller, missing effectively half of 2 seasons and playing at a "JAG" level the rest of last season, ditto ditto. Tre' is still young enough by CB standards to have been able to contribute barring repeat injury. Diggs, it wasn't unreasonable to expect good ROI through at least this next season - he signed a 4 year extension at age 28, Miller was the big swing-and-miss by Beane. When you look at the top-paid Edge players, Miller's age at signing sticks out - at least 3 years older than the next closest guy. Beane took a risk offering him that long of a contract with that much guaranteed, and it didn't pay off. Edit: to point out that Miller is also the only FA signing in the Bills top-cap collection. Everyone else was either developed here, or acquired by trade on a moderate contract (Diggs) and extended based on performance on the Bills team.

We'll see if yours and Billsy's wrangling survives. It's looking like it might not even survive the kangaroo / banana court. It certainly won't an appeal. If you think there's a chance, your not following along.

They are preprogrammed. I laugh every time these guys bring up an NDA and you shoot them down.

We won our division........ we still would have made the play offs. This would not have affected us in any capacity.

I read somewhere that the team is trying to make the contract incentive heavy. Not a ton of guaranteed money. If Tua stays healthy and plays he’ll get paid if not the team is off the hook. Obviously Tua’s agent doesn’t want that…

So, we are doing this again, not totally exciting to be honest…,