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Scoring defense is not the only thing that matters. Lack of creating turnovers, giving up long time consuming drives robbing the offense of possessions, giving up non scoring drives that flip the field position and the point in a game that a defense allows scoring drives can matter just as much. By any rational assessment the Bills are a bottom 10 D. If we can't agree on this then we can't agree on anything.

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I don't think you need to get rid of it entirely. What they should do is make Thursday nights for teams coming off a Bye or something. I know that's not the most conducive thing to schedules and everything, but maybe it's time to reevaluate how the schedules are composed and worry more about player safety rather than be so opponent specific. There are a lot of smart people working in the NFL. I am sure with enough meeting time, they could come up with something that would take less of a toll on the body and still allow them to play on Thursday night most weeks. Maybe the first few weeks there aren't any, but when Bye weeks start, so do Thursday night games or something. I mean, the easiest way to do it is to make sure every team gets 2 Bye weeks and work it in from there. Each team would have an abbreviated Bye to play on Thursday Night and then a full Bye later on or something like that. I know they don't want to do that, but giving teams extra rest during the season can only help the product and player safety.

Such a fraud.

The Bills need something to happen NOW! Sign Brandon Cooks or ask Amari Cooper to unretire...something to help that offense. Maybe Joe Brady should grow a brain or morph into Brian Daboll?

This is not hard to figure out. Receivers were blanketed so his only choice was to scramble and try to buy time for them to get free from their defender. The choice was try to buy time and make a play, or throw it away. Practically speaking, the choice was between punting on 4th and 7 and 4th and 17. Nothing rookie about it. Bingo. How do others not see this?

But yet for years we watched Josh McDaniels and Brady turn grocery baggers into all pros.....

Honestly, if you really feel the division is out of reach (I do at this point) I'm pushing for the Pats over the Bengals. Keep them pushed down and out of the hunt. Likewise, I'm pushing for the Cards over the Jags to keep the Jags down lower.

It’s a podcast. Go to where you can find those on your phone, look up Locked On Bills and then you’ll see all the recent shows. Bills Squad is an hour long one Joe Marino has twice per week with Jeremy White and Jerry Ostroski.

Thanks for checking in. Yes, it was a bit of an exaggeration. Similar in nature to your “inflation is extraordinary” earlier this week, with the exception that you were not just exaggerating but being disingenuous. Idiotic perhaps. Either way, don’t forget to smash the like button! respectfully, AM

Don't be jealous, but a lot of us have been chatting online with Patriots fans all day...🤔

Wait…weren’t you the guy that was legit scared his son was going to be turned gay/trans by his college? How is that going? Any interesting men coming home for Thanksgiving?

Our disagreement was really his ceiling as a player vs his ceiling as a Buffalo Bill under a Joe Brady offense. Whatever you think his ceiling is here with Brady, I think it is higher if he was on another team outside Brady’s offense. He was on a 1000 yard pace last year had he not missed 2 1/2 games (game he left early getting hurt, game he missed while hurt, and week 18 when we sat out top players) he would have been a 1000+ yard receiver. And that’s on an offense that under utilizes him and forces way too many throws to him at or near the LOS. If he was on a team playing next to a legit WR1 in a passing offense, like say the Rams next to Nacua, I think it’s quite plausible he could add another couple hundred yards to his production. Especially if he’s getting more than just bubble screens thrown to him half the time. Or put him on a team that knows how to maximize his talents like KC and he would feast. So where we disagree is that his production has peaked here overall based on his abilities. Where I do agree is that his production ceiling here under Joe Brady is what we are seeing, especially with us missing a true WR1 and any downfield threat. But he’s better than what we get out of him.

My 1986 Mets agree and nod with approval

lol… one of the inaugural Youtube videos

They were 1 elite pass rusher from getting by KC. That wasn’t a long play. That was meant to instantly put them over the top. He was just coming off getting the Rams over the top. If healthy, they would have had 2 to 3 years to win one (or more). You had prime Josh and were 13 seconds away from a Super Bowl. That wasn’t time to worry about 3 years from now. It didn’t work but I absolutely, 100% supported it at the time and still do. On a side note, I’d love to have the conversation over some drinks. 🤣🤣 I’ve gotten into some good bourbons over the last few years. Let’s do it!! TBD Christmas party!!

Russia's wish list, prepared by the US...all makes sense. Is there actually anyone that you can believe. A politician, a bureaucrat, a reporter, a publisher.

This topic hits close to home after this week. This did not get enough attention in my opinion. What have we seen to think the Bills will, or could be the outlier?

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