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He's better than the massive harsh criticism that he gets. Several games this year when things went poorly in the first half, he had absolutely no answers when all we needed was 1 or 2 scoring drives in the second half. In several games similar to this, we score 5 straight touchdowns after struggling mightily. The WR room sucks, and that's on Beane. But even with that KC.Baltimore and Cincy have been picking late for several years now, and look where they are with great QB's. We're 10-4.

You didn't think they'd actually show good character did you? These are people who root for a cheating team. If you're a legit MVP candidate and you didn't win it, you lost it. What were his 2nd half stats? Or he's gonna get fined. Untrue. The win is always first. Diggs doing nothing in a New England win is very small consolation.

To the original post there never should be a debate. Allen is multiple tiers ahead of Maye. I see 2 of about 8 pat fans that flooded here last week (though apparently one missed the game so going off boxscore) after the loss. Wonder if other folks would join if pats didn’t choke a 21-0 lead? Other fans banter or opinion should be welcomed but this just confirms it was nonsense trolling and gets rid of them next time please. They added zero context and spewed nonsense and of course not here to simply own it. All this and they should still be feeling good. Pats season didn’t end yesterday. They are still prime shape to win division. They choked at home to wrap up the division coming off bye week so I get the frustration. When teams meat again I’m just going to laugh react to every post they make. If rematch this year and bills win you know they will be gone, if lose they all will be here. Taking this L really bad

It would have been nauseating. Thank you Bills for yesterday, especially for us Bills fans who live in New England, Mack Hollins gets it.

Amputation won't work. I'll clean my screen and type with my tongue.

Dual possession always goes to the receiver. Even if it were the case that the pats got the ball, the receiver was ran into before the ball got there and pass interference was rightly called on the play. We've seen that type of PI call a million times. Bills ball either way.

Chris Jones is right and reporters are wrong. I just found it in a new amendment to the NFL bylaws - section 117(8)(d) which reads: A team eliminated from playoff contention will not be permitted to progress to the wildcard round unless all of the following circumstances apply: (i) they wear red; (ii) they have appeared at least 100,000 times in prime time during the previous five seasons; (iii) their star player is dating a pop star; and (iv) their Head Coach has a moustache.

Even though I was throwing a toddler tantrum in the first half, I felt good about one thing the pats were throwing trick plays in the first half. To me, that’s a sign you either are overconfident or think you need to in order to win. I thought that was the only good omen for Buffalo in the first half

Einstein apparently wants to wear it on his face

Having worn a jockstrap in years past, I’d argue it’s very easy to hold one -even one on a Super human.

The Meathead was stifled?😳

I think since trading Myers the Raiders are probably the worst. And Tennessee once Ridley went down are right there with them. Cleveland is hard to categorise. I think they suck aside from Jeudy and his production is down this year, but they have started three or four different Quarterbacks (none of them good). So maybe that is currently the bottom three. I think the rest of those teams have either a better version of the solid but unspectacular group we have (Pats) or one young player who very clearly would be the number 1 on all those teams (Harrison, Nabers, McMillan). So maybe right now I'd put the Bills WR group 29th. Maybe. I asked co-pilot to rank NFL teams based by WR production in 2025 and (I haven't verified) but it has us 28th with 1,593 yards.

The Ravens game is meaningless because the Pats would have a tie breaker on division win/loss if both teams won out minus that game. Pats need to lose to either Miami or Jets for us to win division. Losing to Ravens I guess at most would allow us to lose another game. Personally I would rather the Pats beat the Ravens and keep them out of the playoffs too. Miami is the key game assuming the Bills win out.

Love Josh but I wouldn't want to hold his jockstrap either.

Why, yes I do.

Josh Allen currently has 25 TD passes and 12 TD runs. He seems like a lock to extend his record of 40+ TDs in a season.

Is it forcing the scheme on the player or adapting the scheme to the players strength. It appears the former and hence not seeing the results.

Agreed. He’s morphed from a Bills fan to Josh Allen’s mother. Maye is going to be a special player in this league. He’s not Josh Allen and I don’t know of many people (if any) that said Maye was better than Allen.

What is the "real reckless" talk? Bc I didn't see anyone saying Drake Maye is better than Josh Allen. I don't think there's any question as to who the better QB is right now. But it's also not a fair comparison. Not only is Josh more physically gifted (and quite possibly the single most physically gifted QB of all time), Drake Maye is in only his second year. Josh Allen wasn't the guy we know now in Year 2. And Drake Maye in Year 2 is a better QB than Josh Allen was in Year 2. Does that mean he'll be better than Josh is in Year 8 when he's in Year 8? No. But we don't know for aure that he won't be either. Either way, this reads like cringe homer hyperbole. Stuff you yell out when you're leaving the stadium inebriated and yelling "hey-ay ay ay!". Like the Bills fans that say Lamar "sucks" or "can't hold Josh's jockstrap". The truth (like with Lamar) is that Josh may be better, but Drake Maye is still a VERY good Quarterback. If he couldn't "hold his jock" as you put it, we wouldn't have lost to them earlier in the year. We wouldn't have had to come from behind today. The Pats wouldn't be 11-3 and he wouldn't be considered an MVP candidate. Not being the #1 QB in Football doesn't mean you can't still be very, very good. And Maye is.

Who's going to be available who's an upgrade during the off season? Every QB has had stinkers this season. I think defensive plays and schemes have improved, probably because of the improvement in offensive play. One is boosting the other.

Wallowing in your own misery is enjoyable for some

I think the issue is that the WR situation should be better or there should be 1-2 more difference makers on defense. But to act like this team is the 2007 Cavs being carried by one superstar player is insanely dramatic.

I will say there are plenty of other comparable WR rooms, Raiders, Titans, Panthers, New England, Browns, Giants, Cardinals. most of those teams stink, but they also don’t have solid QB play. all that being said, I am disappointed in the creativity on offense on most plays, but am impressed by the teams ability to identify what it does well and then execute it better than their opponent can stop it. In a simulator I’m curious what an Andy Reid or Ben Johnson would do with this offense and how it would be different.

The scouts aren't the issue. The scouts are why the Bills are one of the best day 3 drafting teams in football. That is the scouts day. The problem is the execs - Beane, Gaine, Gray, Bazirgan. Generally they are the guys who are involved in the decisions on the day 1 and 2 picks.