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Then a crowd of young boys, they're foolin' around in the corner Drunk and dressed in their best brown baggies and platform soles They don't give a damn about any trumpet playin' band It ain't what they call rock and roll And the Sultans, yeah, the Sultans, they play Creole Creole

I’ve only watched college highlights, so of course there was none of that. I hadn’t thought about the cleats, but that could have been an issue. It reminded me of Chop Robinson getting his weight too far in front of him and Dawkins (for some reason unbeknownst to me) got penalized for taking advantage of it by simply pushing him to the ground. I like his motor, but they’ll have to coach that out of him.

That feels like a bit of revisionist history, tbh. Through the first three games of the season they looked like world beaters without Amari Cooper. Then the Ravens and Texans happened, but what nobody talks about in those two games are A) Shakir got hurt and B) the offensive line played like trash and not because nobody was getting open, but because they were straight missing assignments and allowing free rushers. so yeah, they let go of MVS and traded for Cooper and they played better on offense…pretty much looked like the first three weeks. But Cooper didn’t really do much, missed some games and was getting out snapped by Mack Hollins. i think it is hilarious that the first argument brought up when saying we need a receiver are the numbers our receivers put up. But those same people are all too quick to say that Coopers contributions were about more than numbers…he was so good he pulled coverage from the bench. cooper fits your narrative, I get it. But they scored 30 in multiple games he didn’t play in. they didn’t score 30 in any games Shakir didn’t play the whole game. And I’d have to check because I am going off memory, but they scored 30+ in almost every one he finished.

lol he’s making the team he’s probably the 2nd/3rd best WR on the roster

If it smells like cologne Leave it alone If it smells like fish Oh what a dish !!

India has significantly lower labor costs (70%) than China. It's a logical place to move your manufacturing production if I was a CEO.

Yep 3rd string slot receiver for $4M. And the two guys on the boundary would be better fits inside. 😂

This is false. Moore definitely isn’t fighting for the 5th WR spot. He will be starting. Palmer, Shakir, and Moore are the 3 best receivers on the team. Shakir will always be number 1 as far as Josh is concerned but Moore or Palmer could be 2nd or 3rd. They both have already proved they can play in the league. The Bills didn’t bring him in to be the 5th receiver. Samuel also will be in the top 4 if he plays like he did the last third of the season from last year and the fact he has already proven he can play in the league. Right now Keon is going to have to be the one to prove himself as he had a major drop off 2nd half of last season and Beane and McDermott were not happy with him. Can he play well enough to jump any of these other guys? Maybe but he is in the 5th position right now, I don’t care if they took him as their top pick last year. He has to prove a lot more.

Man Wade Phillips had an eye for talent, but jeez just put the head sets on, so frustrating🙄

With multiple tumbles and misfooting I can’t help but wonder if he had the wrong cleats for whatever the turf or conditions were. Was that a trend in real game action throughout his college career?

Apple's moving iphone production to India. Google already moved pixel out of China. The exemptions were to ease the market and will be on the last few years of products made in China. The ball's in motion. It will be a three to five year transition before India mostly replaces China in our supply chain and manufacturing partner.

Probably because he only played 3 years with the Bills.

Why exempt tariffs on smart phones and computer imports from China then?

It’s NOT Cleveland 6 - Bills 3, I can tell you that. but I enjoyed the blowout over the Fish in the last game of the season, where the Fish needed it for the playoffs.

Other than the whole part of shifting our dependency on China for manufacturing to a partnership with India.

Doesn't matter if he can't contribute on special teams.

Bryce Paup should be on the list.

So he caught 60 of 65 balls deemed catchable. Dang. I take every negative thing I had to say about him back.

The bills used to be the place where NFL careers died 15 years ago.. if you got cut from the bills your career was over Now guys we cut usually get a lot of interest Lewis and Ingram 100% would get another contract ... There are worse back half of roster guys

I don't know much about any attitude issues in NY or Cleveland. But, if that is the case, I can understand that as a concern. But, it also can depend on why he was disgruntled (if he was). Was he just frustrated about not winning (his teams went 25-68 over the last 4 years, 3 losing seasons, a 3-win season, and a 4-win season). QB play? Or was it due to lack of work ethic or issues with coaches or teammates, etc. So, if it was the former, well the Bills win a lot and as they say winning solves a lot of issues. And our locker room is so strong that it can handle a couple of guys that may not be perfect Bills DNA. But would they have brought him in if they thought his attitude, etc. was that bad? It's hard for me to think that Beane and McD would be ok with a guy who has bad work ethic, or attitude with coaches/teammates, etc. Maybe we'll find he's like Diggs (attitude-wise, not skill-wise), or maybe he'll turn things around in a better organization with a better QB. And I know it has been repeated by a number of posters, but I think it's tough to judge him too harshly on last year (2024). -His offensive coordinator was Ken Dorsey -Cleveland is a mess of a franchise -They were a 3-win team -He had 4 different quarterbacks in 2024 and none of them were good [Deshaun Watson (7 games), Joe Flacco (6 games), Dorian Thompson-Robinson (3 games), Bailey Zappe (1 game)]. I would expect it isn't the easiest thing for a receiver to adjust to 4 different QBs in one season. And 2023 wasn't any better from a QB standpoint. In 2023, 5 QBs started for the Browns: Watson (6 games), Flacco (5 games), Dorian T-R (3 games), P.J. Walker (2 games), and Jeff Drskell (1 game). So, again, not only were his QBs bad, but for 2 years it was a constant rotation of 6 different QBs. Alex Van Pelt was his offensive coordinator. How about 2022 with the Jets? Yep, once again, 4 different starting QBs. Wilson (9 games), Flacco (4 games), Mike White (4 games), Chris Steveler (1 game). How about 2021: Yep, 4 different QBs again. Wilson (13 games), Flacco (1 game), Mike White (3 games), Josh Johnson (did not have a start, but played in 3 games). Honestly, how many WRs are going to thrive in that situation? Your first 4 years in the league: 2 teams, 3 offensive coordinators, and 10 different QBs throwing the ball to you. It means in your first 68 games, your QB changed at least 14 different times (probably more if guys were say in and out with injuries or whatever). That's a different QB (at least) every 4.8 games on average. And that also leads me to player development. The Jets are obviously horrible at player development, as are the Browns. So, how much proper teaching/training did he actually get, etc. Plus, 3 of those 4 years he was learning a new offense, plus all of the QB turnover. Never having one guy to settle in with. The Bills happen to actually be very good at player development. So, maybe they can help him raise his game (in a more stable environment). And I don't expect him to go off and have some crazy year or anything (I mean, he's WR5, how much do you actually expect of your 5th receiver). But, I also think that it's crazy not to believe that having Josh (and only Josh) throwing him the ball instead of the myriad of ever-changing garbage QBs he's had won't improve his game (even if his overall numbers aren't big due to number of targets in our offense). To be fair here, I have not watched a lot of Elijah Moore's games, etc. So, the naysayers may be right. I just find it hard, like others, to think that a young player who has probably had very little positive development, was with horrible organizations, and had a carousel of bad QBs constantly rotating doesn't still have room to grow and improve. I think it's a bit unfair to write his career off after just 4 years, with the circumstances he's faced (even if some of it was self-inflicted---if say he forced his way out of NY or whatever). He may never be a star, but I'm not sure how some posters can be so positive that he can't continue to improve or become at least a viable 5th option/injury fill in. I mean, I don't love his career catch percentage (or the ypc last year)...but I'm optimistic with our staff and Josh throwing him the ball that he can continue to get better as a player...and maybe reach some of his potential. For the naysayers, do you really think that the circumstances of his early career might not have stunted or affected his growth/development at all? Do you really think he has no room for growth as just a 5th year guy (25 years old)? Do you really think that the Bills organization and having Josh as your QB might not make him a better player (considering where he is coming from)? I'm willing to give him a chance to show us that he's better than what he's shown so far and that he still has room for growth/improvement.

Weird. They actually realize that the importer (themselves) would pay their own tariffs so they simply exempt the tariffs from imports that they need most. It's almost as weird as the US exempting smart phone and computer imports made in China from tariffs because it would hurt the importer (us) the most. I like how we're seeing in real time how dumb starting a tariff war is.

Was listening to one bills live the other day and from the callers calling in about Moore, you'd have thunk we just traded for Diggs again in 2020😅. People were legit saying he's one of the best in the nfl. I'm all for this signing, and hopefully he becomes one of the best in the nfl, but man, people can be such Homers

I can see why Cleveland is doing this. I wish that Buffalo had done this more often during the drought era. As bleak as the QB room looks in Cleveland, it was much worse in some years here. Buffalo would rest their laurels on Tyler Thigpen or Jeff Tuel as competition for a shaky starter for years. When they finally did something similar to what Cleveland is doing in 2015 with EJ Manual, Tyrod Taylor and Matt Cassel, they ending up improving their situation from past year by discovering Tyrod who was the best that we had in awhile before Allen came around.